»Why does the Spiky Machine God Explode?«

I've been obsessing over all the trailers I can get my hands on and while I was watching the "Help" trailer again it occured to me that I have yet to see a comment regarding the Machine God's Explosion, while Neo is standing infront of "him," blindfolded. Does anyone have any theories as to why this happens?

(For those of you who don't know what I'm talking about, play the "Help" trailer for 6 seconds or so.)

well it's not a fire explosion

it looks more electrical, kinda like when neo downed those sentinels

i don't know why he would explode.

why does everybody call the spiky machine the 'Machine God'????

it does not seem that machines would have a god, or appoint one to be a god, or a group of machine gods
the concept of god is varied

esc wrote:

why does everybody call the spiky machine the 'Machine God'????

We reffer to that machine as God since it is the only one that speaks to Neo and makes the decision to let/help Neo destroy Agent Smith. It seems to be in charge.

It may even not be an "explosion" which would cause in "termination" of that machine......Maybe A kind of resolution ?

Regards,

Atreides

Perhaps the 'Machine God' was created using nano-technology. Millions of microscopic machines when combine take the form of a bid bad ass sea urchin.

If the Matrix movies are supposed to take place hundreds of years from now it makes sense that AI machines would use nano-technology, similar to the T-1000 from the Terminator movies.

So that 'explosion' might just be a separation of thousands of smaller machines taking a new form.

What do you think about the 'nano-technology' angle?

It does seem llike the Baby-face is comprised of thousands of other machines. Maybe the face is their version of electro-congress, and they do decide by consensus.
The Nanotech angle is ALWAYS a possibility(even in THIS world).

From the day the tv-spots were released, I have been trying to tell people that it is the Architect's face in the spiky machine.

I know that my word is not credible in this forum, but think of all the wonderful discussions we could have based on facts, instead of fueling our pedofilic emotions by constantly refering to it as "Baby-face".

Well, I will never mention it again, but please think of how stupid you will feel after revolutions.

I too believe that the face belongs to the architect. Well, at least I don't believe it is a baby face. As far as the nanotech, that is a great theory. But, if you believe in the MiM theory, then it really doesn't matter. It could be that the explosion (headed towards Neo) represents something else entirely in the context of the Blue Matrix.

what face
i see no face.

why would a machine want to have the face of a human plastered on it?

i thought that was why the machines stopped producing humanoid type bodies and went more insectoid/aquatic looking models becuase they did not want to be associated with humans.

neo obscures the view of the front of that blowfish anyway.

the nano-tech thing is a good idea

the architect seems to be just a program inside the matrix and not an actual human that was placed inside the matrix like some theories nor to have a counterpart outside of the matrix

none of the other programs...oracle, seraph, smith, rogues etc. seem to have any machine counterparts in zion, but if they did would persephone have a picture of her face taped to her machine body?

unless it is halloween and they like to dress as humans in 01

esc wrote:

what face neo obscures the view of the front of that blowfish anyway.

Not in the original unreleased/uncomplete TV spots that circled the net...

@GSW

Take a closer look at the Ultra Trailer (the last trailer), you could certainly notice some changes in the hemisphere at the time it says:”And what if you fail”, which closely resembles facial expressions.

Regards

Atreides

Emp, you are as credible as anyone here.

Though we have not seen any real world counter-parts, I have to think they exist, unless the AI can just uplink into different "bodies" based on the functions they are about to perform. Based on Smith's speech in M1, about how he hates being placed in the stinking human zoo, I have to imagine that he used to "live" in the "real world" in some form or another.

The Spiky-Machine-Master may just be using a human face because it is communicating with a human, BUT he IS blind, so.....

(it does look like a baby to me, and not because of a pervese attraction to beautiful, tender, young human children thank you very much!)

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Emp, you are as credible as anyone here.

Nope. I am less credible. Trust me.

But the reason I know it is the architect is that I downloaded the unfinished TV-spots and freeze-framed and adjusted some colors.

By doing this, you see the Architects face really clear. You also see his beard trimmed in the same manner as in Reloaded.

I have shown my screencapture to everyone I know that has seen Reloaded, and they always blurt "That's The Architect!!!" long before I even tell them about you weirdos thinking it's a baby-face.

