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I've decided to start a post where we can all post various articles and interviews that can't be viewed anywhere online. The idea is that we'll be able to come here and read articles from magazines etc from other countries that we would never otherwise have been able to see..

I'll start us off with a John Gaeta interview from the December 2003 Empire... enjoy!

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Sod the Architect, meet the real creator of The Matrix, FX Genius John Gaeta.

Is it true that The Matrix was shut down during pre-production?

Yes, there was one time in 1996 when they shut us down. The Wachowskis were untested directors, except for Bound, and The Matrix was completely incomprehensible to the studio people. They were also scared about how big the effect budget was getting. So they got cold feet and we were shut down and I thought, "Well of course, it all seemed a little too good to be true." So I went back to supervising work on What Dreams May Come during what became our six-month "hiatus". Ultimately it took half a year and $150,000 to complete a 15-second proof-of-concept, 'Bullet Time' test. Larry and Andy did a great job of selling the concept and on the very first viewing of the test it was obvious that nothing had ever been done like that.

Did the test prepare you for production?

Anytime a Bullet Time shot occurred, [the Wachowskis] would shoot their way out of the scene with something conventional to get them out of the scene in case we failed. We were worried the whole time it wasn't going to work, but of course it did.

What was the toughest technological challenge for the sequels?

The Holy Grail of computer graphics for the last decade has been the virtual human. When you combine it with the world the human happens to be in, you're taking the ultimate summit to reach. And once you're there, almost anything is possible in film. A lot of people say, "You know almost anything is possible in film these days." They think so, but without actually having to experience the anguish and difficulties of actually constructing any one of these things - it's a different story.

Could you explain 'virtual cinema'?

Virtual cinema is essentially virtual reality - it's a simulation, but a creatively designed one. It's not animating or falsely creating an event, it's using material which has been sourced in some fashion from the real world and then creating footage from it on a computer. In the case of the Burly Brawl, it was just impossible to stage that fight in the real world from a choreography standpoint. So, we captured the performance of Hugo and Keanu and placed them upon dynamically moving bodies, which were accurately based on their real bodies. That nine-minute fight scene was, like, three-and-a-half years of work.

Did you find yourself battling machines a lot?

Sure, computer crashes and that shit happened all the time. The technology was one thing, but really you have to convince the people to keep going. This job is about 90% motivation.

So, stress became a major factor to manage?

At a certain point, you have to leave the building. We worked late with the brothers all the time and then they worked for the rest of the night after we went home. There were plenty of people who worked 100-hour weeks. But a lot of the artists are in a glass cage of sorts and can't see the overall film. It's different for me because I'm aware of the big picture and driven by the big picture.

Are there any shots you wish you could change?

I absolutely hate looking back on those cheesy, '80s-looking shots of cops morphing into agents. The last shot of the first movie was a big turning point, because we disagreed on it. I tried to discourage [the Wachowskis] from doing Neo flying into the sky - because at the time I didn't understand its significance. But thank God they did. We had a provocative conversation about how we could really screw things up if we started a bunch of cheese-ball Superman stuff. They were like "Then we gotta make it super-cool". But let's face it, 90% of the attraction to the visual effects of all The Matrix films has to do with their phenomenal concept and the fluidity with which they intertwine with the rest of the story and photography. There are lots of better effects than our effects in other movies, but a lot of them unfortunately have weak ideas behind them.

What was it like making two movies simultaneously?

When you're doing two movies at the same time but one movie comes out before the other, the one that comes out second tends to get second-class treatment if you're not careful. For Revolutions Larry, Andy and myself spent a lot of time at [effects house] ESC Entertainment on a day-to-day basis, overseeing the layout and direction of everything. This rarely happens because they usually have so much to do. There were aspects of Revolutions that were literally like fighting a guerilla ground war - we had to attack problems together in order to even conceive of any way of completing some of these shots in time. We had shots that were literally 800 layers, and if one thing in one layer is off, it can mess up the entire shot. So, we were all in a room for the last two months going over every single shot in this battle scene which we call The Siege. Going over every aspect of what was important, from the creature animation, to the destruction and how much destruction we thought we needed. We all merged. It ended as it began. In the end we went back to ESC to make sure the content that was most important to us was done in the exact way we wanted to do it.

