»revolutions ending«

i found that the ending was lame. i mean peace with the machines come on. i'd rather see man and machine duke it out with one victor. wasn't impressed by the fight between smith and neo. it felt a bit rushed. but they did spend a month filming it. didnt really look like that to me.

the film started of really good. had some really good scenes in it and started to go downhill in the last half hour or so.

my theory on the fight between neo and smith - in reloaded the architect says to neo that he is the sum of an unbalanced equation. in revolutions the oracle tells neo that smith is his negative, his opposite, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out. i believe that when smith took over neo, the equation became balanced and therefore there was no need to exist. if neo and smith have opposite values then the will have a null value when combined and shud no longer exist.

another theory of mine - throughout the movie they keep mentioning that without a purpose a program cannot exist. maybe smiths purpose was to rid of neo. and after fulfilling his purpose he was no longer required and ceased to exist.

but i think my first theory is better.

however i still think peace with machines was lame. overall its a great triology though. better than a lot of other movies out there.

for those of you who complain that it has no storyline or plot, u gotta think of it this way. reloaded did not finish. it continues onto revolutions. sets everything up for revolutions. revolutions is the action pakced finale. u gotta view both films as a whole if u want our story or plot or whatever. after watching revolutions it made the first 2 grow on me. love the films even more.

....but i think my first theory is better.

right on the money in my opnion!

This is more than just a trilogy--it spanned 9 short cartoons [the Animatrix] and the video game [Enter the Matrix]. It's a masterpiece.

I like both theories.

There is an old one, that since Smith took over Neo and Neo is plugged in the machines gain control over Smith.

Peace with the machines was coming a mile away. I predicted that on a different board (don't remember if I predicted it here as well). Think about it. Back in the Animatrix, the machines wanted peace. They wanted to be recognized by the humans and accepted into the culture. We...err...the humans were just too thickheaded to realize that they could help the human race out. So I think that the machines have been in control the point where the humans now want peace, and the machines wanted it from the beginning. Really...it only makes sense.

I suspect WB never intended a one-victor solution. It would have been too much like a zillion other films (say, Independence Day). Sure I would leave the theater feeling all pumped up about my superiority over "machines" (a dirty word for cybernetic life-forms), but do we really want that? Besides, in a one-victor scenario we would've been back to M1, with the 1% decimated for now, and the cycle restarted. Short of a Deux Ex Machina intervention, I just don't see how humans could have crushed the AIs. The best we can hope for is reconciliation, with Neo as the diplomat. As the Animatrix tells it, humans were in the wrong in the first place. I forget who said it here [edited: it was "Jesus"], but the idea that things would come full circle with humans offering an olive branch to the AI nation, and the AIs accepting it, eventually, has the right ring to it. Not that I want to drag on-going current events into this, but the Animatrix also makes it clear "01" is in southwestern Asia, aka the "Middle" East.

In fact, Neo would be more than a diplomat. He would be the first intelligence of human, bodily origin to have his consciousness translated into the AI's realm. He would still retain some human-ness but at the same time some part of him would be machine-like in its worldview. He will no longer have an organic body, which is dead, but like the Messiah of our time, he is expected to return. Certainly you can bet the Zion-ites believe he is not dead and will return one day, though they haven't a shred of evidence. It's a characteristic of being human.

sayid wrote:

I found that the ending was lame. i mean peace with the machines come on. i'd rather see man and machine duke it out with one victor.

Before seeing Revolutions, I was also wanting it to end in a one-side takes all manner.

However, after seeing Revolutions, I feel that having the peace was actually the best way to resolve it, at least for now. How long the peace lasts is a different story entirely. The Architect himself eluded to the possibility that the peace MAY be a temporary solution. In other words, a band-aid waiting for the right moment to fall off.

I believe the story is not over and that it will continue in some way, shape or form. Who knows, war might flare up again in the future and this time it could come down to one-side taking it all.

sayid wrote:

my theory on the fight between neo and smith - in reloaded the architect says to neo that he is the sum of an unbalanced equation. in revolutions the oracle tells neo that smith is his negative, his opposite, the result of the equation trying to balance itself out. i believe that when smith took over neo, the equation became balanced and therefore there was no need to exist. if neo and smith have opposite values then the will have a null value when combined and shud no longer exist.

I like this theory better as well, but it doesn't discount your other one.

sayid wrote:

Overall its a great triology though. better than a lot of other movies out there.

Like someone mentioned, The Animatrix DVD and the Enter The Matrix video game are both integral parts of the story of The Matrix. I haven't played Enter The Matix yet, but I have seen The Animatrix. If you haven't seen The Animatrix, I recommend that you do. I will play the game at some point in order to get the FULL M2 story.

sayid wrote:

for those of you who complain that it has no storyline or plot, u gotta think of it this way. reloaded did not finish. it continues onto revolutions. sets everything up for revolutions. revolutions is the action pakced finale. u gotta view both films as a whole if u want our story or plot or whatever.

I agree. It's like The Lord of the Rings, except that ALL three films of that trilogy are directly connected.

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