»Did the Wachowskis really direct the major %age of 2 and 3?«

Watch Bound and the original Matrix. Then watch the sequels. The directing styles are totally(and quite obviously) different, except for a few scenes in the sequels(for example, the Oracle meeting, the car chase, the talk with the Merovingian(in Reloaded.)

Their style and influence seems to be incredibly minor in the sequels. It doesn't feel like the Wachowskis directed the movie. Go to IMDB and look at the crew list for Reloaded and Revolutions. Look at the number of assistant directors! Who on Earth -needs- that many?

I mean, honestly, the script doesn't flow, the scenes don't flow, there's a bunch of boring, ultra cheesy soap opera cliche moments. I don't think the Wachowskis had a FINGER in the Zion sequences. They have none of their coolness, pacing, or direction(in general.) There's not much energy in this movie. Just for a quick refresh, look at everyone's faces in the first movie. Their eyes in particular. They're all wide eyed and(presumably and understandly so if true) excited. Now look at how everyone acts and looks in the sequels. They look tired. Bored, perhaps. Their eyes are always droopy. If you notice, throughout many of the scenes that feel like they were directed by the Wachowskis that did Bound and MX1, the actors have that same wide-eyed look from the first movie. Look at Morpheus when he is fighting the Agent on the Truck. Its really the only moment where he truly feels like the same Morpheus from MX1, not the stereo-typed, "slogging through for money" Morpheus.

Interestingly enough, Hugo Weaving said he only got on the movie cause he wanted his own action figure, and that in the behind-the-scenes on the Reloaded DVD, all the actors said they joined without looking at the script.
Oh yeah, and one of the best characters from MX1(tank) left. I heard two rumors about that: 1, he grabbed Joel Silver's lunch from the cast and crew fridge, and 2, he wanted more money than he got in the first movie(I would've paid him.)

And of course, it definitely doesn't help that Gloria Foster died from diabetes(where the Hell was her tribute in the Ultimate Collection?)

The Wachowskis haven't EVER done any interviews for the sequels. If I remember correctly, Andy once said that they didn't feel it was their right to interview for something that wasn't theirs. I heard they even signed a contract not to do any interviews. Ever notice it is always Joel Silver talking about the sequels? The Wachowskis aren't even in the ultimate collection talking about the sequels. They did write a letter, but that's it.

Someone with connections has gotta know the answer to this. Post anonymously if you can(if you need to.) if you know the answer to this question.

Was there a falling out? Did Larry's sex change have something to do with it? Did they just party too hard and let Hollywood(Also known as Joel Silver in this case) totally take over and ruin the style? (And it's not the Sophia Stewart thing. I researched that. Its just a hopeless cash grab.)

There is an explanation for this. The Matrix 1 wasn't a fluke. Bound has the same qualities.

I told myself that the answer is out there, it's looking for me, and it'll find me if I want it to.

Well, here I am wanting it to.

Find me, answer!

Thank you.

There are plenty of Wachowski-esque moments in all 3 of the Matrix movies.. their visual flair is undeniably present in both the sequels even if not everyone enjoyed the pacing and plot direction the movies took. The reason for the assistant directors is simple.. the size and scale of the movies. The creative aspect of the direction is already secured during the process of pre-vis and storyboarding which is conducted with the full participation of the Wachowskis.

I think you need to stop being so sceptical about the whole thing! Surely, you realise that Hugo Weaving's comments were said with tongue firmly in cheek? I actually thought that if you watch the interviews with the cast members, you can see that they are all fiercely proud of what they all took part in. As for Marcus Chong, who played Tank in M1.. he WAS offered more money than he was paid in M1.. but he requested an even higher fee to reprise his role in the sequels.. the studio and the Wachowskis made it clear to him that they couldn't pay him that much and basically replied back saying thanks, but if you're gonna be asking that much we don't need you in it anymore. This sparked off a rather nasty row which resulted in Marcus Chong losing his temper and making threatening phone calls to the studio and the studio in return trying to get him arrested by allegedly submitting photos of him brandishing a gun but was actually taken from a movie he had been in!

The Wachowskis did indeed have a contract clause to avoid partaking in interviews, but that is probably just due to their dislike for playing the media game. I think they also like the idea that their reclusiveness adds an air of mystery to them and their work.

I do agree that Gloria Foster did deserve a tribute in the boxset though...

I agree with Grub, the sequels (especially Revolutions) does not have the "Wachoski touch", they did their best to direct it as much as possible but when you take a look at the how big the movie making was, I doubt that they didn't use a lot of help to shot less important scenes.

I agree that the battle of Zion was boring and way too long, they should have invested more money to make the superbrawl really super.

You guys are the biggest losers ever. Sitiing around and talking about the matrix. I am sure you're the same people who walk around in black overcoats and kill people in schools.

I hope you didn't join this site just to post that comment cause that was uncalled for. No I don't walk around in trenchcoats looking to kill people. But I do know a great movie or trilogy in this case when I see it! Whose the loser if you joined just to post that comment.

objector wrote:

I am sure you're the same people who walk around in black overcoats and kill people in schools.

Yeah, but I only kill spiteful idiots who pick on my fellow geeks

objector wrote:

You guys are the biggest losers ever. Sitiing around and talking about the matrix. I am sure you're the same people who walk around in black overcoats and kill people in schools.

Well actually I walk around in a two-way neat suit with a black neck-tie and Italian sunglassess.
Then I like to put my hand in a female schoolteacher and say almost orgasm-like: me me me!

Fatpie42 wrote:

Yeah, but I only kill spiteful idiots who pick on my fellow geeks

Geeks?

Speak for yourself lol....far from it.

The reason why the last 2 films are so different is because they first Matirx started to be shot in 97. Reloaded and Revolutins started back in 2001, because of the new technology it looks different. They had to add in more assistant directors to help, because they had a certain amount of time in which to do Enter The Matrix, Reloaded, and Revolutions (its pretty tough to follow up on all that with time being an important factor to the schedule). I know for a fact that the first assistant director took lead in directing some portions of the last 2 films, but all in all The Wachowskis did have the final dicision on everything.

And yes I do infact dress in black casual clothing with my shades on looking to shoot people with my two 9s.



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