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Who is the Merovingian?

A previous One and Persephone is a previous Trinity
19%
 19%  [ 68 ]
A previous One
7%
 7%  [ 26 ]
A former agent
2%
 2%  [ 9 ]
The creator of the Matrix
1%
 1%  [ 5 ]
Nobody special. Just the husband of Persephone
3%
 3%  [ 12 ]
Have no idea
3%
 3%  [ 13 ]
Just an exile program using his knowledge to form an evil underground empire
61%
 61%  [ 214 ]
Total Votes : 347
 
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The 3rd choice and the last choice could be tied together. If he was an ex-agent he would have intimate knowledge of how the system worked. Therefor being able to gain much power within it. Possible reason he lost his grip on power was due to arrogance and oppulence. Arrogance drove his will to get what he wanted and oppulence blinded him to the dangers of losing it. The same could said for the last choice in the survey .. a rogue with the same ambitions.

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Hmmm ... yet another who claims to have ALL the answers.
This is a typical example of self righteous arrogance displayed by the likes of Merv. No need to even ask questions ? We can go to the go-to-guy here and get every answer we need. How convienient. How would you like to debate sometime on the concept of non-locality or the posiiblilty of super-luminal travel or how bout Rife or Tesla or Einstein being half right ?
How about our very REAL situation of being on the verge of WWIII because a bunch of guys like to have a lot of money ? Conspiracies you say ?
My favorite quote paraphrased ...
If one fact can come to light on a theory ... then it no longer is a theory ... it becomes a viable REALITY.
And btw ... I don't have a problem with you ... just your arrogance disturbs me mildly.
If YOU choose to head down this path ... it is your choice/decision. Claiming to know ALL and gloating about it will get you nowhere fast. This is known from experience and tales of it pervade history handed down by word of mouth. That is why Indiginious peoples used this form of recording history over the written word. Eye-witness testimony is STILL accepted in a court of law if I remember correctly.
Maybe they should have cast YOU for the role of Merv or maybe even Architect ! You certainly have the chutzpah for it. I think we all agree that nobody likes a know-it-all except you of course ... please excuse my insolence ... my lord.
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Some answers are very simple about the movie...the entire movie can almost be answered with a few key quotes...the problem is choice...some things never change, and some things do...it is what we are meant to do...know thy self...you weren't ready to be told, well who decided that...can't know the answers if you are not asking the right questions...this movie is about becoming aware and concious of all....Everything that has a begining has an end....

I have almost solved all mysteries of the movie...the person who wrote the intro to this website has no idea what he is talking about...if you have questions ask me and I swear I will have answers...

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Looking back at the most recent post here (Jun27/06) ... I came to realize that this forum seems to have lost it's interest in the subject.
Ah well ... such as it is with old an worn out theme. Always relegated to the dustbin of history and forgotten just as fast as the latest bad lie on FOX news.
It was fun while it lasted. Just like old news and true history is forgotten, so are timeless lessons.
Here we go agiain eh ? ... and to ALL ... a good night.

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And btw ... I don't have a problem with you ... just your arrogance disturbs me mildly.
If YOU choose to head down this path ... it is your choice/decision. Claiming to know ALL and gloating about it will get you nowhere fast. This is known from experience and tales of it pervade history handed down by word of mouth. That is why Indiginious peoples used this form of recording history over the written word. Eye-witness testimony is STILL accepted in a court of law if I remember correctly.


It's about time I bring this up. I notice many forum members have taken this stand. Someone says, "I have the answers" and almost everyone else takes offense and calls the person arrogant. Then the next step, usually, is to start criticising anything the person has to say from thence. The question is:
Why is this a necessary reflex action on the part of those of you who do it?

A follow-up question to this is:
Don't you think you limit yourself by not giving serious consideration to information unless it is presented a certain way?

