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Supposedly, the last matrices have benn in year 1999. But how can they stay all the time in the same year? If this matrix is about 100 years old, did the matrix began in year 1899?

and another question: When the first people where plugged into the matrix, they still had memories about the things that happened in the real world. If the machines erased this memories, would the people just have a blank in their minds?

Time inside the matrix is mostly irrelevant.

As for your second question, we don't know if the first batch of human to enter the matrix were created by a vast network of sperm banks or not.

If I were a machine god, that would be the system I'd use.

Time in the Matrix- is always around 1998 and 1999. `The peak of your civilization'. The Machines dont have problems with people questioning time because as we know, they can mess around with people's memories as if they are code on a computer (which it is).

The answer to the second question is the same- the machines can mess with the humans' memories.

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The restaurant does a very brisk business, not only in food but in power, as information is exchanged and deals are brokered over steaming dishes and tea. The building also has an unusual basement, sitting on the top of what was a four story building before the 1909 earthquake caused a mudslide that buried parts of the International District. Of course the Matrix is actually not that old-its history is a fabrication-but the physical reality of the buildings must reflect their assumed past. The four "basement" levels of the Paper Tiger (restaurant) are just one of the many oddities caused by the convoluted "history" of the Matrix.

Source- thematrixonline.com

wouldn't the humans in the matrix suspect if it always is 1999.

But I have figured out another possibility. Maybe the fact that Neo was freed in 1999 is a coincidence. What happens is that the Matrix is in any year, just that the architecture and technology stays as it was in 1999, there are no technological advances.

Ok, you say that the human minds are codes that the machines can manipulate. this makes sense, but then why didn't they just manipulated Neo's mind?

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Ok, you say that the human minds are codes that the machines can manipulate. this makes sense, but then why didn't they just manipulated Neo's mind?

They did in M1. They made him think certain things were dreams etc. They didn't do it too much cause otherwise, how would Neo have woken up from the Matrix and eventually go to the Source?

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What happens is that the Matrix is in any year, just that the architecture and technology stays as it was in 1999, there are no technological advances.

Yea that makes sense too. Time does go on but society and technology remain stagnant. So for all intents and purposes, it remains the same year.

Akshat Gupta wrote:

they can mess around with people's memories as if they are code on a computer (which it is).

When I think that we had arguments for days about that simple little fact. You were saying how stupid it was to say that machines could mess with our brains like computers.

Who's stupid now ? Oh waitn you're going to say that you always thought so, right ?

Quit stirring stuff up around here.

You truly are a rare type of jack that deserves a hard type of smack.

Don't you dare crack a jack on such a doubtful smack?

Perhaps the lightest of smack will result in the wackiest jack.

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You truly are a rare type of jack that deserves a hard type of smack. Don't you dare crack a jack on such a doubtful smack? Perhaps the lightest of smack will result in the wackiest jack.

Well....That was rather lame.

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You were saying how stupid it was to say that machines could mess with our brains like computers.

No dummy- I never said that machines can't mess with human brains. I argued with the theories you brought up asking why they would do such things over and over. Programs being brainwashed humans....sheesh. This atleast shows how much you pay attention to anyone's rebuttals against you. You just find one thing to taunt them about. Atleast I remember what your BS was.

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Well....That was rather lame.

Lame yet hilarious.

Jose208 wrote:

Supposedly, the last matrices have benn in year 1999. But how can they stay all the time in the same year? If this matrix is about 100 years old, did the matrix began in year 1899? and another question: When the first people where plugged into the matrix, they still had memories about the things that happened in the real world. If the machines erased this memories, would the people just have a blank in their minds?

i don't think it was 1999, it was way later
but Arc said the peak of tech was at 99...so thats what they set. hmm

the matrix didn't happen in a day it was a span of programs till they got it...sort of- right

Akshat Gupta wrote:

Quote: You were saying how stupid it was to say that machines could mess with our brains like computers. No dummy- I never said that machines can't mess with human brains. I argued with the theories you brought up asking why they would do such things over and over. Programs being brainwashed humans....sheesh. This atleast shows how much you pay attention to anyone's rebuttals against you. You just find one thing to taunt them about. Atleast I remember what your BS was. Quote: Well....That was rather lame. Lame yet hilarious.

What was hilarious , was you menacing of banning me. That just shows wich kind of guy you really are. Take off your mod status and go on saying to people that their theories are bs just because you fail to understand them, and we'll see how much they appreciate you.

Apoc, AG never even mentioned banning you. Even if you are annoying the hell out of him.

On the subject at hand, Morpheus said (in M1) that though they didn't know what year it was he reckoned it was closer to 2199. That would mean that 100 years previous to that would be about 2099. Does that make more sense?

But they also end up knowing that there were several matrices before that one. It's most likely close to 2699 in the Real World.


Look, did you ever see Dark City? Time there was also irrelevant since the city was "Rebooted" every day (night, to be exact).

I also pondered about that but the thing you have to understand is that the Matrix isn't LIKE the real world. It's like a dream world where not all minds may be as focused (some are, hence the 1% of rejection) as Neo's or the others. Do you ever think "Dang, what day is it" when you're dreaming? Do you even PONDER if you're dreaming, if you're awake? If you're doing things that make sense? I thought so

hmmmm wasnt there some theory on how the end of M1 actually takes place AFTER revolutions based on clocks in the background of different moments in the film?....sometime in the beginning of M1 showed certain year, and at the ending some clock shows a date of 3 years later?( I dont really remember shit, but I know there was some theorizing about this)

The thought the begininng of M1 to the end of M1 had a time span of about seven months.

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Supposedly, the last matrices have benn in year 1999. But how can they stay all the time in the same year? If this matrix is about 100 years old, did the matrix began in year 1899? and another question: When the first people where plugged into the matrix, they still had memories about the things that happened in the real world. If the machines erased this memories, would the people just have a blank in their minds?

- The Matrix (6th version) is set in 1999.
Personally, I think this was partly due to the fact that the film was released in 1999, thereby making people more unsettled.

- Erasing memories:
Maybe the machines just wrote over the memories, replacing them rather than destroying them?

There is a theory shared by at leat two posters here that the Machines developed the Matrix as they went along, progressively moving away from the Paradise in the first version. So Paradise -> Hell -> vs 1 -> etc etc... With each simulation, less people were waking up spontaniously, so they were forced to re-develop it with every anomolgy emergance.

Just a theory.

Cherub wrote:

hmmmm wasnt there some theory on how the end of M1 actually takes place AFTER revolutions based on clocks in the background of different moments in the film?....sometime in the beginning of M1 showed certain year, and at the ending some clock shows a date of 3 years later?( I dont really remember shit, but I know there was some theorizing about this)

I proved that theory was impossible because we can see Neo hanging up the phone (the final scene in Matrix1), on one of the screen behind the Architect. The datum you're talking about appeared during that scene.

Wich means that this scene happened before Reloaded, that's a 100% fact now.

Oh yeah Fatpie, stop your stupid lies, Aksha did menace me from banning.

Apocryphe wrote:

Oh yeah Fatpie, stop your stupid lies, Aksha did menace me from banning.

If so, 'twas either by PM or on another thread. :shrug:

Then why does he talk about something he does not know. Anyway, he lied so many times, there is no way that he can pretend he's not doing it on purpose.

Handbags at three paces. Draw!

Come on now, all three of you, this is getting silly. When you all get on Matrix Online, then you can beat the shit out of each other, but not here, hmm?