»Is there a god in our world?«

CaptPostMod wrote:

intell wrote: Then what is the 21st century version of it? This--youtube.com...--obviously!

UFOs? Aliens?

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According to some lame conspiracy theories I come from Aliens from the planet Sirius. (not the ones we discuss here --> matrix-explained.com... )

Let's wait untill 2011-2012

GhostTrax wrote:

Strix wrote: where did it come from? I have no idea, and neither do you. This whole god thing is so primitive it's scary, caveman stuff ... bleh.

well, I have one idea which is there is only one god

and it's not jew's god, god don't nationality as some members mentioned, and that is one humans problems
that they think everything must be human, and one note

jew's god? if you read the bible you will find that their god are afraid of somethings humans dont and is incapable of doing some other things, or at least that is how jews think god is.

if you realy want to free your mind free your self from the stupid thoughts (no offenese)

GhostTrax wrote:

Strix wrote: where did it come from? I have no idea, and neither do you. This whole god thing is so primitive it's scary, caveman stuff ... bleh.

well, I have one idea which is there is only one god

and it's not jew's god, god don't nationality as some members mentioned, and that is one humans problems
that they think everything must be human, and one note

jew's god? if you read the bible you will find that their god are afraid of somethings humans dont and is incapable of doing some other things, or at least that is how jews think god is.

if you realy want to free your mind free your self from the stupid thoughts (no offenese)

strix wrote:

jew's god? if you read the bible you will find that their god are afraid of somethings humans dont and is incapable of doing some other things, or at least that is how jews think god is.

Is that so?

intell wrote:

strix wrote: jew's god? if you read the bible you will find that their god are afraid of somethings humans dont and is incapable of doing some other things, or at least that is how jews think god is. Is that so?

yes its so

and I can provide you with passages from bible prove my idea

and second thing, just that jews think of god in some ways that dont mean that its true.

and you probably know that verses from bible were lost
when jews held catipves in Babylon, until Ezra bring it back
and if you read the Talmud you will know what I am talking about.

the Talmud says that if any gentile girl reach the age of 3 then, any jew can rape here. just think of that!

Strix wrote:

intell wrote: strix wrote: jew's god? if you read the bible you will find that their god are afraid of somethings humans dont and is incapable of doing some other things, or at least that is how jews think god is. Is that so? yes its so and I can provide you with passages from bible prove my idea

Since you call it your idea, please, by all means, do so.

well, this is the some of the proves that I promised to give

and just take a good look at those verses from the bible.

first there are alot of passages that talk in an inappropriate way, which only prove that this had been written by the rabbis not come from the holy spirit

The Shit!

Eze:4:12: And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
Eze:4:13: And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
Eze:4:14: Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
Eze:4:15: Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.

Shit again

Isa:36:12: But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Wow these guys are drinking their pee!

- the bad words that is not suitable to come from the divinty


- The Bad Words

Eze:23:1: The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze:23:2: Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:
Eze:23:3: And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
Eze:23:4: And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.
Eze:23:5: And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours,
Eze:23:6: Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.
Eze:23:7: Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.
Eze:23:8: Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her.
Eze:23:9: Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.
Eze:23:10: These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her daughters, and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; for they had executed judgment upon her.
Eze:23:11: And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.
Eze:23:12: She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men.
Eze:23:13: Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way,
Eze:23:14: And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,
Eze:23:15: Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:
Eze:23:16: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.
Eze:23:17: And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.
Eze:23:18: So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister.
Eze:23:19: Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.
Eze:23:20: For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Eze:23:21: Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.
Eze:23:22: There, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side;

- some adjective that is not appropriate for GOD almighty.

SO Does the lord whistle to the birds?

Isa:7:18: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria.


DO God Almighty get tired, come on for god sakes people

Ge:2:3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The lord regret? Come on there is difference between man and God

Ex:32:14: And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Again Jews try to make god look like human

Am:7:3: The LORD repented for this: It shall not be, saith the LORD.

Am:7:6: The LORD repented for this: This also shall not be, saith the Lord GOD.

So does Jews God need some American tanks?