I bet the WB's will change it to a baby face just to make me look bad...

emp wrote:

I have shown my screencapture to everyone I know that has seen Reloaded, and they always blurt "That's The Architect!!!" long before I even tell them about you weirdos thinking it's a baby-face.

Then why not show it to us and settle this thing once and for all.

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I bet the WB's will change it to a baby face just to make me look bad...

If the Wachowski's have a say, they'll change it to the thing that the least number of people see.

So since this forum seems to be split between Architect and Baby, they'll probably pick "A Bunny Face" or "Peewee Herman".

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Then why not show it to us and settle this thing once and for all.

Ok, I was just kidding. It's a baby face.

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If the Wachowski's have a say, they'll change it to the thing that the least number of people see. So since this forum seems to be split between Architect and Baby, they'll probably pick "A Bunny Face" or "Peewee Herman".

I hope they'll use the bunny suit head from Donnie Darko.

Or to mock us, it will look like Patrick Swaze.
Or Adam Sandler.
Just so we know we got what was coming to us.

Ogami Itto wrote:

Or to mock us, it will look like Patrick Swaze. Or Adam Sandler. Just so we know we got what was coming to us.

I bet they'll have every ending ever mentioned in a forum as a never ending nightmare-wakeup cycle.

Just like that Metacortex ARG... It was just a hoax that show how we provide our own psychedelic realities based on our consumer-entertained lifestyle.

They just plant a seed and see it grow.

emp wrote:

instead of fueling our pedofilic emotions by constantly refering to it as "Baby-face".

OK, let's call it the baby-god. Happy now?



Or maybe the "Baby god who exists without a Mother and wears a spikey crown"

Happy, now?

It just occured to me WHY Neo went all the way to meet the Babyface-Architect-God-Spiky-Machine-Blowfish-Thingy . At the end of Reloaded, Roland said that the Machines targeted the Hard Lines leading in and out of Zion. This therefore severed all their connections to the Matrix so that the Zionites would be unable to revisit. Since the ships connected wirelessly to the Matrix, through Zion, they too would be unable to connect to the Matrix. So, Neo would only be able to connect to the Matrix again by asking permission from Blowfish.

That Machine God is actually the mAchine intelligence/source. The oracle was referring to going there in reloaded, not the architect. Remember seeing NEO walk on elctrical type lines with a bright light in front of him? He makes some deal and it ends the sentinals from attacking ZION. Ending the war maybe while he fights smith to preserve both races? Appears the prophecy is true. The Oracle said the only way to get to the future is together.

wb already said in an article that the macine god is deus ex machina which translates to god of the machines... this isnt even a worth topic.. go to killermovies matrix forum to really learn stuff

They probably call him Machine God because his name in the movie is Deus Ex Machina...

The literal translation of Deus ex Machina is "God from Machine", not "God of Machines". The Deus ex Machina is a well known literary device first implemented (as far as we know) in Greek tragedy. It is an ending (or a resolution) in which something impossible, or totally ridiculous happens to resolve a story or situation that would appear to have no possible 'happy' or even satisfactory ending. Check it out, you can find definitions of it anywhere (OED, any book on Greek or Roman theatre, even the computer game 'Deus Ex' which, by the way, deals extensively with nanotechnology.

Just thought I'd add that fuel to this fire. The point is that he/it is not a god of the machines, but an uber-something who's purpose is to cause the story to be resolved happily (or 'well', as the greeks would say, which is not necessarily happily). That is, of course, assuming that the Wachowski brothers read the same meaning from it as most theoreticians do.

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Deus ex Machina In some ancient Greek drama, an apparently insoluble crisis was solved by the intervention of a god, often brought on stage by an elaborate piece of equipment. This "god from the machine" was literally a deus ex machina. Few modern works feature deities suspended by wires from the ceiling, but the term deus ex machina is still used for cases where an author uses some improbable (and often clumsy) plot device to work his or her way out of a difficult situation. When the cavalry comes charging over the hill or when the impoverished hero is relieved by an unexpected inheritance, it's often called a deus ex machina.

From newark.rutgers.edu...