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WHAT NEXT FOR THE MATRIX MOB?

KEANU REEVES

The One is switching black coats for white in his next two projects, first alongside Jack Nicholson in the comedy Something's Gotta Give, and then as an orthodontist in Thumbsucker. After his medical dabblings he'll play the title role in Constantine, a comic book movie about a crime-solving occultist operating in the realm of demons and angels.

LAURENCE FISHBURNE

Fishburne's next project will be Scheherazade, a crime caper directed by Michael Apted. Following that he will write, direct and start in the Alchemist, an adaptation of the Paul Coelho novel about a man on a journey of personal discovery during the Spanish inquisition.

CARRIE-ANNE MOSS

After the upcoming thriller, Suspect Zero, it seems Trinity will be hanging up her boots for the forseeable future to spend time being a mother to her newly-born son.

HUGO WEAVING

Post-Return Of The King, Agent Smith is AWOL from the film release list. Instead he is treading the boards in Tom Stoppard's The Real Thing, in Sydney.

JOEL SILVER

Next up is Alien Vs. Predator, followed by two comic book adaptations - the ultra violent Lobo, then Adrenalynn, potentially starring Christina Ricci as a Russian half-human, half-cyborg programmed to destroy America.

THE WACHOWSKI BROTHERS

No news. Even their plans to produce a Conan sequel are no more after Arnie went into politics.

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Matrix Virtual Theatre
Wachowski Brothers Transcript
Nov. 6, 1999

Welcome to the first live Virtual Theatre presentation in the world! Tonight you'll be able to watch The Matrix with special guests Andy and Larry Wachowski, the creators of the film.

WachowskiBros: Hi!

ILoveNatPortman says: Can you give any information on the sequels, or even confirm their existence?
WachowskiBros: Yes, we are working on them right now. Well, we would be working on them right now except we have to be here in the chat room right now, LOL

blindrocket says: Do you practice Martial Arts?
WachowskiBros: No, we do not, but we watch a lot of Kung Fu movies.

AgentMartin says: Why didn't you both do the commentary on the DVD, time restraints?
WachowskiBros: That's a two-part answer. Part one is that we believe that film is a collaborative media, that's why we never take a film credit. We think the other artists who help create a film are important and interesting, and for people who want to understand the process of filmmaking. And the second part is, that we were too tired.

Hiryu says: Which Anime inspired you the most and why?
WachowskiBros: We liked Ghost in the Shell and the Ninja Scroll and Akira in anime. One thing that they do that we tried to bring to our film was a juxtaposition of time and space in action beats.

AgentMartin says: Is there anything in The Matrix which you weren't too happy with; wished you could have done differently?
WachowskiBros: That would require the rest of the chat to answer! But, we'll answer that in general we're fairly happy with the way it turned out.

blindrocket says: Would you consider yourselves computer nerds?
WachowskiBros: You got the second part right, just nerds! LOL

AgentMartin says: Were you excited about DVD as a medium for your movies to go to the homes of the masses?
WachowskiBros: As a technology, DVD is an exciting medium. But like many technologies, it still needs to be developed by the users of the technology.

Enigma says: What is the role or faith in the movie? Faith in oneself first and foremost - or in something else?
WachowskiBros: Hmmmm...that is a tough question! Faith in one's self, how's that for an answer?

Peter says: Will there be a directors' cut of The Matrix with any deleted scenes or out-takes?
WachowskiBros: Nope, nope! Because we were pretty happy with the way it turned out.

AgentMartin says: The two of you seemed to have a great relationship together for the making of this movie. Have you always been very close?
WachowskiBros: We just met actually. Tonight!