J'g:1:19: And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

well, this is the some of the proves that I promised to give

and just take a good look at those verses from the bible.

first there are alot of passages that talk in an inappropriate way, which only prove that this had been written by the rabbis not come from the holy spirit

The Shit!

Eze:4:12: And thou shalt eat it as barley cakes, and thou shalt bake it with dung that cometh out of man, in their sight.
Eze:4:13: And the LORD said, Even thus shall the children of Israel eat their defiled bread among the Gentiles, whither I will drive them.
Eze:4:14: Then said I, Ah Lord GOD! behold, my soul hath not been polluted: for from my youth up even till now have I not eaten of that which dieth of itself, or is torn in pieces; neither came there abominable flesh into my mouth.
Eze:4:15: Then he said unto me, Lo, I have given thee cow's dung for man's dung, and thou shalt prepare thy bread therewith.

Shit again

Isa:36:12: But Rabshakeh said, Hath my master sent me to thy master and to thee to speak these words? hath he not sent me to the men that sit upon the wall, that they may eat their own dung, and drink their own piss with you?

Wow these guys are drinking their pee!

- the bad words that is not suitable to come from the divinty


- The Bad Words

Eze:23:1: The word of the LORD came again unto me, saying,
Eze:23:2: Son of man, there were two women, the daughters of one mother:
Eze:23:3: And they committed whoredoms in Egypt; they committed whoredoms in their youth: there were their breasts pressed, and there they bruised the teats of their virginity.
Eze:23:4: And the names of them were Aholah the elder, and Aholibah her sister: and they were mine, and they bare sons and daughters. Thus were their names; Samaria is Aholah, and Jerusalem Aholibah.
Eze:23:5: And Aholah played the harlot when she was mine; and she doted on her lovers, on the Assyrians her neighbours,
Eze:23:6: Which were clothed with blue, captains and rulers, all of them desirable young men, horsemen riding upon horses.
Eze:23:7: Thus she committed her whoredoms with them, with all them that were the chosen men of Assyria, and with all on whom she doted: with all their idols she defiled herself.
Eze:23:8: Neither left she her whoredoms brought from Egypt: for in her youth they lay with her, and they bruised the breasts of her virginity, and poured their whoredom upon her.
Eze:23:9: Wherefore I have delivered her into the hand of her lovers, into the hand of the Assyrians, upon whom she doted.
Eze:23:10: These discovered her nakedness: they took her sons and her daughters, and slew her with the sword: and she became famous among women; for they had executed judgment upon her.
Eze:23:11: And when her sister Aholibah saw this, she was more corrupt in her inordinate love than she, and in her whoredoms more than her sister in her whoredoms.
Eze:23:12: She doted upon the Assyrians her neighbours, captains and rulers clothed most gorgeously, horsemen riding upon horses, all of them desirable young men.
Eze:23:13: Then I saw that she was defiled, that they took both one way,
Eze:23:14: And that she increased her whoredoms: for when she saw men pourtrayed upon the wall, the images of the Chaldeans pourtrayed with vermilion,
Eze:23:15: Girded with girdles upon their loins, exceeding in dyed attire upon their heads, all of them princes to look to, after the manner of the Babylonians of Chaldea, the land of their nativity:
Eze:23:16: And as soon as she saw them with her eyes, she doted upon them, and sent messengers unto them into Chaldea.
Eze:23:17: And the Babylonians came to her into the bed of love, and they defiled her with their whoredom, and she was polluted with them, and her mind was alienated from them.
Eze:23:18: So she discovered her whoredoms, and discovered her nakedness: then my mind was alienated from her, like as my mind was alienated from her sister.
Eze:23:19: Yet she multiplied her whoredoms, in calling to remembrance the days of her youth, wherein she had played the harlot in the land of Egypt.
Eze:23:20: For she doted upon their paramours, whose flesh is as the flesh of asses, and whose issue is like the issue of horses.
Eze:23:21: Thus thou calledst to remembrance the lewdness of thy youth, in bruising thy teats by the Egyptians for the paps of thy youth.
Eze:23:22: There, O Aholibah, thus saith the Lord GOD; Behold, I will raise up thy lovers against thee, from whom thy mind is alienated, and I will bring them against thee on every side;

- some adjective that is not appropriate for GOD almighty.

