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I have just read a new theory in x-matrix.net..., which makes much sense to me.
The Oracle wanted to change the process. To do this, she told Trinity that she was going to fall in love with the One and told her chief (Morpheus) that he was going to find the ONE. This theory tells that the Oracle used the cookies and candies to recode programs. When Trinity kissed Neo, the program inside Neo activated. Then, in M2, Seraph tells Neo that the oracle has gained enemies. The fact that Agent Smith appears just after the Oracle has gone and that the Merovingian is looking for her proof this. Also, before that the Oracle needed no bodyguard. Anyway, this theory tells that the programs have seen the Oracle's intentions, so they are looking for her. Neo tells his dream to the Oracle, and when he says that he doesn't see Trinity die, she knows her plan has worked. Neo's love for Trinity will make him disrupt the normal process and go back to the Matrix to save him.

But then, this theory say that Neo has powers outside the Matrix because there's a Matrix-within-the-Matrix.

I like this theory until it reaches the matrix within the matrix idea, which I hate.

What do you think about this?

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It's possible except for the forbidden theory, which I hate.

I haven't even considered the fact the Oracle may have been the one who created the original prophecy of the one.

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The Oracle is responsible for alot. Not everything.

It is true- the Oracle is primarily responsible for the Revolution which the Matrix is currently undergoing. She saw the need for change and therefore did things differently this time around. First, she made sure that a strong bond was created between Neo and Trinity- so that when the time came at the Architect's chamber, Neo would choose not to reload the Matrix. I also believe that she is responsible for Neo understanding his opposite- Smith- more than the previous Ones understood their opposite.

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This theory tells that the Oracle used the cookies and candies to recode programs. When Trinity kissed Neo, the program inside Neo activated.


This is where I (and practically everyone) disagrees. It is possible that the cookies and candy do contain code. We are not certain of that. We are also not certain what this code would do. But we are definitely certain that the code does not `awaken' the One program in Neo. That is proposterous. Neo was always the One. His belief and his bond with Trinity is what lead him to believe that he is not really dead and can be the One.

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Neo tells his dream to the Oracle, and when he says that he doesn't see Trinity die, she knows her plan has worked.


Yes. She sees now that Trinity does not die. That means Neo will choose the door towards Trinity. This means- so far, her plan is working. But she still has other things to help Neo with in Revolutions- such as telling him about his newfound connection to the Source and its repurcussions, and about his opposite- Smith. So at this point the Oracle doesn't know how things will turn out totally. That is why she only says `You've made a believer out of me'.

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But then, this theory say that Neo has powers outside the Matrix because there's a Matrix-within-the-Matrix.


Nope.

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Ok, I understand what you say,and it makes much sense to me.
But could you tell me why you think Neo has powers outside the Matrix? I havent figured out an intelligent answer to this.

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There is an explanation of Neo's powers in the real world. Like so many ideas in the trilogy, the explanation can be taken on so many levels- a technical computer level, a broader systems theory level, a mythological level, a spiritual level, a philosophical level etc.

Basically its all about the Source. The Source is what runs everything in the machine world. The Source is the Infinite God. It runs the Matrix. Neo also came from the Source, figuratively speaking. Because Neo's powers affect the Matrix, they also lead all the way back to the Source, because the Source spawned the Matrix and well, Neo. Neo however didn't realize this connection with the Source until he encountered different aspects of the machine world at the end of Reloaded. He went to the Architect's chamber (a separate program) and returned- somthing the previous Ones never did. This probably helped awaken his connection to the Source. That is when he `felt' the sentinels and destroyed them. However, this was too much for his mind/code to understand at the time so he fell in a coma. He understood his connection after talking to the Oracle.

This is a connection which he can only feel with the Source. How is Neo in the Trainstation without being jacked in? Its a wireless connection. His mind/code can connect to the Source-network without the use of the head-plug. Try fitting an everyday internet analogy into this. With this connection to the Source, he can see and feel the machine world. He can even destroy sentinels.

The best comprehensive explanation of Neo's powers in the real world which I have seen is offered by Inevitability on these forums. Here is what he wrote-

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Morpheus: This is my ship, the Nebuchadnezzar. It's a hovercraft. This is the main deck. This is the core where we broadcast our pirate signal and hack into the Matrix.

A person that is jacked in is connected to the ship; the ship sends a broadcast, which has no physical connection to the Matrix.

Morpheus: The pill you took is part of a trace program. It's designed to disrupt your input/output carrier signal so we can pinpoint your location. (Carrier signals are used in broadcasting)

I think this along with all the other forms of interaction that we see take place within the Matrix i.e. uploading weapons, needed programs etc, reveals that the Matrix operates on a broadcasting basis’s maybe a bit like television or radio, but obviously much more advanced.

The fact that it can be ‘hacked’ into without a direct connection seems to confirm this.

Also we know the ship has to rise to ‘broadcasting depth’. This is still a considerable distance from the surface and from where the bodies in the pods are situated. From this distance the Matrix code is received as we can clearly see it being displayed on monitors within the ship. How?

The Matrix is a wireless broadcast.

Although its participants are physically connected at the back of the head, what facilitates communication is wireless technology. How else could outsiders both broadcast their ‘pirate signal’ and view the contents within the Matrix if this were not so?


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Carrier signals are used in broadcasting to quite literally ‘carry’ information on a certain frequency. You tune into a TV/ radio station frequency and the data that is received is converted into sound/picture etc.

