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When Sati met Smith!  

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I looked upon the site and saw this text;
"Smith meets Sati and Seraph. What happens then?"
After watching the movie several times, I realized what happened.
The Oracle asks what Smith had done with Sati, and one of the Smiths in the room states "Cookies need love like everything does," meaning that he had turned her into a clone.
I am yet to find any evidence as to Seraph's whereabouts, but I believe you see him walking toward Sati who is on the floor after the Neo-Smith showdown. This could mean that he also was cloned into a Smith.

Hope I cleared some confusion Smile

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Holy shit, really?

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Ha ha, made sense to me. Wans't there a bit at the end about it? Let me consult my transcript... nope, sorry I must have been mistaken. But I'll say what I was gonna say. Sati survived. Perhaps if Smith had not used her she would have not been there after the re-boot (if it was a reboot, I'm not sure). Anyway, now Sati can exist, she has a purpose, to raise the sun.

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yeah, that was kind of obvious to me...the first time i only thought it was seraph, because at the end you see sati lying on the ground. but then i realised she had also been smithified too... 3Tooth Cool

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'Smithified'? excellent! i shall be using this term from now on! Whitelaugh

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ahhaahahha! lol. that's jsut what i say. and me, i'm obsessed w/ the matrix. i "matrixify" everythign i can. i made a shirt and hat i wore to revolutison. it's got all these cool pics, and i wrote in green glow in the dark fabric paint little captions of the pics like trin and the gun in M1 i wrote dodge this above it 3Tooth wooh! I LOVE THAT SMILEY!1 Cool

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Lol! When Reovolutions opened me and the wife had come straight from a party so i was in a dark suit, we walked around the corner of the cinema and everyone was wearing black leather coats of some sort....they spoted me and everyone kept calling me Smith! it was a cool night! Whitelaugh

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ahhh! thats funny, i was seriously considering wearing a trinity costume, but i decided not too for some reason and wore my t and hat with balck leather pants 3Tooth

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Another thing which makes it pretty obvious is because Smith has the power to change the weather after copying himself onto her.

"Like what I've done with the place?"

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This makes sense, as if the weather was influenced by a little girl, it would be mostly sunny (which it is), but if it were Smith it would be understandable to say it rains or the weather would be bad.

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Smith, toward the end of the movie had taken over everything. However, I think the weather was not yet in smith's control, but just the matrix's reactions to the smith (altho the lightning timing is perfect, but that's just movie magic for y'all!) However, when smith is defeated (or whatever you want to call his unbalancing end...), everyone who was smith returned back to their form... altho this is only shown with the oracle and sati, i think they chose not to show it because it would raise too many questions.... like how did the people continue their lives? (well the matrix has a never ending list of questions like when people "enter the matrix" as a baby or even when teh first people started in the matrix, did the machines Implant a past into their brains? good question...) so i think the machines just kind of did a mind-erasing thing to the humans during the "Agent Smith Era". he he... Although it would be funny if this happened if people started getting subconsious flashbacks of being smith! Oh the therapy the matrix would have to afford...

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At the end of M3, she asks the architect if those that want to will be set free. Does this mean that the Smiths think differently and some know about the 'real' world?
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At the end of M3, she asks the architect if those that want to will be set free. Does this mean that the Smiths think differently and some know about the 'real' world?
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I don't think this is referring to the Agent Smiths.... I think the Oracle and Architect are referring to the people who realize they are inside the Matrix... Just like the children she had in her apartment in M1.... She was just making sure that the architect would continue to let them be let out of the matrix.

Smith does know about the real world... that's why he went into Bane...

However those who were "taken over" by Smith and now returned to thier regular state (just a hypthesis) after smith was destroyed, should think exactly the same before they were taken by smith. i don' think being smith affected them in any way (as I said before, i think the machines would find a way to block this memory)

So, I think the Oracle is just referring to the way things were...

But there IS a possibility that people may be more aware of the matrix now (post-smith) than they did before.

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So do you think that all the Smiths are connected in some way? I am especially curious as to whether the Bane-Smith is conencted with the rest of the others. If this is so, then Smith has a connection with the machines in the real world much like Neo does.

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No, Neo IS the One. Sati is just a program that was made out of love. She's the only program that understands love other than Rama Kandra and Kamala. Revolutions is steeped in Hindu mythology. Neo is actually at the end of his 6th incarnation when he meets Sati. He represented the 6th incarnation of Vishnu, Parashurama, a reluctant warrior who waged war on the kshatriyas (Kings in India) who became too powerful. He meets Rama Kandra the 7th incarnation of Vishnu, who is the divinity of Christ. In the Ramayana, Rama, an incarnation of Vishnu, meets another incarnation of Vishnu, Parashurama. Rama recognizes Parashurama and he are the same (Neo says to Rama Kandra "I know you" this is what he really meant: they're the same). Rama takes away Parashurama's potency because Parashurama's incarnation is at an end. So Parashurama goes to meditate in the mountains (between heaven and sky), just like Neo is in Limbo and between the real world and the Matrix (heaven). In Revolutions, Rama Kandra sort of transfers his potency to Neo in that place, so Neo becomes the 7th incarnation of Vishnu, Christ.

As for Sati, in Hindu mythology, Brahma (the Architect in the Matrix) and the other gods were concerned that Shiva would take their followers into the jungle and live there because Shiva is an ascetic. He had no connections to love or anything like that. So they tried to tame him and make him feel love by getting Shiva to fall in love with Sati. Shiva did, and he married her (Smith is Shiva so he clones Sati and takes him for his wife sort of). The whole "cookies need love like everything else" points to how Sati's understanding of love couldn't tame Smith just like it couldn't tame Shiva. Shiva insulted Sati's father during a ceremony and Sati sacrificed herself by throwing herself on the funeral pyre. So Sati is the goddess of sacrifice. Also in Egyptian mythology Sati is the goddess that controls the skies, which is represented by how Sati can control the sun.

Revolutions is about the end of Kali Yuga, where ignorance is spread everywhere, and the Kalki avatar or the second coming of Christ or the Maitreya Buddha is supposed to come and vanquish the Antichrist (Smith, but he's also Shiva since he's the destroyer and Neo represents Vishnu since he's the protector). The Architect is shown isolated in his white chamer in Reloaded because in Kali Yuga man is furthest from God. He has no perception of God and indulges in sinful activities like the Merovingian (also, the devil and Ravana from the Ramayana). At the end, when Sati raises the sun, it's for Neo but it also represents the start of the Golden Age or Satya Yuga, where man is very connected with God (this is why you see the Architect walking in the Matrix).

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By the way, the Oracle represents Kali as well as the serpent in the story of Adam and Eve. Kali is the goddess of birth and death, the goddess that causes change.

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Sati is not turned to smith.You could clearly see it at the end Sati lying on the floor.I Smith says "Cookies need love" because
when smith meets them Sati and Seraph Smith says to Sati that "so you are the last exile".He would have said that because she still a small program he must have totally read his code.perhaps that could be the reason.

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Smith assimilates the entire Matrix. I would say that he just copies onto everyone. The Oracle, the Merovingian and of course, Sati. What else should this "Cookies need love" statement communicate?

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CHAITANYA wrote:

Sati is not turned to smith.You could clearly see it at the end Sati lying on the floor.

In the end you can also see the Oarcle lying in the crater. And we have clearly seen her being taken over by Smith.

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Smith assimilates the entire Matrix.

I agree. And in the end they are all freed from Smith by Neo.

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