»The Matrix = The Truth about 2000 years of Christianity«

After reading a few books (The Da Vinci Code, Holy blood, Holy Grail) and a few other web sites about Jesus. I found it hard not to draw parallels between the stories about the conspiracy theories Of Jesus and the matrix Movies. The conspiracy theory very quickly summed up is that Jesus actually was married to Mary Magdalene and she gave birth to Jesus’ child Name Sarah. Mary moved to some part of France and raised the child who in turn continued the bloodline of Christ through to the Merovigion Era of Rulers in France. The secret of what really happened to Jesus is that he had a child to Mary M and that bloodline flourished but Christianity did not reference any of this in the religion. The family secret was passed down through generations. at some point a descendant of Christ made secret society called the "Priory of Sion (Pronounced Zion)" to pass on the secret through history. so powerful was this secret that it is believed that Hush money was given to certain people to keep it silent from the church. But how can this be proved? Part of the secret passed down through Sion members is the location of the proof....The holy Grail. The holy grail refers to not a cup but the tomb of Mary Magdalene and documents that trace the blood line to the Merovigion family. How does this relate to the matrix? Well members of this secret society have been artists and famous people through history who painted in secret meanings and symbolism into their art works to tell the world of the hidden truth. One to mention is Leonardo Da Vinci, whose last supper is believed to hold a few secrets, namely that the person on Jesus’ right is actually marry Magdalene. How i think that this relates to the Matrix is that the Creators of the movies are trying to pass on the same secret hidden within there movie as did Leonardo da Vinci and a more modern day artist Walt Disney and Charles Shultz (Snoopy, Peanuts) A few of the cartoons of both artists are said to hold more meanings that is first seen.
But what i found in the matrix was follows.
-The Machines represent the modern Church that keep us happy and at bay and hide the truth from us.
-The Underground secret city zion, or the secret society priory of sion
-The Merovigion on reloaded what he is and what he is doing. He got his power and riches from the secret.
-How both male and female characters are as equals, as was the worship of the priory of sion with Goddess worship towords females due to Mary Magdalene being the mother of Jesus.
-Trinity, The holy trinity killed in the third movie.. or was she?

Does any one else have any other opinions or theories on this. Are the brothers that wrote this movie actually in hold of such a secret and trying to pass it on?

Tim Rice wrote that one; I also like, 'You'll find that many of the truths we cling to depend greatly on our own point of view.' - Obi-Wan Kenobi.

The 'Truth' about the 'bloodline of Jesus' has always left a bad taste in my mouth. Not because I'm Christian, and not because I don't have an open mind. On the contrary; I think it is a very interesting argument, compelling and possibly enlightening, with the potential to turn the paradigm of Christianity on its ear. But it's just too much for me. I like a good conspiracy as much as the next guy, but they should be taken with a grain -- or often a block -- of salt.

Since you like to read, I recommend another book which claims to have found the 'lost truth' of the origins of Christianity. Two books, actually, both by Timothy Freke and Peter Gandy, The Jesus Mysteries and Jesus and the Goddess (aka Jesus and the Lost Goddess, in the US).

I'll try to sum up the argument from these books, as well as from my own research into the matter, and then connect it to The Matrix (though, I don't want to get too far into that, for lack of time (I'm behind schedule on another project at the moment) and for the fact that at some point in the near future, I plan to have a (somewhat) concise version of 'The Matrix Mysteries' on my own website.

Here's the story: The Roman Empire in the early first century CE is increasingly horrible to the Jewish population, culminating in the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem around 70 CE. Jews are clamoring for a saviour, their Messiah (meaning='anointed one') who, according to Jewish legend, was to come from the line of David and lead the Jews to victory over their oppressors in the time of their most desperate need. He never came (as Jews today will readily tell you).

At the same time, many cults were gaining popularity in the Empire, aside from the State-sanctioned polytheistic Olympian tradition taken from the Greeks. Greek life and thought was still quite prevalent, in fact, throughout the Roman Empire. Alexandria, Egypt, one of the greatest cities in the old Greek Empire, still stood as a great place of learning, and many Jews lived there. The Jews in Alexandria (and elsewhere in the Empire, to be sure) were well aware of some of these cults, or to call them more accurately, esoteric schools. These schools taught their initiates the 'Mysteries' in the form of myths of a fallen Goddess who is redeemed, and a dying and resurrecting Godman.

In the late first century BCE, and the early first century CE, some groups of Jewish scholars called the Essenes and the Therapeutae synthesized their myths of the Messiah (a relatively minor Jewish deity, if he can even be called that) and the Godman of the Mysteries to form the person of Iesous Chrestos (or Christos) -- Jesus the Good (or the anointed). These Gnostics (which means 'knowers'; a common term in the various languages for initiates in regional Mystery schools) used the anticipation for the Messiah to bring the message of redemption of the soul; their Messiah wasn't one who saved them from their physical enemies -- he was meant to save their souls (so to speak).

