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I have recently (meaning just) received an email newsletter confirming my theory about The One from The Matrix Online:



THE STATE OF THE MATRIX
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Neo is dead.

However, in his sacrifice, he insured peace between the humans of Zion and the Machine civilization.

The Matrix Online takes place immediately following Revolutions. It is a tense time, and while the truce has held, no one is certain how long it will last. It is very much a cold-war scenario with all sides preparing for the worst, but most praying for peace.

In the Matrix itself, three powerful organizations vie for control.

The Merovingian continues to solidify his powerbase in the face of record numbers of immigrating Exiles (machine programs that have fled into the Matrix to avoid deletion). For the Merovingian and his ilk, the continuation of the Matrix is essential. Their very existence is now housed within the code of the Matrix. And while many Exiles exhibit incredible powers, each one has a Killcode; a specific vulnerability that can instantly destroy them.

The Machines reluctantly allow the recruitment of new redpills, but the sheer number of redpills leaving the body pods is of great concern to them. Without energy from the pods, a power crisis will occur; something that the Machines want to avoid at all costs. In addition, redpills performing rule-breaking feats may be having an effect on the population at large. People rejecting the Matrix en masse may very well be a breaking point for the truce.

Zion continues its efforts to free those who see past the Matrix, but with more and more people leaving the pods, their organization is becoming fractured. Some believe that the peace Neo secured must be protected at all costs. Others believe that the machines cannot be trusted, and are quietly preparing for the eventual outbreak of hostilities. There are also those who believe that Neo is still alive...

As a newly awakened redpill, you are thrust into this maelstrom of subterfuge and mistrust. Choose your loyalties but trust no one. The ultimate fate of the Matrix is in your hands.

There is a lot more to this email, and anyone wanting more info can reply here (I don't check PM's) and I will gladly give you a copy.

I got a chock opening that newsletter, seeing the title in blunt letters: "Neo is dead." ! :-\

You can also see an identical newsletter named thematrixonline.warnerbros.com...

The pic shows Morpheus who seems to have waken from his dreaming, not knowing what to do with his life, since he has no One to find. It's too depressing to be true. There has to be more dreaming left for Morpheus and the rest of us!

But the text gives a somewhat ambiguous aura, and eventually it says outrightly: "There are also those who believe that Neo is still alive..."

And after reading the final lines "... you are thrust into this maelstrom of subterfuge and mistrust. Choose your loyalties but trust no one. ..." I must ask: Who says I should even believe this article writer?

/z

Damn it!

You beat me to it!

I got the same newsletter too. It seems to confirm that Neo is dead but it's pretty far from it. Is reads that several people in Zion believe that Neo is still alive (I bet Morpheus is one of them ) and that still leaves the issue open as I believe this will keep being discussed more in the game.

How can thousands of people suddenly jack into the Matrix all at once? In the movies, only a small group of people from a crew could do it?

On another subject, this answer really bothered me:

Quote:

Toby Ragaini: In Reloaded, Morpheus describes how more and more red pills were being successfully recruited. And at the end of Revolutions, the Oracle makes sure the Architect will let those who seek the red pill do so without harassment. It becomes clear that thousands of individuals are now willing to give up their comforting reality in order to gain the power of the truth.

I think the question was aimed at how do all the Zionites (us, the players of MxO) jack into The Matrix all at once. As far as we've seen in the movies, the only place they can do so is inside the ships at broadcast depth, so how can all those people jack in without creating a plot hole?

perhaps the machines let the humans begin to repopulate the surface so they can more easily and in larger numbers connect to the matrix...

remember that the only reason they need to go to broadcast depth is because zion is deep within the earth and needed to be for protection against the machines

now there is no need for that protection

actually, it said somewhere that Morpheus is trying to acertain the place were Neo's body is

One thing that bothers me amongst all this is how do we know that Morpheus thinks (or anyone else in Zion) that Neo and Trinity are dead. For all they know he could have done something to gain peace, and I'm sure the first thought everyone would have is self sacrifice. Neo and Trinity could be on their way back to Zion (obvisously that's not the case.)
But this is all really interesting.

That's interesting! How would we know?

Of course, they would not return to Zion or leave any message after a long period, so all the humans would guess that they had sacrificed themselves for the sake of the peace.

Would the machines say anything about his sacrifice?

Would the humans, especially Morpheus, be allowed to just walk into Machine City and look for the body of Neo (and Trinity)?

Following a hint from Simulacra & Simulation that the Matrix has something to do with gene technology and manipulation, is it possible that the machines could have been able to reawake Neo's and Trinity's bodies or atleast keep the bodies alive in a "vegetable state"?