Sentinel says: What comic books inspired the look of the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: The largest influence from the comic book world on the actual design would be the art of Geof Darrow.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene of Fed Express delivery man giving package to Neo in the office cubicle:
This is the very first scene we shot in the movie, on our first day, this scene that's playing right now, the scene with the FedEx guy. 18 set-ups in one day.

Hiryu says: If you get the chance to make a Matrix spin-off TV series will you?
WachowskiBros: Maybe. Especially if it could be in anime.

blindrocket says: Which one of you is the older brother?
WachowskiBros: I am.

Revenge says: What did the humans do to scorch the sky?
WachowskiBros: We'll answer that question later.

larrikin says: How long did it take to film in Sydney? Was the entire movie shot in Sydney?
WachowskiBros: 118 days, and yes. Playing on the DVD Now: Scene of Neo on the ledge of the office building, trying to escape from the agents:
Actually, this is Keanu Reeves actually getting out onto an actual ledge, without a stunt man. He does this entire scene without a stunt man, and it's 34 floors up.

hokeyboy says: Were the filmmakers influenced by Alex Proyas's similarly-themed "Dark City"?
WachowskiBros: No, but we thought it was very strange that Australia came to have three films associated with it that were all about the nature of reality -- Dark City, The Truman Show and The Matrix.

Enjoythesilence says: How would you say Bound and the Matrix are similar?
WachowskiBros: Both films examine the idea of an individual searching for their true self while attempting to escape the box that we often make of our lives.

calla says: What do the time 9:18 and the date 9/18 signify? Is this a personal reference?
WachowskiBros: That's my wife's birthday (said Andy).

Inge says: How long did the lobby scene take to shoot?
WachowskiBros: It took 12 days to shoot the lobby scene.

Inge says: Which scene are you guys most happy with? Favorite? For me it was when NEO was on his way to Morpheus the first time.
WachowskiBros: If you're talking about the pill scene, that's our favorite too.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene where the bug was being put into Neo's stomach by the Agents
That was a prosthetic stomach, by the way.

Hiryu says: Did the movie Johnny Mnemonic play a role in casting Keanu Reeves for the role of Neo?
WachowskiBros: No.

Sealouse says: Why was it filmed in Australia?
WachowskiBros: Cost.

calla says: There are quite a few hidden messages in the movie that I notice the more I watch it. Can you tell me about how many there are?
WachowskiBros: There are more than you'll ever know.

Inge says: Did you guys take a nice holiday after the film opened? You deserve it!
WachowskiBros: Thank you very much! And we did.

Sentinel says: What do you think of the fans of the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: We love them.

ToiletCommando says: Are you prepared to become legends?
WachowskiBros: Legends of what?

MadMatt says: You guys BIG Jackie Chan fans?
WachowskiBros: Yes, we love a lot of Hong Kong cinema. Jackie Chan in Drunken Master II is fantastic.

TheTrinityACMXCL says: What about the animals in the Matrix? Are they real animals or just computer-generated images?
WachowskiBros: Sadly, they are all computer-generated images.

ToiletCommando says: Is it true that you got some of your ideas from the Vertigo comic The Invisibles?
WachowskiBros: We do enjoy that comic, but no.

ThedrickFel says: What exactly was the mirror made of? Was it the same stuff they injected into Morpheus? Why silver?
WachowskiBros: The mirror is actually a mirror. When Neo sees it it's a hallucination, but it's the direct result of the pill Morpheus had given Neo. Reflections in general are a significant theme in the film. The ideas of worlds within worlds. The idea of the reflection, the two Neo's in Morpheus glasses represents the two lives that Neo is leading. In the left lens, we see the blue pill and Thomas Anderson, and in the right lens, we see the red pill and Neo.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene where Neo is breaking out of the pod
WachowskiBros: We're pretty happy with the way this scene turned out. Keanu did some amazing work in this scene which included six hours every morning of prosthetic makeup. And he had to sit in a freezing cold vat of goo for another six hours.