Now the bodies in the Matrix have technology within them that generate input/output carrier signals as already mentioned. It seems reasonable to imagine their

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is 'carried' on these signals. When a person dies in the Matrix that signal stops being generated. I noticed this after Trinity’s death in reloaded from the monitor in the ship; it says ‘lost carrier signal’. It’s also how we see Neo’s location determined by disruption of it in M1. Hence why Neo experiences strange goings on – the mirror etc.

Although the primary signal is generated from within the individual, it may need amplification to facilitate transmission across the Matrix in general. However, this story is set in the future and we should not let our imagination limit the scope and sensitivity of technology the AI may have developed.

Could we then imagine that the ‘plug’ at the back of the head could possibly be likened to the plug in the back of a TV system that connects to an Antenna and so receives the signals? But again, obviously much more advanced. Interestingly they are long spikes that are inserted – Antenna?

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When a tv aerial is plugged in a perfect picture is seen, but when disconnected, sometimes a poor picture can still be achieved if a strong enough signal is present.

Although the Matrix transmission is primarily connected by using specific hardware i.e. spike/antenna and the neural transmitter/receiver in the head set to receive its particular broadcast, it may be possible other signals outside the Matrix, also broadcast over ‘air’ might have an affect on the neural equipment were it to be so ‘attuned’ or set up.


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Now, lets recall what happens with Neo and those Sentinels at the end of reloaded...

After the warning siren sounds to alert the Nebuchadnezzar of the presence of the Sentinels, we see the crew studying the hologram scan of the Sentinels. Neo, to the others amazement can perceive it’s a bomb.

We then see them fleeing the wreckage. Now we see the sentinels moving in, and then ‘hang’ in mid air, looking for activity. This I find interesting and makes me think a great deal about how they ‘Look’ or scan. We know a large part of this function is based on detection of electrical activity, as all electrical devices have to be disabled to evade their detection. They also are in some form of ‘radio’ contact (broadcast) with the Source (Oracle: ‘the Source…that’s what you felt when you touched those sentinels.).

As they are ‘hanging’ and possibly increasing the amplitude of their scanning frequencies searching for activity, we see Neo and crew climbing upwards and away to attempt escape.

Now this is interesting:
Neo’s head is facing backwards toward where the sentinels are; he’s also gaining a little more height as he climbs. We then see him stop dead in his tracks, like he’s just picked something up. He then says ‘something different. I can feel them’. In that moment we also see the sentinels respond, turning and rushing towards him.

Is this a reasonable start to explaining how Neo is still in some form of connection with the Source? He may possibly recognise its frequencies, and thus be able to tune into it, especially as we know he already has a special relationship to the Source.

Imagining the ‘AI’s’ technological equipment within him helps me understand how it could be contributory to ‘Altering His Consciousness’ and gaining a perception to the Source’s signal in the real world. This signal would almost certainly be broadcast widely within the Machine world and Neo may well be able to receive it more or less, depending on his distance from it.


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Thinking about Neo’s experience in technical terms when he ‘Touches the Source’, could be likened to an overload of signal that he receives as the sentinels close in and he and the Source recognise each others presence in the real world and everything kind of goes ‘bang’.

Surly this is reasonable enough to explain his trauma that could effectively of ‘blown his mind’ and left him in a state of overload, with his psyche in some kind of subconscious connection to the Signal. Thus resulting in his Coma or ‘limbo’ (Mobil Ave). Don’t forget its not the Matrix.


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Also would this explain how Neo can ‘see’ the sources energy in the real world? His brain receiving the source signal/code, via his converted neural receiver etc. If I remember rightly that’s all that he can see. He doesn’t see Trinity or the Ship etc. He can see Smith, but smith/program’s code/signal may be emanating from banes neural transmitter?


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Oracle: The power of the One extends beyond this world. It reaches from here all the way back to where it came from
Neo: Where?
Oracle: The Source. That's what you felt…etc

So Neo has this connection with the Source all along. He develops it in the Matrix and after the Arc encounter and the power of Love with Trinity, the connection has intensified. He can now feel the Source’s energy/presence all the more, and I believe the Source can now feel him more too.

Bang! An explosion of cosmic emotions!

It’s beginning to hit them like a Hammer!

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I understood, thanks

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In the animatrix shorts the boy is playing in the snow then he is going home sees mom & dad who turn into agents and suddenly the changes happens and then he is in a pod. I believe that was neo he was already plugged into the matrix growing etc. He was somehow chosen to carry some kind of code from the source and that code was later accessed by him as he did as the oracle said "know thyself". For example you can own a game or other software and not know all of the features on it until you play it or run it. As each run of the Matrix played out Neo became more aware of what he could do.

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That wasn't Neo. It was probably the 1st One. But not Neo. Neo cannot live for hundreds of years. He is the 6th One.

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This has been mine and several other people's theoey since I saw the movies. Except the M in an M part, but nodbody really believes that. Do they? So yes, I agree.

Flip a coin. Choose heads or tails but, if you knew every variable, there would be no choice, only an answer. That is how the Architect works.
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how do we know that someone can't live in a pod for hundreds of years?

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Jose208 wrote:


But then, this theory say that Neo has powers outside the Matrix because there's a Matrix-within-the-Matrix.


Aarrgh! no.... Thumbdown

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yup yup....hehe

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This has been mine and several other people's theoey since I saw the movies. Except the M in an M part, but nodbody really believes that. Do they? So yes, I agree.


No one in their right mind believes in the Meta-Matrix theory anymore.

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how do we know that someone can't live in a pod for hundreds of years?


Because we are not told so in the plot. So we can't assume anything like that. Hell, aliens could have built the Matrix, but we're never told that either- so we dismiss it.

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