SO Does the lord whistle to the birds?

Isa:7:18: And it shall come to pass in that day, that the LORD shall hiss for the fly that is in the uttermost part of the rivers of Egypt, and for the bee that is in the land of Assyria.


DO God Almighty get tired, come on for god sakes people

Ge:2:3: And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.

The lord regret? Come on there is difference between man and God

Ex:32:14: And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

Again Jews try to make god look like human

Am:7:3: The LORD repented for this: It shall not be, saith the LORD.

Am:7:6: The LORD repented for this: This also shall not be, saith the Lord GOD.

So does Jews God need some American tanks?

J'g:1:19: And the LORD was with Judah; and he drave out the inhabitants of the mountain; but could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

Again and again they try to make God look human

Ge:6:6: And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.
Ge:6:7: And the LORD said, I will destroy man whom I have created from the face of the earth; both man, and beast, and the creeping thing, and the fowls of the air; for it repenteth me that I have made them.

SO now the lord is checking out?

Ge:18:20: And the LORD said, Because the cry of Sodom and Gomorrah is great, and because their sin is very grievous;
Ge:18:21: I will go down now, and see whether they have done altogether according to the cry of it, which is come unto me; and if not, I will know.

The Lord fighting a human!

Ge:32:23: And he took them, and sent them over the brook, and sent over that he had.
Ge:32:24: And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day.
Ge:32:25: And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.
Ge:32:26: And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me.
Ge:32:27: And he said unto him, What is thy name? And he said, Jacob.
Ge:32:28: And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed.
Ge:32:29: And Jacob asked him, and said, Tell me, I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore is it that thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
Ge:32:30: And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved.
Ge:32:31: And as he passed over Penuel the sun rose upon him, and he halted upon his thigh.
Ge:32:32: Therefore the children of Israel eat not of the sinew which shrank, which is upon the hollow of the thigh, unto this day: because he touched the hollow of Jacob's thigh in the sinew that shrank.

Do the lord sleep and wake up like a human?

Psalms:78:59: When God heard this, he was wroth, and greatly abhorred Israel

Psalms:78:60: So that he forsook the tabernacle of Shiloh, the tent which he placed among men;
Psalms:78:61: And delivered his strength into captivity, and his glory into the enemy's hand.
Psalms:78:62: He gave his people over also unto the sword; and was wroth with his inheritance.
Psalms:78:63: The fire consumed their young men; and their maidens were not given to marriage.
Psalms:78:64: Their priests fell by the sword; and their widows made no lamentation.
Psalms:78:65: Then the Lord awaked as one out of sleep, and like a mighty man that shouteth by reason of wine.
Psalms:78:66: And he smote his enemies in the hinder parts: he put them to a perpetual reproach.
Psalms:78:67: Moreover he refused the tabernacle of Joseph, and chose not the tribe of Ephraim:
Psalms:78:68: But chose the tribe of Judah, the mount Zion which he loved.

So the lord shaving?

Isa:7:20: In the same day shall the Lord shave with a razor that is hired, namely, by them beyond the river, by the king of Assyria, the head, and the hair of the feet: and it shall also consume the beard.

The lord is afraid from humans?

Ge:11:1: And the whole earth was of one language, and of one speech.
Ge:11:2: And it came to pass, as they journeyed from the east, that they found a plain in the land of Shinar; and they dwelt there.
Ge:11:3: And they said one to another, Go to, let us make brick, and burn them throughly. And they had brick for stone, and slime had they for morter.
Ge:11:4: And they said, Go to, let us build us a city and a tower, whose top may reach unto heaven; and let us make us a name, lest we be scattered abroad upon the face of the whole earth.
Ge:11:5: And the LORD came down to see the city and the tower, which the children of men builded.
Ge:11:6: And the LORD said, Behold, the people is one, and they have all one language; and this they begin to do: and now nothing will be restrained from them, which they have imagined to do.
Ge:11:7: Go to, let us go down, and there confound their language, that they may not understand one another's speech.
Ge:11:8: So the LORD scattered them abroad from thence upon the face of all the earth: and they left off to build the city.
Ge:11:9: Therefore is the name of it called Babel; because the LORD did there confound the language of all the earth: and from thence did the LORD scatter them abroad upon the face of all the earth.

