»Neo's bullet stopping powers, and Smith's memory«

I'm new, so I don't know if these issues have been covered already or are kinda stupid, but thank goodness for a site like this.

First of all, If Neo can stop bullets in midair which are program type things in the matrix, why is it that he can not stop programs like the agents or the "virus" agent Smith? (possibly to tough to control?)

Secondly, if there were six matrixes (or however many) before, wouldn't that mean that there would be a new Agent Smith in his normal "non-viral" form for each matrix? But if that is so, why, if I remember correctly, did the Agent Smiths in Reloaded after their big fight scene with Neo say something like; "That went as expected." (and another Smith says something like) - "Not quite."

Doesn't that mean that Agent Smith remembers the previous Neo's from the old matrixes? But shouldn't Smith be reprogrammed for each new matrix?
*Feewf* I hope someone can explain this to me or tell me if I am getting things mixed up. Thank you very much!

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First of all, If Neo can stop bullets in midair which are program type things in the matrix, why is it that he can not stop programs like the agents or the "virus" agent Smith? (possibly to tough to control?)

Good differentiation of situations... my guess has to do with the types of programs in questions. I would imagine the programs controlling the bullets and other inaminate objects are simpler and not as deeply embedded into the Matrix. It's sort of like trying to shut down programs in Unix. Some programs only require a "kill" command and they're dead. Others require special instructions like "signal 15" in conjunction with the kill command. Also, if the issuer of the shutdown command doesn't direct access to the program in question, e.i.: if "Agent.exe" was initiated by root or the administrator account, then users without sufficient permissions must use other methods to take control of these programs. In that case, the program must be shutdown indirectly or by use of its interface (File->Quit). The analogy to Agents or humanlike programs for "File->Quit" is inflict enough physical damage to inflict a fatal injury. The reconstitution of Agents is sort of like Pop-Up windows that spawn when you go to some webwites. They cannot be terminated without shutting down the browser.

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Secondly, if there were six matrixes (or however many) before, wouldn't that mean that there would be a new Agent Smith in his normal "non-viral" form for each matrix? But if that is so, why, if I remember correctly, did the Agent Smiths in Reloaded after their big fight scene with Neo say something like; "That went as expected." (and another Smith says something like) - "Not quite."

"Not quite" is the key. I interpretted the Architect's explaination to mean the changes between the earlier versions were a lot more drastic than the differences between later versions. With each improvement, each version becomes closer to optimal, and theoretically each version will require fewer changes than the last.
An important question is: during which version was the Smith Agent type originally introduced?

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Doesn't that mean that Agent Smith remembers the previous Neo's from the old matrixes? But shouldn't Smith be reprogrammed for each new matrix?

I'm sure Smith and other programs which exist in more than one version recieve updates and upgrades. As far as which memories as retained and which are removed... I don't know, depends on the Architect's specifications.

These are my guesses. Just opinions, so please treat them accordingly.

My theory about the matrix is that each of the 5 other Matrices were period-oriented. This version is 1999, the supposed height of human development. The others could have been the Roman era, the Victorian era, The Medieval era, etc. This might also explain the existence of the Merovingian. That being said, each regeneration of the Matrix would involve the generation of Agents to fit the era. Each time the matrix is "reloaded" the Agents are upgraded to represent the advancements of human civilization. This is the same matrix that Smith first met Neo in, therefore, the upgrade to the Smith program hasn't been made. Not only that, but Smith is now an exile, he was destroyed in the first and instead of going to the source for upgrades he chose to disobey and stay in the matrix in his viral form. I hope that helped but it's prob. just a bunch of mumbo-jumbo.

Thank you everyone! But I guess I have some new questions that were kind of touched upon in the answers. For the first response; if Agent Smith was upgraded each time for each Matrix, and he could remember the fight with Neo and comment that it went as expected because of his memory of the previous same fights in the previous Matrixes, does this mean the Architect, or whomever, has control over the "Virus" Smith at the end of each Matrix to upgrade him and remove his virus replicating powers? (I think) This would make total sense, except for Smith not being part of the Matrix anymore because of his virus "rouge" state of being. Does whoever really controlling the Matrix still have power over this rouge Smith in each Matrix? If so, I think this theory would probably be the one used in the movies. For the second response, this could make total sense also but how, if with each new era of Matrix, could Agent Smith remember the previous fights with those previous Neos?

I really appreciate both responses, but I guess it comes down to this; the first tells how Smith could remember the fights, but how did Smith become upgraded if he is out of the control of the Matrix? And the Second tells how Smith could be in his old "Agent" form in the beginning of each Matrix,( because of brand new made Agent Smiths right?) but how could he remember the fight with the Neos?

Correct me if I'm wrong but would this solve the problem?; was I wrong in the first place thinking that the Smiths were talking about the fight when they said "that went as expected" ( assuming they were talking about how the fight ended just like in the previous Matrixes.) Because if they were not, then that would mean this is the first time Smith chose to be a rouge program and recieved his replicating powers. (Which I origninally thought happened until I remembered the line of "that went as expected".)

Maybe I read your responses wrong, or I'm going nuts, or I'm thinking about this way too much, but if someone can elaborate or explain more I'd highly appreciate it because my brain is starting to hurt thinking about it, oh and thanks for taking the time to read this far!

The bullet program is pretty simplistic. I mean, all the computer has to do is calculate mass X acceleration of the bullet to determine the force with which the bullet would strike. This is a very simple calculation for a computer so it requires a very simple program, hence, Neo can easily control it. People and their connection to the Matrix and Agents or other programs are much more complicated because they are programmed for more than once scenario (the bullets are only programmed to be shot, that is all they do.) That is why I belive that Neo can stop bullets and not control Agents or such in the Matrix.


By the way, Pluarl for matrix is matricies not matrixes. Thanks and keep posting.

The plural of matrix is matrices. And just for fun:
matricary - related to the matrix
matriculent - full of matrices, or matrix-related stuff
matrician - someone from the matrix

the arcitect expected the one to keep coming,doin the same stuff then dying but he found love so it was different...now it is THE ONE

Vlad wrote:

The plural of matrix is matrices. And just for fun: matricary - related to the matrix matriculent - full of matrices, or matrix-related stuff matrician - someone from the matrix

This is OK, but I think "Matrixes" is OK, too. The same as with "virii" and "viruses"?