»Smith is A Virus«

I thing Smith is a virus , mostly of people think that to, the virus is taking over in m3 the world an there are only smith an neo rest , an smith is taking also the maschines , so they have feelengs , an neo can stop them in the true word,
thats why he has stop the maschine at the end in m2

Excuse me, but who stopped the sentinels and how?

If we're talking about year 2199 (maybe even further, Morpheus says they dont know), why is it not possible for Neo to have a wireless connection to the matrix or just to the sentinels so that he can disable them. What makes you think that the electricity around sentinels was caused by Neo. Maybe he just put his hand up to broadcast the signal.

Or maybe something hapenned in the background that caused the sentinels to drop (maybe Smith overwrites some code), and Neo's lifting of his hand was just a coincidence, afterward he fell in a coma by being electricuted.

Coincidence... another mystery, was it coincidence that Tank woke up just before Cypher was going to unplug Neo?

Do you have a theory to explain all facts (as written at

What theory? its was an idea, with some inspiration you can make a theory.

1) Neo feels the sentinels and knows them
Lets assume he has a wireless connection, and so do they. When I bring my mobile phone to my laptop, they sense each other and establish a connection.

2) Stop+destruct
Like I said, where is it written that Neo stops the machines. My idea is that it is just a coincidence that they stopped at the same time he lift his hand. Or, he sent a crack through the wireless connection and disabled them.

3) Zapping is not EMPing
So? Im not suggesting EMP.

4) No hard-wire
Like I said, why bother with wires in this distant future.

5) No coincidence
Are you Larry? or Andy? How do you know? Who says?

6) Coma
Electricution. Cant you see that he is shaking, as if he is electricuted.

I dont have anything against your theories, I just dont agree to MIM or MWAM. According to MIM, is there a real world (somewhere)? And if so, what makes you think its real? According to MIM, we should forget we ever watched M1.

I couldn't care less how to call and categorize this character. The real problem is the mind set conveyed by Smith. 'We are only apperently free and have to follow the preset purpose'.

Several posters - including the board host - seem to be infected by this dangerous stuff, and I wonder to find the cure.

What the Fuck?? Can't you people type in English instead of mis-spelling/using every other god damn word?

guest wrote:

What the Fuck?? Can't you people type in English instead of mis-spelling/using every other god damn word?

A user posting as guest (as you do) has no right to complain about the spelling of others, hehe

In proper English, goddamn is one word. It can also be spelled with the variant "goddam." I imagine that your usage would be fine if you capitalized the god, but then you would be blaspheming.

yes thats it.. a coincidence that Neo put up his hand just as something else destroyed the sentinels..

thats something a 12 year old kid would come up with

i am seriously debating with myself whether or not i should keep coming to this forum..

oh hey.. maybe im actually a monkey typing random letters on my keyboard, and its just a COINCIDENCE that im completely bashing a stupid idea. thats pretty much the same shit.

i would seriously walk out of the theatre if something that stupid happened. and so would many other people in there right mind! lol.. lets be realistic..

@ Erazman ~ DAMMIT, don't let THEM get to you... With any luck THEY may just go away....
By the way Smith is a part of the unbalanced equation - The Alpha to Neos Omega

Hey... maybe its a COINCIDINCE that life exists.

knnknn wrote:

Do you have a theory to explain all facts (as written at matrix-explained.com... 1) Neo feels the sentinels and knows them 2) Stop+destruct 3) Zapping is not EMPing 4) No hard-wire 5) No coincidence 6) Coma

1. As Neo says, something is different, he can feel it. Something has happened to Neo to cause this evolution in his awareness. Its possible this happened when he encountered the Architecht. He did not actually step through the door, he opened the door, and a bright light engulfed him, then he APPEARED in the room with the Architecht. There are also the monitors in the Architechts room displaying numerous Neo's with different reactions. Are these previous "One's", or was a copy of Neo's residual self image made when he was assimilated by the light, and then used in multiple simulations all leading up to an encounter with the Architecht, which the Architecht uses to know how Neo may react etc. Its possible that there is some sort of copy or essence of Neo still residing in the Matrix and so now he exists in the Matrix and Zion simultaneously somehow.

We know this is possible in some way because Agent Smith "infected" Bane or whoever after the recovery of the Oracles message, and so now inhabits the Matrix and Zion simultaneously. He is also the only survivor of the small skirmish with other sentinels, and is apparently in the same condition that Neo is in. Which means he may have stopped the sentinels from killing him in a similar fashion that Neo used. We don't know exactly HOW the sentinels were stopped in either case.

2,3,5. They were stopped violently, but not totally destroyed in the fashion that they exploded. To me it appeared to be some sort of short circuit or overload. We don't know exactly how the sentinels work and so we cannot apply any laws of physics to them and say they should have continued moving forward as they were put out of commission. I.E. An object in motion tends to stay in motion etc etc. So Neo didn't necessarily throw up an "invisible wall" like he does when he stops bullets in mid air. I believe Neo stopped them, exactly how is unknown. I don't think it was coincedence or another ships EMP either.

4. No one on the ships is "hard wired" to connect to the Matrix. They plug into the ship or some other device in the ship which then BROADCASTS some sort of signal, like a sattellite to connect to the Matrix. There are 3 or 4 mentions in both movies of having to be at "broadcast level" to enter the Matrix.