Mary the Mother of Jesus and Mary the Magdalene (a prostitute, which is a common theme in the Mysteries' Goddess myths) represent the redeemed and the fallen aspects of the Goddess, respectively. The whole story is an allegory, just like the myths in the Mystery cults, which means that the earliest Christians were actually initiates into an esoteric school which taught 'The Jesus Mysteries' (if you will).

The Matrix also has many allusions to the Mysteries. There are indications of Gnostic thought all over the place, which, if you poke around these forums, I'm sure you'll find (many of them from yours truly).

Far from the controversy of Jesus' children secretly kept for generations, this is a truly controversial, and profound idea. To me, it makes more sense, and fits quite well with The Matrix's more esoteric principles. Maybe when I have more time, I'll post some specific Matrix Mysteries stuff -- I'd better get to work on that website, I think.

... that the ones who are chasing those who are "rebels" had a way to check out every mail you send, every word you say in every means (as T.V, movies, phone calls...);

Now, imagine that - to take away this means of control you - (as part of the "conspiracy") - simply put in to motion topics (as movies or books) concerning key themes and key words (as Merovingian, Sangreal, Zion/Sion, Matrix/Dolphin).

This would be the perfect cover to keep comunicating with your "compadres" - the rebels - using public means of comunication but without being spoted (because the main lines would be crowded with these topics, key words etc);

It's a good theory of conspiracy... and a good means to kep developing it in the very nose of those who try to stop it from happening...

Whatever it is to happen, if something is...

annaerullo wrote:

The Matrix also has many allusions to the Mysteries. There are indications of Gnostic thought all over the place

I can see lots of parallels to Christianity in The Matrix, particularly in M1...

Neo connecting with trinity, following the white rabbit, encountering agents/forces that try to dissuade him. Encountering two aspects of Christians in the car on the way to see Morpheus... ‘our way or the highway’ and trinity’s more compassionate approach. They deliver him from an evil presence/bug. Honesty whilst encountering Morpheus/truth causes new birth.

Receives training/the word of god. Freeing his mind, entering the Oracle/intuitive domain (spirit realm). Struggling to believe/cipher’s betrayal. Encountering evolutionary meaningless/smith trying to rob Zion’s/spiritual access codes. Dying to self, enabling Morpheus to live. Resurrected by divine love and empowered for destiny!

One perception I saw.

Hmm... Could be... But some things aren't quite clear then... What would Agent Smith present?

Agent Smith always represents sin and/or death in any Christian interpretation.

Mankind is saved because Jesus experiences death (the punishment for sin) but death has no power over Him. Sound right?

Yeah, I'm convinced...

The Architect i think is a decendant of the merovigian in the matrix. this is also the case with the Frenach rulers having there bloodline flow to the english Bera IV, whose family escaped to Englend from the Vikings around 900BC. The Bera iV family was also Nicknamed the "The Architect ". any comments?

Don't think it works. The architect in the matrix movies came first. Also the architect appears much more important than the merovingian does.

Hey fatpie,

Do you think the Priory et Scion actually exists? and if you do, do you think the Wachowski's are part of it, and they're doing the same thing as Da Vinci and sending out hidden hints and symbols through The Matrix Movies?

is a trash novel. It has nothing to do with real life. I don't see where you've got this idea that Da Vinci ever gave out secret codes.

I'm afraid I don't know what 'Priory et Scion' is.

"Da Vinci Code" is imo a good novel, but it should be taken for what it is,... a novel based on a mixture of historical facts and modern myths.

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The Da Vinci Code is a trash novel (...) I'm afraid I don't know what 'Priory et Scion' is.

I gather you haven't read the book, since it's all about the Priory of Sion.

Regarding secret codes, you might take a look at this:
danbrown.com...
According to Dan Brown's research, the person to Jesus' left is female (take a look at the third picture on the link). And their bodies form a "V", the symbol of the grail. She is supposed to be Mary Magdalene, his wife and the mother of his child, who's decendents would eventually merge with the Merovingian blood line. According to Brown, the search for the holy grail is the search to kneel at the mortal remains of Mary Magdalene, that are hidden and protected by the Priory....

you hit the nail on the head. its all about communication and the way it is used without the majority even seeing it. some call it....'synchronistic linguistics'.

jesus... there is one thought that came to my mind long time ago and will not escape me...

What if Jesus was born among the people who appreciated him? Such people as greeks, romans or even egyptians...

If he was born in greece, he would have never been crucified for his beleifs, that's for sure.. He could have had his own school, students and respectful place among greek philosophers...

If he was born in Rome... Every caesar was claiming to be a son of god of some sort... He would have been laughed at, but not crucified... Unless he came to power... Then he would have become the Ceasar... and it is ok to be a son of god then,,,,
If he was born in Egypt. He had a chance on creating his own mystical church and people from all over the world would come and visit him...

