»Symbolism in Revolutions«

Alright everyone just wanted to start a thread about any symbolism noticed in Revolutions- here are a couple that I caught my first ride through- can't wait to see it a couple more times to get a real appreciation for the beautiful subtilty and imagery contained within

**the "LOOP" sign on the train (pretty obvious)
**"Mobil" Station rearranged to spell LIMBO implying Neo being caught between the Matrix and the real world
**The Oricle's earrings shaped as a ying-yang symbolizing the balance of positive and negative forces within the Universe (Neo-Smith, Oricle-Architect)
**When Neo and Smith are battling up into the sky their movement apprears to resemble a double helix alluding to DNA as a symbol for human programming similar to machine code
**In the opening sequence you see golden fractals morph into matrix code which symbolizes the infinite nature of quantum Universal reality
**The three lines in the machine city could have a connection to Trinity possibly forshadowing her death(?)
**The merovingian's olives (hehe maybe duality/ causality connection anyone up for a go?)


Thats all I got right now

Hmm... olives... cant taste the sweet without the sour? He is so fed up and tired of his long 'life' that he can hardly find ways to entertain himself anymore.

Yin and yang are everywhere.

Morpheus and Neo train. Morpheus is a black man wearing a black uniform, but with white trim. Neo is a white man wearing a white uniform, but with black trim.
The two semis that collide in Reloaded: one is white with black markings, the other is black with white markings.
The Architect is white, wears white, but has a black tie. The Oracle is black, doesn't wear black but doesn't wear exceptionally light clothing, and smokes a white cigarette.

The Merovingian is eating those two eye-sized olives while talking about the eyes of the Oracle, i think it's just meant to give us an idea of what he would do with them.

What's that symbol that appears in the opening sequence of Revolutions? It looks like an Ankh with the top loop cut into a crescent...or else what?

Besides being an obvious Christ example. (He was in the position of crucifixion when he died). Also, the Sun in the last shot. Many gods who die and resurrect (and there are many) in mythology are represented by the Sun. I thought this could definitly be a tie in, but then my question is, the little girl, Sati (does anyone know what this means?) programmed that Sunrise. So, if the Sun also represents Neo, could she have created *him*?

Just a thought.

from: m-w.com...

Sati:

Main Entry: sa•ti
Pronunciation: (")s&-'tE, 's&-"tE
variant of SUTTEE

Main Entry: sut•tee
Pronunciation: (")s&-'tE, 's&-"tE
Function: noun
Etymology: Sanskrit satI wife who performs suttee, literally, devoted woman, from feminine of sat true, good; akin to Old English sOth true -- more at SOOTH
Date: 1786
: the act or custom of a Hindu widow willingly being cremated on the funeral pyre of her husband as an indication of her devotion to him; also : a woman cremated in this way

Main Entry: 1sooth
Pronunciation: 'süth
Function: adjective
Etymology: Middle English, from Old English sOth; akin to Old High German sand true, Latin esse to be
Date: before 12th century
1 archaic : TRUE
2 archaic : SOFT, SWEET

You can find more on that for instance here:
kamat.com...

I think that the first meaning is in a way much more puzzling than heplful. I would like to see if anyone can make something from it ...

Actually, I did discover the Goddess Sati in Hindu mythology later on.

I also saw a note about an Egyptian Goddess named Sati, who was in charge of the Nile River flooding every year... So, symbolic of rebirth and renewl.

However, the definitions of the Hindu "sati" don't tell the whole story. Not only was she a wife who "satied" herself due to some dishonor of hers, she is also in their mytholgy the woman who rebelled against male domination (one of a few Goddesses). One of ten specifically, the "ten Hamayanas" (someone do tell me if I spelled that wrong.) She was a bad girl.

It may seem strange to westerners that a Goddess can embody two UTTERLY different things at the same time, but it is quite common in Hindu mythology and makes perfect sense to them. *shrug*

Anyways, the Egyptian reference seems more appropriate for the Matrix's Sati, but perhaps they were trying to say something I didn't pick up with that character. Tho, Sati did supposedly reincarnate into the next wife of Shiva (whom she was married to originally, the myth doesn't go that he died and she threw herself on his funeral pyre, she threw herself on a feast fire because her Father dishonored her, in one account.) So, perhaps she too is an allusion to death and rebirth, that would make perfect sense with the Sati in the movie.

Sati:

I think symbolisms in all cultures teach us some valuable information. matrix is no exception as a modern mytholgy. I got this information from a very interesting source.

matrixjourney.com...

Hi,

I appreciate in Revolutions some different scenaries related to some reality dimensions in hermetics and religions:

Hell: It's the disco where the Merov. remains. A hard place for Neo friends.
Limbo: as you figured out, it's the "mobil ave", where nobody will escape by itself.
Zion: it is the "earth" where real humans are. It is the 3rd dimension.
Matrix: It's a superior dimension.
Deus machine: It is even superior than Matrix. Nobody without the knowledge could get there.

Matrix: It is where people lives without noticing that there is no reality, that it is a "false" world. Think about this: Only who knows that it's false could escape or go beyond the laws of this world. Do this make you remember something ? Think about our dream world, where we are sleeping and always we are living there the same life as we live here: similar problems, our worries, etc.

There are philosophies that encourage people to awake inside the dreams, that is known as "astral travel". This world is called "Astral dimension". And people that does this kind of activities could control its movements arround this dimension, and even fly there.

Each dimension or region have specific laws or rules associated. Neo cannot move from limbo but can fly on Matrix.

Hell is a hard place where someone must sacrifice for someother. Even the angel must go to the hell !. Remember that Merov. said to the guardian angel something like 'You're comming back'. There's some religious ideas like "..you must go down first to go up later".

And the Deus Ex location: No one could go there without the needed power and knowledge. Notice that the nature of the place is light. Neo does not use the human senses. He perceives the light because these world "is made of light". This world is the one of the cause-effect.
It is there where Neo knows as a revelation what to do.