And what is this?

2Sa:22:8: Then the earth shook and trembled; the foundations of heaven moved and shook, because he was wroth.
2Sa:22:9: There went up a smoke out of his nostrils, and fire out of his mouth devoured: coals were kindled by it.
2Sa:22:10: He bowed the heavens also, and came down; and darkness was under his feet.
2Sa:22:11: And he rode upon a cherub, and did fly: and he was seen upon the wings of the wind.

Again the lord regrets

Jer:10:19: Woe is me for my hurt! my wound is grievous: but I said, Truly this is a grief, and I must bear it.

Regrets, regrets, regrets

Mic:7:1: Woe is me! for I am as when they have gathered the summer fruits, as the grapegleanings of the vintage: there is no cluster to eat: my soul desired the firstripe fruit.

- Then they try to make their lord to look like an animal!

Ho:5:12: Therefore will I be unto Ephraim as a moth, and to the house of Judah as rottenness.

Ho:13:7: Therefore I will be unto them as a lion: as a leopard by the way will I observe them:

Now lets look at the contrast

1-

Ex:33:20: And he said, Thou canst not see my face: for there shall no man see me, and live.

And then …..

Ex:24:9: Then went up Moses, and Aaron, Nadab, and Abihu, and seventy of the elders of Israel:
Ex:24:10: And they saw the God of Israel: and there was under his feet as it were a paved work of a sapphire stone, and as it were the body of heaven in his clearness.

Don’t steal

Le:19:13: Thou shalt not defraud thy neighbour, neither rob him: the wages of him that is hired shall not abide with thee all night until the morning.

But ….

Ex:3:22: But every woman shall borrow of her neighbour, and of her that sojourneth in her house, jewels of silver, and jewels of gold, and raiment: and ye shall put them upon your sons, and upon your daughters; and ye shall spoil the Egyptians.

The earth is flattened?

Eze:7:2: Also, thou son of man, thus saith the Lord GOD unto the land of Israel; An end, the end is come upon the four corners of the land.

Actaully I dont mean to offense anyone

but I just wanted to declare and explain to you how

the holy book had been manipulated by some people

and it's easy to know becuase you can guess whats it divine

from what is humane.

as you saw this words didnt come from GOD, it came from humans, and even some of the wors is not appropriate for GOD to say, not becuase GOD can't but becuase these is
humane acts and GOD isn't human

Hehehe. What you have just shown is that people who claim the bible as their holy book and their concepts and ideas do not conform to the book they haven't read deeply into. Not exactly news. Others have been saying this for some time now.

So who made certain words bad or good. People. You don't see a list of words to avoid in the bible. Some of the other things you mentioned shows that you were taking metaphors as literal. But it's good that you're examining things.

what DEEPLY are you talking about and dude

believe I know what I amsaying so instead of acting like

a tough guy I can debate by a civilized speech

the words in bible even if they aRe metaphores as you have mentioned i dont think its even appropriate for god to say
such words
I know that god is wise and these words had been put by jews then christians tried to interpret it by their own way

you know that jesus not a decendent from king david
and all of this things had been put by some people who
want to say that jesus is the messiah so enough is enough
dont try to hold the speech some meanings that it cant hold

Strix wrote:

the words in bible even if they aRe metaphores as you have mentioned i dont think its even appropriate for god to say such words

Why not?

strix wrote:

believe I know what I amsaying so instead of acting like a tough guy I can debate by a civilized speech

So...? What's your point?

strix wrote:

you know that jesus not a decendent from king david and all of this things had been put by some people who want to say that jesus is the messiah so enough is enough dont try to hold the speech some meanings that it cant hold

1. How do you arrive at this conclusion?

2. What actually changes if this conclusion is correct?

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