But he was born in Palestine... Among the people who rejected his beleifs and crucified him... (it wasn't the romans who crucified him)...

There is no proof if Jesus ever existed... No major historian of his time ever mentiones him... No roman chronicle does either...
It is a good story... But there is no proof of it...

Da vinci was a genius... No doubt about it... He was the spark inside the darkness of the middle ages... What he really wanted to say with his painting will never be known... Just like the face of Mona Lisa will always inspire questions...

By the way, did any one of you read the great russian book called "Master and Margarita"?

It is an amazing story... Gives you completely different prespective on llife and christianity...

I'm agreeing with omega here..
There is so many truths out there, the matrix is one step. What steps would you take?

Some questions will never be answered despite all of our attempts...
We simply have to get over that and realise that the truth is far out of our reach and the closer we think we get to it, the farther it slips away...

Whops this seems longer than I intended

"Truths"... well I don't think of anything like that I really belive that truth should be one though may be percieved in different ways...

After reading Da Vinci Code it really opened me to questioning religion and well if anyone says as they do that it's not good to question religion? I think thats the gravest reason to why I wouldn't believe in religion at all... but I still do believe.

Well I was truely supprised by Dan Brown's facts come to something like "History being written by the winners" that totally beats me... therefore I wouldn't like to totally dismiss his facts, but one of the things that I think this book is based on is the "Holy Grail" which comes down to the Merovigian(s) issue... with that in mind I read another book "The Biggest Secrets", [note: not all that is read should be really percieved as it is stated, but I think one should take time to understand it and use it for their own quest for "The truth"] I don't totally agree with all this guy (David Icke) though I can't dismiss it for example Jesus has never existed and the Merovingians are not what we have been made to belive they are, isn't that a shocker. His Merovigians, Priory of Sion, e.t.c theory is quite different from Dan Brown's. So where does this all put me as a reader... that am still working on ....

Ok back to the thread's issue [which I really try never to deviate from], Matrix meets Christianity and the ticket is Merovigian... perosnally I think the Wachoski's inclusion of The Merovigian in this "Matrix" was just to stir up the movie and not the movie concept, I really see the movie remaining much the same without this character to bad he created lots of characters in Reloaded which he failed to use in Revolution. If Matrix is ever going to meet Christian [since Christianity was here before] It should be through Sohipia's concept from the behind [The Bible's revelations].

PS.
I really need to read "Master and Margarita"

Master and Margarita is amazing...
Most definetely it is the most popular book ever written by a Russian.

I recommend reading it to everyone... Especially hardcore beleivers...

All the Priory of Sion stuff is made up right? Does anyone actually know ANYTHING about the society really? Is it even a real society anyway?

With all the misleading parts and all-out lies in the Da Vinci Code I don't dare believe any of it. I'd be more likely to believe the matrix. It contains more facts.

Noone knows the truth, even Da Vinci (although he might have come closer than most).

Fatpie42 wrote:

All the Priory of Sion stuff is made up right? Does anyone actually know ANYTHING about the society really? Is it even a real society anyway? With all the misleading parts and all-out lies in the Da Vinci Code I don't dare believe any of it. I'd be more likely to believe the matrix. It contains more facts.

This is a joke right... ?
Well if not the do some googling you will be so supprised at how much (truth) is there....
Oh... there is this temple that was found underground in Paris, it was with everything in it [like a modern confrence hall with] but had never been heard of... as in never.
Next day they found a death note before investigating on it. (ok this doesn't really show the picture am gonna google for you the news)
There are so many cults

: )

I have to say this:
Quoting the parody on George Bush on Saturday Night Live:

...I don’t know how these Internets are carrying these rumors. You know, they’re just wrong! I think the problem here may be more of a question of getting rid of the bad Internets and keeping the good Internets. ‘Cause I think we can all agree, there’s just too many Internets...


Be careful what you read online. Some stuff may be educational and some maybe pure junk...

everything one needs to know to fulfill their purpose is obtainable and waiting to be found. everything else is irrelevant.

conceptx wrote:

Fatpie42 wrote: All the Priory of Sion stuff is made up right? Does anyone actually know ANYTHING about the society really? Is it even a real society anyway? With all the misleading parts and all-out lies in the Da Vinci Code I don't dare believe any of it. I'd be more likely to believe the matrix. It contains more facts. This is a joke right... ? Well if not the do some googling you will be so supprised at how much (truth) is there.... Oh... there is this temple that was found underground in Paris, it was with everything in it [like a modern confrence hall with] but had never been heard of... as in never. Next day they found a death note before investigating on it. (ok this doesn't really show the picture am gonna google for you the news) There are so many cults

I've checked it out. In fact one of the main reasons why I am so annoyed with the Da Vinci code is that I did a lot of research into Gnosticism prior to reading it, and gnosticism is COMPLETELY misrepresented by Dan Brown in the novel.