AgentMartin says: Are you surprised by the amount of Internet life that The Matrix has spawned, fan sites etc?
WachowskiBros: Surprised? Yes, very, surprised. We are very, completely stupefied by the fan response to the film.

Jose says What kind of drug does the red pill contain?
WachowskiBros: It's like a computer virus that's meant to disrupt Neo's life signal so that they can pinpoint where Neo's body is in the power plant. Playing on the DVD Now:Scene where all the acupuncture needles were in Neo and they were rebuilding his muscles
I was very happy with the Don Davis score in this scene, that included his use of a boy soprano, which I thought was very eerie. Don had a great idea, to use a human voices choir in scenes like the power plant and scenes on the Neb to sort of suggest the plight of humanity.

Renxo says: Which is your favorite flick?
WachowskiBros: Too many to answer.

unholyTrinity says: When did you think about making this movie for the very first time? Was there a kind of special inspiration given by any event, occasion or something like that?
WachowskiBros: It all happened very rapidly. We were working on another comic book, and a friend asked us if we had any ideas for a new series. And we said no, and then we just started talking about a couple of ideas that we had been working on in connection to cyberpunk fiction. And, a whole idea sort of exploded, over a period of about three days.

Renxo says: Where were you born?
WachowskiBros: Chicago.

Doc says: So, WAS the Japanese animation Megazone 23 an inspiration for the Matrix? The stories seem very similar.
WachowskiBros: I've never seen it. But send us a copy, it sounds good.

theman says: How did you guys come up with the idea for The Matrix? Playing video games? Shock therapy?
WachowskiBros: No, designer drugs.

Starr22 says: Are all the religious symbolism and doctrine throughout this movie intentional, or not?
WachowskiBros: Most of it is intentional. One of the things we tried to do with the Neb for when we were shooting "in the real world" was use long lenses to separate the humans from the backgrounds, as opposed to when we shot the Matrix we used short lenses to place the humans in specific deep spaces. We also tinted all of the lights blue in the "real world" and green in the Matrix.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene where Morpheus and Neo are discussing the scorched earth in the Matrix
WachowskiBros: There have been many questions about the history that Morpheus suggests in this scene, and we have written the history in a fair amount of detail, and we often have hoped that if we did an anime series, we would tell the story of this history and the story of the first One. Somebody asked us about the liquification of humans. That's what they feed the people in the pods, the dead people are liquefied and fed to the living people in the pods. Always recycle! It's a statement on recycling.

Renxo says: Do you reflect your personality on Neo's character? Were you/are you...hackers?
WachowskiBros: We're probably not good enough to call ourselves hackers, like NEO.

White_Beezatch says: Will there ever be a Matrix video game?
WachowskiBros: Hopefully yes. If things work out the way we want them to, the video game will be released when the next movie comes out, and it will actually have something to do with the movie.

DrBasher says: Who came up with the wardrobe, because Trinity's outfits rocked? So did Morpheus' and Neo's. Was it part of the original script?
WachowskiBros: We described her as a woman in black leather in the script. But, mainly the costumes were designed by Kym Barrett.

Chandler says: Since you have worked with the same composer and cinematographer (the great Bill Pope) did you find that it was easier to think ahead about a visual or musical style for the film?
WachowskiBros: Did Bill Pope ask this question?
No, but it's easier to execute them. You develop a shorthand language with people you've worked with before. You tell Bill "We need a 'B' move", and he knows what to do.

pomru says: My friends and I are wondering what anime you showed the producers to get this movie green-lighted?
WachowskiBros: If only it had been that easy. We had to draw the entire movie and Keanu Reeves had to agree to do the movie before anybody green-lit it.

DrBasher says: Also, the special effects rocked, was the script conceived knowing the special effects were available, or were the special effects conceived to make the script possible?
WachowskiBros: Some of the special effects had to be invented, mainly Bullet Time.

yellerdog says: What are the odds of the Wachowskis directing a "straight up" live action adaptation of an anime?
WachowskiBros: I thought we did.