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Have I missed something here ?
It wasn't some nebulous someone who said this ... it was YOU !
Not just SOMEONE said "I have all the answers" You said You have all the answers but didn't elaborate at all on just what those answers might be. This is a standard tactic called bait and switch. I am all ears if you care to share. But be warned, I am very good at detecting deceit these days since it pervades our very space with a stench that is very hard to miss.
In a way I am ashamed to admit I CAN think like THEM. Devious, deceitful, cunning, malicious etc. However, I take comfort in knowing that I can recognize these traits and evaluate my position as to where I stand on the issue ... and I stand for truth ONLY !
One lie becomes a can of worms and every worm in that can is just another lie. This becomes difficult to deal with when it comes to a can of worms.
Please enlighten us oh sage and give us the answers we have been waiting for to lead us to redemption.
Come on ... this is just a forum where we discuss ideas and there is clear communication back and forth between opposing views and ideas. Coming out and saying that I have all the answrs to the myriad of questions is ... well arrogant.
Sorry ... that's just me ... someone who doesn't lie down and play dead when given an ultimatum.
Does this answer your question about why many take offense to know it alls ?

It's about time I bring this up. I notice many forum members have taken this stand. Someone says, "I have the answers" and almost everyone else takes offense and calls the person arrogant. Then the next step, usually, is to start criticising anything the person has to say from thence. The question is:
Why is this a necessary reflex action on the part of those of you who do it?

A follow-up question to this is:
Don't you think you limit yourself by not giving serious consideration to information unless it is presented a certain way?[/quote]

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A follow-up question to this is:
Don't you think you limit yourself by not giving serious consideration to information unless it is presented a certain way?[/quote]

I usually start reading the information and if it sounds like it is biased in some way, I tend to be a little less attentive to it. Especially if it comes across as an ultimatum, a unilateral view of things. I like inquiry if it leads me to a better understanding. But I tend to take issue with outright statements like " I have ALL the answers to this mystery"
This is not an acceptable way to approach someone to consider an alternate view point.
A better way to do this might be to say ... hey ya know what I just thought of this ... what if ...
see ?
easy as cake ...

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First, find the post where I claimed to have all the answers. Check to see whether I said that or just quoted someone else who said that. Second consider revising the last two posts and maybe we can move forward Wink

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Okay... so here we go... I was watching all 3 of the matrix last night at about 3 in the morning(which is when the last one ended[and i had school in 4 hours]and just to say that i like the 3rd oner the most) And then before that i had watched the History Channel and it was the show Digging for the Truth. They we trying to find out if Jesus's blood line made it all the way to 2006. And they said that a woman Mary Magdline(idk if that is spelled right) was married to Jesus and theyu had a child. And they also were studing to see if Jesus' blood line somehow got intwined in the Merovingians blood line. So if you look at it biblicaly then yes the merovingian is god like in the blood line. And i dont knwo if anybody else said all of this cause im tired and about to fall asleep in study hall... anyways! i didnt get to see the whole thing so i dont know what happened.

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Just another exile. He isn't to special.
Scince he has few weaknessess he is not a new program as they are weaker.
w.g. the twins, they are early programs and have fewer weaknessess & can phase. The werfolf is also an early program.
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sokar wrote:

Merovingian comes from the first matrix version. That is why his minions are mythological characters (vampires, werewolves, etc.). I voted that he is just a powerfull program, but he might have been a previous agent (also from the first version) that was also deleted by the first One (like neo did to smith), with the difference that merovingian didn't went crazy and didn't aquire god-like powers (maybe the first One didn't have as much "Oneness" has neo does). My opinion comes from the historical fact that Merovingians claimed to be blood related to Jesus. Smith is code related Smile to Neo.

This post is all you really need. Well, the best answer I have. I believe that he was closer to the Oracle in a previous version of the matrix as opposed to an Agent. His version, obviously needed to be upgraded and I also believe it is mentioned that this version of the matrix crashed-out pretty badly.

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