Interesting answers please!
/z

that topic paste wuz very open minded...that just about stated wut wuz the most obvious and wut cud b interpreted and percieved differently by every1 posting...thats y ther's such a range and variety from one of these posts 2 the next



yes, i think neo's dead

Smith=(-1)
Neo=1

correct?

or wuz the oracle lying about that 2? i hav no idea.

anyways, if she wuz tellin the truth, thats y smith and neo were obliterated, code and all, but every1 else stayed.

Neo+Smith=0
but Neo+Smith+whoever smith took over=whoever smith took over

yah

the anomaly wrote:

remember that the only reason they need to go to broadcast depth is because zion is deep within the earth and needed to be for protection against the machines now there is no need for that protection

Um actually they are at the depth because it is the only place where it is still warm. They don't seem to die from the cold of the 'desert of the real'. All the same, they much prefer to be in Zion.

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aweisgrau2 wrote:

Neo+Smith=0 but Neo+Smith+whoever smith took over=whoever smith took over

I never liked that whole 1/-1 thing. At the end of Revolutions, Neo basically allowed the Smith program to take over his digital self. Then, Deus Ex Machina sent what we assume to be an anti-virus code into Neo, which destroyed Smith from the inside out. If it were a 1/-1 thing, Smith would have been destroyed just by destroying Neo in the first place - the machines wouldn't have had to intervene. Also, the Oracle was "freed" when Smith was destroyed. . . so what happened to Neo? I know I've had virii on my computer, and when I get rid of them, my computer environment is still here.

As far as a continuation, I've also had repeat infection by a virus on my computer (even after destroying it on my own). Maybe the machines will simply re-install Smith into the Matrix environment. . .

I forget where I was going with all this, but at least it's fun to think about.

Yes, (+1) + (-1) = 0

That sounds very logical, ... and official. I'm not surprised...

But do you think Morpheus will be satisfied with the "official version"? Think of the dialogue he had with Ballard in the sewer-maintenance room(?) in M2:

Quote:

Ballard: Bullshit, you're asking for one of us to disobey a direct order. Morpheus: That's right, I am. But we well know that the reason most of us are here is because of our affinity for disobedience. ... Ballard: Goddamn it, Morpheus, you ain't never gonna change.

We (who are liberated from the Matrix, or think we are) have received this official version (Neo is dead) for having something to disobey! ... Well yes, Morpheus did feel used by another system of control, but he also knows that his dreams, at the end of the day, really did come true after all.

I believe something is telling him that his role and place in the whole story is not yet finished. Through Dreams Morpheus became acquainted with several levels of reality and its mechanisms. I believe he will again begin to understand other realities, this "other system of control" and he will even begin to transcend his own human existence (just as he transcended his matrix existence once before). This means that even if he was presented with Neo's dead body, Morpheus would know that that is not the whole picture, that it wouldn't tell the whole story.

So yes, Neo is dead !
... but let me ask, in which system of control is this true?


/z

true, morpheus is realizing all new controls, as the merrovingian sed...u were told 2 come here, so you did...causuality...but i dont think that control is the rite word for ur question. u want the word reality. u wanna ask in which reality is neo dead.

also, 4 silver zero, that wuzint dues ex machina sendin anythin into neo. he wuzint disenfecting him, he wuzint electrocuting him, he wuzint doing anything. that wuz neo. becuz he now had such...an affinity 4 disobedience...he altered his death in the matrix alone, and created the annihilation through neutralization.


AM I THE ONLY ONE WHO SEES THE SIMILARITY OF THE DESTRUCTION OF SMITH AND NEO AND THE WORLD AROUND UR VERY HEAD?

Please elaborate on the similarity you see. Strangely, the discussions in these forums seldom bring any points on how the Matrix story have bearing on our world, or how we perceive or act in the world.

Your observation could be very interesting.

If you're comfortable about it please tell us what you see in the twin destruction!

/z

zynxamek wrote:

Please elaborate on the similarity you see. Strangely, the discussions in these forums seldom bring any points on how the Matrix story have bearing on our world, or how we perceive or act in the world. Your observation could be very interesting. If you're comfortable about it please tell us what you see in the twin destruction! /z

ya ur rite, connections r rarely shown

well i wont elaborate. u gotta figure most of it out urself utherwise its pritty meaningless. just another sentence on another forum on another site on the internet in a computer all from ones and zeros, +s and -s, opens and closes.

i will tell u that, once u think about it (if u figure it out), its kinda obvious. in a way. otherwise, not so much.

and dont go all " yah rite" and " wut the hell" on me

Quote:

u gotta figure most of it out urself utherwise its pritty meaningless.

That is so true!

I respect those who think.

So now I better respect myself about giving +1 -1 some real thought !


/z