DrBasher says: How long did it take to come up with the script, because it's great?
WachowskiBros: We wrote the script before we had even directed Bound. And had been working on it up until the time of production.

TGee says: When did you first think you would have such a huge hit on your hands?
WachowskiBros: It kind of was like a giant art house hit, in that it just kept going and going and people kept talking about it, and there was never a moment where people were like "it's huge." People liked it, and it just kept going.

ToiletCommando says: Are you going to do any projects besides the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: Maybe. If we're still alive.

Playing on the DVD Now: Kung-fu training with Morpheus
This is all Keanu (the scene being shown live during the chat), this is Keanu running up the pillar and doing the full airborne 360.

ToiletCommando says: Is it hard to work as brothers? Don't you disagree on everything?
WachowskiBros: Mom flies down to the set every day to settle every one of our arguments.

BigMac says: Rumor has it that Cypher is not dead. Is this true?
WachowskiBros: If you ask Joey Pants, it is. Joey Pants started that rumor.

Playing on the DVD Now: The jump scene where Morpheus jumps from one building to another
WachowskiBros: That shot, where Morpheus jumps up out of frame, we called "The Worst Camera Operator Shot in the World."

garrett says: Isn't it rather ironic that Morpheus and his crew are completely dependent upon technology and computers, the very evils against which they are fighting?
WachowskiBros: Yes!

ooo says: What is The Matrix?
WachowskiBros: About two hours and fifteen minutes long.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene entering the building where they ambushed by agents
WachowskiBros: Those doors are actually made out of wood.

spark says: What made you decide on the green tint for being in the Matrix?
WachowskiBros: It was a whole motif inspired by the phosphorous green of old PCs.

Playing on the DVD Now: Agent training where woman in red dress appears
WachowskiBros: People don't realize how important this scene is. Because we are all staring at the woman in the red dress! There's actually twins and triplets that we hired in that scene. And all of the clothes are based on black and white costumes, like nuns, chefs, brides, sailors. We had the idea that Mouse just doubled people instead of making originals. But we couldn't afford to do it digitally, so we ended up hiring as many doubles, or as many twins, as we could find in Sydney. It was kind of like a bad dream on the set.

grey says: How did you get the money for "The Matrix"?
WachowskiBros: Begged. And the big-hearted Warner Brothers came through.

Stone says: Would you like to direct Jackie Chan?
WachowskiBros: Sure!

Lyn says: Have you guys been approached to direct Batman?
WachowskiBros: Yes, but we thought we'd be busy doing the sequels.

Playing on the DVD Now: Sentinels looking for the Neb and then Cypher with Agent Smith in restaurant
WachowskiBros: We're pretty happy with the way the sentinels turned out. The digital artist that John Gaeta found did some amazing work. Cypher, at the beginning of this scene, is setting up an automated system to allow him to go meet with Agent Smith. By the way, this steak was one of the best steaks we had in Sydney. We got to eat all of the ones that Cypher didn't finish. Several of the cast members actually got sick eating this stuff during this scene.

EZGuest316 says: Could you say a little about the sound design which was terrific such as the slo-mo bullet ripple effects, Foley effects.
WachowskiBros: Dane Davis is a genius. He built all of these sound effects from all kinds of original sounds. He'd put bullets on strings and whirled them around his studio, he digitized raindrops against windowpanes to create the sound of the Matrix code.

JediKnight says: Have you been approached with any sci-fi scripts and do you have plans to do any?
WachowskiBros: Right now, we're focusing just on Matrix 2 and 3.

Freethinker says: Just out of curiosity, do you guys hold to any religious beliefs?
WachowskiBros: Non-denominational.

Astral_Traveler says: How did you choose the music?
WachowskiBros: For the most part, we chose the music ourselves. But we hired a consultant D.J. in LA named Jason Bentley, a musical whiz kid, who had a lot of swell ideas.

