»Why is it precisely midnight?«

You have done a terrific job of logging every question, detail, and mystery of the two films. One issue I've not seen mentioned, and is tied to the concept of time and shifting timelines is Neo's vision that launches Reloaded.

First, let's skip ahead to the end. At *exactly* midnight, the power plant is blown off, and seconds later Neo et al enter the first door. As they're walking in, Trinity tries to get Link to call them off (after seeing Soren et al dead at the backup plant). This occurs just *after* midnight.

However, go back to the beginning. Roll the title, then 1 minute + of code that forms a clock, that is transformed into the time card punch clock in the backup plant. It turns over to midnight *seconds* before Trinity arrives on Motorcycle. It's clear that only seconds pass (in fact, Bill Pope - in his cameo as the lazy security guard - gets blown up with the motorcycle impact).

Given the Brothers attention to detail, why be so specific about Trinity arriving at precisely midnight (ok..a couple seconds afterwards) when she arrived there several minutes after midnight in reality (at the end, according to the well documented timeline).

Thoughts?

You have made a very interesting observation. Cool.

ericbozin wrote:

Given the Brothers attention to detail, why be so specific about Trinity arriving at precisely midnight (ok..a couple seconds afterwards) when she arrived there several minutes after midnight in reality

This is true, and the only explanation I have is, that the 1st scene was just Neo's dream.

ericbozin wrote:

(ok..a couple seconds afterwards) when she arrived there several minutes after midnight in reality (at the end, according to the well documented timeline).

She does not arrie there past midnight, but before. The reason the "arrives there" is exactly because she is going to hack the power plant, which happens right before midnight.

In the beginning, when she says "Im in", it is BEFORE midnight. After the special effect that she becomes code and the code becomes her jumping from the build, THAT is after midnight, and she has already hacked the powerplant, and is exactly the moment neo is talking to the architect.

As it is almost certain that this has a meaning, in the movie there is an explanation as to why go at midnight.

Morpheus: At midnight, there's a shift change in the security of both buildings. At midnight, we will strike.

There is something that is even more interesting about all this, and it is this:

Keymaker: Once the door is unprotected, the connection will be severed. But another connection must first be made.

Ghost: How long will that take?

Keymaker: Exactly 314 seconds.

Soren: Just over 5 minutes.

Keymaker: That is the length and breadth of the window. Only The One can open the door, and only during that window can the door be opened.

Niobe: How do you know all this?

Keymaker: I know because I must know. It's my purpose. It's the reason I'm here. Same reason we're all here.

Meaning anyone?

I think you misunderstood the problem:

The security guards checkout exactly at midnight. That is OK.

But at midnight Trinity is still in the Neb. Whereas in Neo's dream she arrives a few seconds later on her bike.

Why didn't the keymaker just say five minutes and 14 seconds?

Here is a thaught !

314 seconds may be used for this purpose... I am no religous freak, but I know what John 3:14 is..
And Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up.

That whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have eternal life.

For god so loved the world that he gave his only begotten son, that whosoever believeth in him should not perish but have everlasting life.


This is a popular reading from th ebible which is the only reason I know it, but, If the Architect is the Father and the Oracle the mother, perhaps Neo is their son? An so long as Trinity believes he is the One, she will be saved from death.


Heh, after reading what I typed it sounds crazy to me, I guess I'll post it anyway for your amusement!

Thanks for your post dreamoutloud. It has been useful. I also found something that might give us a clue as to if Zion is a Matrix within a Matrix.

Quote:

Keymaker: There's a building. Inside this building there's a level where no elevator can go, and no stair can reach. This level is filled with doors. These doors lead to many places, hidden places, but one door is special. One door leads to the Source. This building is protected by a very secure system. Every alarm triggers the bomb.

The reference to a level that no elevator can go to and no stair can reach it, made me think about some of the buildings in my country. There are many buildings here that don't have a 13th level, perhaps mostly because of superstition. What happens is that they name the levels the way they are supposed to, but instead of naming the 13th level "13", they name it "14". When you go on the elevator, you see buttons for levels 1 through 12, then from level 14 to whatever the highest level is, skipping level 13. I haven't noticed if they do this in another countries. Maybe you can tell me. But the fact is, it appears as if no elevator or stair could reach level 13.

Could this be a referece to the movie "The Thirteenth Floor"?

In this movie we see **spoiler deleted by the admin **

oscargabrielp wrote:

The reference to a level that no elevator can go to and no stair can reach it, made me think about some of the buildings in my country.

Perhaps it is a reference to the Thirteenth Floor, or perhaps it is a reference to Heaven, the Architect of course being God.

As for the whole 14th floor being the 13th.... I know that in Canada they also don't have a floor numbered 13.

Finally, there is another time where the clock shows twelve, but it is noon, not midnight. This is when Neo et all go to see the Merovingian. In fact, I don't recall ever seeing another time displayed in M2 other than these two instances. hmmm...... interesting. In M1 however, we see 9 am shown on an alarm clock when Neo wakes up late for work, so I don't think the time issue is really important.

dreamoutloud wrote:

314 seconds may be used for this purpose... I am no religous freak, but I know what John 3:14 is.. And Moses lifted up the serpent in the wilderness, even so must the son of man be lifted up.

There is another "profecy" related to 314 called "PI number" that is much more reliable to represent a ciclying stuff (the reloading matrix process). This "profecy" exists in every circle , and not only in a human-wrote book

Strav wrote:

There is another "profecy" related to 314 called "PI number"...

Apropos, "PI number" is only number which don’t calculate so far! It is number with uncalculated remainder.

Architect: Your life is the sum of a remainder of an unbalanced equation inherent to the programming of the Matrix.

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This may sound stupid, but I think it makes sense: that clock in the security building is about one minute late. If you notice, when you see the clock turn 11:59, it immediately pans to Niobe's watch and it is 12:00 (the bomb blows up about 2 seconds later also, meaning it is 12:00). If this were true, everything would make sense, though I don't know why the security clock would be a minute late...