Anonymous wrote:

Are these previous "One's", or was a copy of Neo's residual self image made when he was assimilated by the light, and then used in multiple simulations all leading up to an encounter with the Architecht

Now my view has always been that the screens represent possible outcomes during the conversations.

But reading this post I had a whacky thought - And I put this forward as such and not a serious suggestion of the plot.

What if every Neo in those screens WAS a copy and each of them was talking to an architect at the same time. The architect woud only need one of them to go to the source

It's irrelevant anyway, since they all chose the same door.

knnknn wrote:

Do you have a theory to explain all facts (as written at matrix-explained.com...

Yes!

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1) Neo feels the sentinels and knows them

Neo has "super powers"

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2) Stop+destruct

Neo has "super powers"

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3) Zapping is not EMPing

Neo has "super powers"

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4) No hard-wire

Neo has "super powers"

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5) No coincidence

Neo has "super powers"

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6) Coma

Neo has been up all night

according to the matrix decoded that was on channel 5 ( uk ) on sunday, smith technically isn't a virus. his original programming was altered during his destruction and is now "the result of the unbalanced equation attempting to balance itself" it is the exact equal opposite of neo. and that's not my opinion. it's what both hugo weaving and the oracle in M3 say ..

You can't argue with the facts.

Balphaus wrote:

according to the matrix decoded that was on channel 5 ( uk ) on sunday, smith technically isn't a virus.

Smith is not a virus. Smith is a cancer:
Agent Smith: "A virus. Human beings are a disease, a cancer of this planet."

Agent Smith was normal once (like a cell), was altered (DNA changes) and spreads now (like a cancer). Virii don't spread always. Sometimes they wait. But cancer spreads.

It's been suggested many times that Neo had to die to become the one.

Now, Smith is described as Neo's opposite, but what if it's a little more.

What if the part of neo that imprinted on smith was (to borrow a phase from another popular movie series) his "dark side".

In shedding the dark part of his character, Neo was purified into the one. At the same time he (re)created in Agent Smith the Anti-One or minus one.

I know the first reaction will be "but he could see the code and stop bullets before he killed smith"

Yeah, but he was dodging bullets and fighting agents before he died.

I'm just suggesting the "becoming" is a gradual process, topped off by dumping all your baggage into the nearest agent.

I agree that Neo seperates his light and dark side by overwriting Smith. This makes Smith a perfect bad guy, as the anomaly can fight itself kung-fu style.

The previous versions of The One did not overwrite Smith, and was carrying the evil code themselves. This would make it impossible for them to avoid the cataclysmic system crash if they chosse the left door.

So the two differences in the path of The One (the overwriting of Smith and the love for Trinity) makes the perfect moviescript. Strange.

Smith and Neo could very well be opposite forces, but consider what this means. Smith has grown beyond the control of the system. He is the destroyer, the ultimate weapon against the One (as explained by his license plate - see Hidden Meanings in the Matrix). He has been created by the system to wreak havoc. But that creates a loophole, or an 'unbalanced equation', as you say: he turns against the system. Whether he does so by free will (perhaps he discovered free will when Neo freed him) or because he is a damaged program skipping on repeat, doesn't matter here. The point is that while he operates within the rules of his purpose, his cause and effect, his why, his result is outside the system. While he may not operate outside the system, he has certainly bent the rules.

Neo is the same, then, because he has also learned to bend or break similar systems of rules. He has a purpose in the system, yes, but as far as we can tell, he has strayed from the path of the one (either in choosing the left door, or in reincarnating Trinity, or any number of anomalies). More importantly, it seems clear that only Neo can stop Smith. We know that in Revolutions Neo will be travelling to the machine city, where he will confront Smith, and will have in his hands the fate of both worlds (machine and human).

Now stand back and take a broad look at things (and I choose my words very, very carefully). Neo and Smith, who may be the same but have different causes, bend the rules of the system in order to bring into effect their own purposes, which must be different from those designed by the system (Smith wants to take over the world, when he was only designed to protect the matrix, and Neo wants to save the world, when he was only meant to control the 1%).

Now look closely: Neo and Smith have not only bent the rules of the system, they have altered the course of history (or future, depending on how you look at it), but they have done so within the guidelines set by the matrix for them to fulfill their original purposes. Hence, Zion is not in another Matrix at all. That would be a redundant plot twist, characteristic of poor science fiction. Rather, the Wachowski Brothers have made the point that we may very well be in the Matrix. Since nothing that Neo and Smith have done (will have done) will be outside the parameters of their purpose (they simply found loopholes), there may very well be a system controlling us all. A system that is not tactile or vlnerable like the matrix. It is a system of religion, or philosophy, or whatever you believe controls humanity/human destiny.

Since Neo and Smith both choose to disobey, there is one thing that remains within the system, that makes every life unique and worthwhile. Choice. Choice is the problem.

knnknn wrote:

Agent Smith was normal once (like a cell), was altered (DNA changes) and spreads now (like a cancer). Virii don't spread always. Sometimes they wait. But cancer spreads.

Wel he could be like an Worm virus... The grow spreads, spreads more... and ooops... They are everywhere... But the problem in my theory is that it is Neo that is the virus... or maybe both of them are viruses and as the agents says "You are a virus and we are the cure... And then you have the thing that is against my theory about that Smith is a virus:

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In the first movie when they have cahced Morpheus and Smith wants to speak to him alone he says: "I need that code so we can destroy Zion... Becouse when Zion is destroyed there is no need for me to be here" And what kinda virus dislikes being in a data program?