JimmyEO971 says: Will Joe Pantoliano be the DeNiro to your Scorsese, the Divine to your John Waters?
WachowskiBros: There is a court order against Joe Pantoliano for coming within 100 feet of us.

biggysmalls says: How many bluescreen/greenscreen shots are in this movie?
WachowskiBros: That's a good question. There are 450 digital effect shots, but green screen? Probably about 125.

wrygrass says: Did ideas from Buddhism influence you in making the film?
WachowskiBros: Yes. There's something uniquely interesting about Buddhism and mathematics, particularly about quantum physics, and where they meet. That has fascinated us for a long time.

gdreams says: Will you use Yeun Woo Ping again?
WachowskiBros: Hell yes!

gtbpitt says: Do you think The Matrix will develop a cult following in the decades to come?
WachowskiBros: We hope it's as big as the Night of the Lepus.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene where Neo and Morpheus enter Oracle's apartment
WachowskiBros: This is my wife (Andy) about to be on the screen here. She comes in right there! Awesome actress!

letmein says: The phrase "paying taxes" comes up a few times. Why?
WachowskiBros: Because we usually couldn't afford to pay ours. It is an examination of what is and is not certain.

Tank says: I am a computer artist and I am very interested in knowing what type of computers and software you used to create the 3D effects?
WachowskiBros: A lot of the guys at Mannex wrote their programs with Softimage. We think.

Wesbran says: Is the title "The Matrix" related to the mitochondrial matrix located in cells; the site of cell respiration, the creation of energy in humans?
WachowskiBros: Like the movie itself, there is a lot of word play, a lot of hidden other meanings, a lot of multiple meanings. Besides that, we also like the definition, the mathematical definition of the use of matrix, or the use of it in terms of a woman's womb.

DVDReporter383 says: Do you surf fan sites? Do you have the time?
WachowskiBros: We've looked at a few. There are some cool ones out there.

virtualMatrix says: What is the significance of Neo eating the Oracle's cookie?
WachowskiBros: There was a piece cut out of the movie that explained the significance more. It's hard to explain.

agunn3 says: Have you ever been told that the Matrix has Gnostic overtones?
WachowskiBros: Do you consider that to be a good thing?

RockyMtnBri says: Any chance of novels being written above and beyond the movie, like Star Wars?
WachowskiBros: Maybe.

Freethinker says: The Matrix was very-well received by critics, as well. Did that surprise you? How much stock do you hold in critics?
WachowskiBros: There were some critics that really didn't like it. Did it surprise us that some liked it? You don't really hold much stock in critics, you tend to make movies for first, yourselves, and second, your audience. And the greatest thing about critics is that sometimes they can help find your audience.

AgentMarr says: What was the thinking behind the use of numbers that can be read both ways like 303 on the hotel door where Neo meets his destiny?
WachowskiBros: Like the wordplay, there's a lot of numbers play in the movie as well.

Mike says: What were your fondest moments while filming The Matrix?
WachowskiBros: Finishing!

Playing on the DVD Now: Where they are trying to escape the agents inside the wall of the building
WachowskiBros: This scene, this set right here, the wet wall, is something like forty-eight feet high, and they are actually really worming their way down with wires. This was a hard stunt.

DVDReporter383 says: Do you surf the net? If so, where do you go?
WachowskiBros: We're everywhere.

linusa says: Do you believe that our world is in some way similar to "The Matrix," that there is a larger world outside of this existence?
WachowskiBros: That is a larger question than you actually might think. We think the most important sort of fiction attempts to answer some of the big questions. One of the things that we had talked about when we first had the idea of The Matrix was an idea that I believe philosophy and religion and mathematics all try to answer. Which is, a reconciling between a natural world and another world that is perceived by our intellect.

godbox says: Confronted with Neo's choice, which would you chose?
WachowskiBros: Blue pill.

Fuchikoma says: What response did you get from established filmmakers upon the Matrix's release? Any unexpected phone calls etc.?
WachowskiBros: We had a lot of wonderful comments.

