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Why, in the original Matrix during the gun battle scene on top of the building with Neo and Trinity, why did the Agent allow Trinity to get so close to him so she could shoot him? Any ideas?

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This is just one of those situations where you have to say "It's just a movie"....

Sometimes movie makers have to let the logic go bye bye for some scenes to be cool. For example, the one you just mentioned....

We know that the agent would be way smarter and pay better attention to his surroundings, but they had to sneak in that funny and witty Triniy line "Dodge this"

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I cant remember so well but i think;

1.Neo shooted at the Agent. Agent dodged.

2.Before Agent shoted at Neo, he said "Trinity" and went bullet-time.

3.When bullet-time was over (When Neo is wounded from his shoulder) Trinity pulled the trigger.

i tihnk there was little time between event 2 and 3, so Trinity ran to the Agent and killed him.

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The One Lives On wrote:

We know that the agent would be way smarter and pay better attention to his surroundings,
Ah, but the agent just saw a copper top dodge a bullet. - something he's probably not used to

This could have contributed to his hesitation / distraction / full pants Whitelaugh

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SethVonYork wrote:

Why, in the original Matrix during the gun battle scene on top of the building with Neo and Trinity, why did the Agent allow Trinity to get so close to him so she could shoot him? Any ideas?


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In reloaded, there is a similar contradiction. In the building, at the end of the movie, when trinity points her guns towards the Agent, he does not make his "agent trick" to avoid bullets, instead he hides himself behind a wall made of carton (silly idea).

So why not dodge the bullets ?

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It's quite simple actually, it isn't an agent trick. We don't see any of them do it in M1... It's Neo's trick. From that point on, the system is just emulating him. Remember, the agents in Reloaded who are capable of this are upgrades. "hmm... upgrades."

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Apocryphe wrote:

In reloaded, there is a similar contradiction. In the building, at the end of the movie, when trinity points her guns towards the Agent, he does not make his "agent trick" to avoid bullets, instead he hides himself behind a wall made of carton (silly idea).

So why not dodge the bullets ?


You're right, and if you pay close attention (it's more noticable in the beginning of the movie) trinity hits the agent with a bullet when they are falling. But again, they are falling, and it is just a movie.

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TheChosenOne wrote:

It's quite simple actually, it isn't an agent trick.


..But before the sequence where Neo (not-quite)dodges the bullets in M1 , the Agent does the Dodge trick. Right there - that's why Neo is so scared.

Neo: [shoots] (not shooted/shoted, I add)
Agent: [dodges the bullets]
Neo: Trinity! Help!
Agent: [fires; Neo dodges all bullets except two]

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Correct. I can understand that the Agents don't do their trick while falling, especially since they know that they reached their goal (killing Trinity).

But I still wonder why he hides behind a wall of carton !

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The agent dodged on the roof top because all of the other people apart from Trin and Neo were dead!

Usually an agent would not be too fussed with getting shot as they can plug into another person near by.

However there were no other people anywhere near!

Therefore inorder to try his best to achieve his objective dodging was a better option.

The agent on the roof top ducks for cover because he can.

Thats quicker and more efficient than gatting shot then having to "possess" another person then resume the chase.

Plus dodging is not just a NEO trick. As Morpheous says "I have seen people empty entire clips at an agent and have hit nothing but air"

That says to me that it is a regular trick!

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Yes -- an Agent trick that Neo borrowed before developing his own trick.

The other rebels, as far as I know, can't dodge bullets like an Agent does.

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The agent dodged on the roof top because all of the other people apart from Trin and Neo were dead!

Usually an agent would not be too fussed with getting shot as they can plug into another person near by.

However there were no other people anywhere near!

Therefore inorder to try his best to achieve his objective dodging was a better option.


Then why did Agent Johnson dodge when he was on the hood of the car as opposed to getting shot and changeing hosts?

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Okay, so it's inconsistent. That's movies. How boring would the Matrix be if everything you saw was completely consistent and made logical sense, in the middle of combat even?

Scene 1: [point gun at Agent, Agent dodges]
Scene 2: [point gun at Agent, Agent dodges]
Scene 3: [point gun at Agent, Agent dodges]
Scene 4: [point gun at Agent, Agent dodges]
Scene 123: [attack Neo, Neo always jumps in your body]

It would get plain silly and boring man.

That's all I think it is. Plus, maybe... just maybe, in the scene with Agent Johnson and Trinity, he moved behind the wall because Agent dodge wouldn't work. The Agent did it on the car against Morpheus' single Glock 18 on auto... but can an Agent dodge TWO UZIS from point blank range, without the speeding car impediment to help them?

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Then why did Agent Johnson dodge when he was on the hood of the car as opposed to getting shot and changeing hosts?


Because that would involve again "Possesing" someone in another vehicle and performing the whole car jumping thing again!

Why do that when you are so close the the Exhile?

It was more efficient again!

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Agents can't dodge point blank remember they exist in a world of rules.

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