»Insight from whatisthematrix.com«

well, some may consider it spoilers, but nothing about the plot is given away if you've seen the trailers. visit whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com...

basically you learn that an major part of Rev. is discovering what neo's power is from. Quote from site:
Reeves sees Neo as "a lightning rod, a searcher and a witness. In acting out his quest, Neo makes himself available as a conduit for a very powerful energy force, which translates into these extraordinary powers."

there's some other interesting junk in there. has anyone seen it? has it changed what you think will happen in M3?

Yes, yes - very good information there. That answers several of the questions that have been floating around this forum for a while.

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That answers several of the questions that have been floating around this forum for a while.

Like what? Cannot see anything new except the statement, that
a) Smith has grown beyond the machine's control and is a threat now.
b) Neo stopped the sentinels and it was not the Hammer that flew by.

Both statements are interesting, but nothing really new.

I must confess a bit of exasperation, KnnKnn, because so much information is bluntly revealed at whatisthematrix.com that I cannot believe you actually read it all before so curtly challenging my previous statement as "nothing new" (note, however, that I never indicated that anything "new" was revealed, rather that there were answers). The first two links on whatisthematrix.com, the links titled "Matrix Revolutions" and "The Final Chapter" contain answers to questions that are, indeed, floating around on this site.

I had hoped that most would be able to glean the answers from the text, but since that's not the case, here is a smattering of what I found

{WARNING: SOME MAY CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING INFORMATION TO BE SPOILERS)

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At the cliffhanger conclusion of The Matrix Reloaded, Neo lies in a comatose state aboard the rebel hovercraft Mjolnir after using his powers to terminate several attacking Sentinels – an inexplicable feat given that he was not jacked into the Matrix during the deadly confrontation.

I recall having read questions about whether Neo actually stopped the sentinels, or whether an incredibly-timed EMP actually stopped them, or what have you. Now, we have an "answer" because, as the text I quoted says, Neo lies comatose after "using his powers to terminate several attacking Sentinels."

Ergo, I believe that is classified as an "answer."

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At the stunning conclusion of The Matrix Reloaded, Neo (KEANU REEVES) took another step forward in the quest for truth that began with his journey into the real world at the outset of The Matrix – but that transformation has left him drained of his power, adrift in a no man’s land between the Matrix and the Machine World.

This would seem to be a direct "answer" to why Neo fell into a coma, would it not?

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While Trinity (CARRIE-ANNE MOSS) holds vigil over Neo’s comatose body, Morpheus (LAURENCE FISHBURNE) grapples with the revelation that the One in which he has invested a life’s worth of faith is merely another system of control invented by the architects of the Matrix.

This somewhat clarifies the nature of The One, does it not? Note that I do not say "completely" clarifies, but rather, "somewhat." Still, I think this qualifies as an "answer" because it deals directly with whether or not the Architect was lying. It would appear, from this text, that he was not.

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With the aid of Niobe (JADA PINKETT SMITH), Neo and Trinity choose to travel farther than any human has ever dared to go – a treacherous journey above ground, across the scorched surface of the earth and into the heart of the menacing Machine City. In this vast mechanized metropolis, Neo comes face to face with the ultimate power in the Machine world – the Deus Ex Machina – and strikes a bargain that is the only hope for a dying world.

And now we know what the "spiky machine god" is. I believe this qualifies as an "answer." Similarly, we also now know what it is - the "ultimate power in the Machine world."

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In Revolutions, Neo learns the truth behind the source of his powers and why he is able to use them in the real world. Reeves sees Neo as “a lightning rod, a searcher and a witness. In acting out his quest, Neo makes himself available as a conduit for a very powerful energy force, which translates into these extraordinary powers.”

I think this quote speaks for itself. At the very least, it would seem to suggest a genesis for the scene showing Neo being surrounded/penetrated by orange streams of energy, etc. Hence, more "answers."

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While Neo’s powers have grown exponentially, so too have those of the rapacious Agent Smith – to the point that he has become a bigger threat to the Machine world that created him than the citizens of Zion who are fighting for survival against the Machine army. Neo realizes that in order to save both Zion and the Machine world from total destruction by Smith, he will have to go farther than he ever imagined.

This would seem to suggest that Smith is NOT a planned outcome in the Matrix, as some have suggested. Therefore, I would also qualify this as an "answer" to a question as well.

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Meanwhile, Agent Smith’s appetite for destruction grows more ravenous as he becomes increasingly more powerful. “In The Matrix, Smith starts off as a very rigid character with a very strong, defined mission that he has to accomplish,” Hugo Weaving describes. “During that journey, he starts to feel human feelings. He starts to feel anger and jealousy. He starts to smell things and he starts to have a hint of what it’s like to have humanity inside him. And he hates that. He sees it as a weakness. In Reloaded, he’s accepted these powerful feelings more and more and he starts to relish them. His ego has expanded and he’s quite literally been liberated. In Revolutions, his ego runs rampant – he has evolved from wanting to be free of the Matrix to trying to take over the world.”

I do believe this would be an "answer" regarding Smith's motivation.

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Trainman, who controls all travel between the Matrix and the Machine world

This would seem to be an "answer" about the nature of the Trainman.

Forgive me if I'm a bit perturbed at your comment, Knnknn, but I thought much of this was pretty clear and it stung a bit to be dismissed thusly.

BTW - in case it's not obvious to some, I am the "guest" who posted above. For reasons unknown, I am sometimes logged out without my knowing it, so sometimes my posts are set to "guest."

Ergo, some of mjolnir's answers you will understand and some of them you will not.

OK, I take everything back and claim the opposite.

mjolnir wrote:

I must confess a bit of exasperation, KnnKnn,

You have the right to, because after reviewing my statement it is clearly unfair.

The point is however whether to trust the Warner Bros statements or not. I don't know if the WachoBrothers would subscribe to everything that's written there.

mjolnir wrote:

whether an incredibly-timed EMP actually stopped them

This was always considered by many as an incredibly wrong theory thus pretty obviously wrong.

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: drained of his power, adrift in a no man’s land between the Matrix and the Machine World. This would seem to be a direct "answer" to why Neo fell into a coma, would it not?

No, "drained of his power" = powerless in a coma.
Now take the statement "in a no man’s land between the Matrix and the Machine World". These are exactly the kinds of terms I have to doubt. "No man's land"? Is that how the Wachowskis would describe it? Do they mean Mobile Ave? How could you describe this trainstation as "no man's land"?

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: the One in which he has invested a life’s worth of faith is merely another system of control invented by the architects of the Matrix. This somewhat clarifies the nature of The One, does it not?

The same problem. Who writes this stuff? Is the One something the Architect has invented? Would you say it like this? Not me. This seems to be like a review of somebody involved, but not canon.

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: Neo comes face to face with the ultimate power in the Machine world – the Deus Ex Machina – and strikes a bargain that is the only hope for a dying world. And now we know what the "spiky machine god" is.

How would it differ from what we knew until now? Everybody since the beginning has been talking about the "machine god". And since Neo makes the deal with him, it's pretty clear that he has some sort of "administrative powers".

mjolnir wrote:

we also now know what it is - the "ultimate power in the Machine world."

Could be again a reviewer's blah.

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: Reeves sees Neo as "a lightning rod, a searcher and a witness. In acting out his quest, Neo makes himself available as a conduit for a very powerful energy force, which translates into these extraordinary powers." I think this quote speaks for itself.

Now this is how Reeves sees it. Thus it could be a statement like "Jazz is the source of life".

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: While Neo’s powers have grown exponentially, so too have those of the rapacious Agent Smith – to the point that he has become a bigger threat to the Machine world This would seem to suggest that Smith is NOT a planned outcome in the Matrix, as some have suggested.

And exacly about this statement was I writing. Again, interesting, but it doesn't tell us, when Smith becomes this threat. Already in Reloaded? Or is Smith in Reloaded still under control and becomes a threat in Revolutions?

mjolnir wrote:

Quote: Trainman, who controls all travel between the Matrix and the Machine world This would seem to be an "answer" about the nature of the Trainman.

Not really.
*Neo wakes up in Mobile Ave
*Oracle says he is captured between the machine world and the matrix
*trains come and go
*Trainman is either a bum or the leader of the station
*Trainman knows about Zion, thus is old or powerful or knowing
The above data alone tell us that most probably the trainman "controlls the travel" between matrix and machine city.
However, yes, this is some kind of new info...

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Quote: Reeves sees Neo as "a lightning rod, a searcher and a witness. In acting out his quest, Neo makes himself available as a conduit for a very powerful energy force, which translates into these extraordinary powers." I think this quote speaks for itself. Now this is how Reeves sees it. Thus it could be a statement like "Jazz is the source of life".

I would also have to point out that I beleive Keanu Reeves might have thought this movie was about a Chicken until Lawrence Fishburne explained it to him. So, I would really take what he says with a grain of salt. I think we might find that the Wach. Siblings gave Reeves Matrix 1,2,and 3 cliff notes so he could follow along.

You're getting hung up on "new" information, Knnknn, when I never indicated that any of the information was "new." Rather, that it answered some questions floating around this site.

For example, some have wondered, "what is that spiky machine thing?" Well, we now have a name for it.

Some have wondered very recently about whether Neo actually stopped the Sentinels. Well, we seem to have an answer to that, too.

Splitting hairs about what is "new" or not is really pointless. I'd have thought you would have been excited to get some sort of confirmation about some information from as "official" a source as you're likely to get prior to seeing the movie.

I would just like to point out something:
After almost 900 posts...I would start to look for "NEW" information too...
Give knnknn a break...I think he is doing a good job.
Post about 830 more times and then come back and talk to him...I am sure you will feel the same way.

mjolnir wrote:

For example, some have wondered, "what is that spiky machine thing?" Well, we now have a name for it.

No we don't. Deus ex machina is just descriptive. If they would say: "The machine god is made out of thousands of sentinels who talk to Neo with the face of the Architect when he was a baby"... now THIS is new info.

Some have wondered very recently about whether Neo actually stopped the Sentinels. Well, we seem to have an answer to that, too.

mjolnir wrote:

would have been excited to get some sort of confirmation about some information from as "official" a source as you're likely to get prior to seeing the movie.

OK, I admit, I was too harsh, and I have added some info of it to my site. But the info is still overhyped.

mazin wrote:

Give knnknn a break...I think he is doing a good job.

Thank you so much!

er...how long did it take ya to do all those quotes?