Lincoln says: What comment do you have to those who say that the Matrix will probably be recognized as the first 21st Century film?
WachowskiBros: Well, first we'd be grateful for the comment. Then we'd have to point out the clerical error that it's in the 20th Century, and not the 21st until 2001.

wrygrass says: Did you do camcorder films or other film practice that helped you direct?
WachowskiBros: No, nothing on video, but we did fiddle around with 16 mm film.

Revenge says: What is the symbolism of all the analog rotary phones?
WachowskiBros: There's a couple of meanings. We liked the analog nature of older technology. We liked the suggestion of old original phone hackers. It sort of suggested the big Rube Goldberg device that's in the mirror scene.

Scene Playing on the DVD Now:
WachowskiBros: That's the largest translight ever constructed (interesting fact). That is actual mercury in the hypodermic needle, by the way. It was considered one of our most dangerous sets, because we had mercury, it had to be poured into the hypodermic needle.

Inge says: What was it like seeing the movie with an audience for the first time?
WachowskiBros: Terrifying.

Stone says: Was the Alice in Wonderland theme just a whim, or do you guys have a big love of it?
WachowskiBros: Big fan! It is a brilliant book. Many of the themes we tried to echo in The Matrix.

Orange_Crush says: I noticed that The Matrix is currently #30 in the IMDB top 250. That's quite an achievement. How do you feel about being classified with other legendary films and filmmakers?
WachowskiBros: Lucky.

Wesbran says: What happens to all the gadgets in this movie after it is done filming?
WachowskiBros: Most of them are so fragile they break as soon as you're done filming. And Joel Silver collects the rest.

Sinclair says: Why were they only able to jack in through hard lines, but still able to communicate over cell?
WachowskiBros: Good question! Mostly we felt that the amount of information that was being sent into the Matrix required a significant portal. Those portals, we felt, were better described with the hard lines rather than cell lines. We also felt that the rebels tried to be invisible when they hacked, that's why all the entrances and exits were sort of through decrepit and low traffic areas of the Matrix.

The12thMonkey says: The guy that played the lead agent was worryingly convincing, did it take a long time to find him?
WachowskiBros: Yes, actually, and that was one of the fortuitous things about going to Sydney, is that it led us to find Hugo.

wrygrass says: You said in an interview that string theory might show up in the film, did it?
WachowskiBros: Maybe in the next one, I (Larry) have just now begun to understand string theory.

XM-whatismyname says: What's your favorite music?
WachowskiBros: We love all music.

ZEUS says: How did you finally chose the names of the characters?
WachowskiBros: They were all chosen carefully, and all of them have multiple meanings.

Renxo says: How many times have you seen the movie yourselves?
WachowskiBros: More than everyone.

Qualopec says: How hard was it to get the kind of budget you wanted for this film?
WachowskiBros: We had to go across the world to secure that budget.

wrygrass says: Do you have any funny stories from filming you would like to share?
WachowskiBros: That newspaper had to be actually a giant piece of metal with newspaper glued to metal pages. How's that for funny?

Lincoln says: What is your fave line in the movie?
WachowskiBros: "Dodge this." And, "There is no spoon." We also liked that one.

Mahy says: Do all of the things that happen in the Matrix have some computer-based analogy...or did you just do some of it because it was cool?
WachowskiBros: Yes. We like to try and pack as much stuff as we can in when we do a movie. So some of the stuff we do relates to the narrative, and some of the stuff we do because we like.

biggysmalls says: Do you like Planet Of The Apes?
WachowskiBros: Yes, love it! "Get your damned dirty hands off, you stinkin ape!"

Enigma says: The character Neo...Is Neo his real self and Thomas Anderson who he is "required" to be?
WachowskiBros: Neo is Thomas Anderson's potential self.

Job says: Do you realize that your new ideas have changed the way people will see movies in the future?
WachowskiBros: Really?

Playing on the DVD Now: Describing Bullet Time
WachowskiBros: The idea of Bullet Time came about because we wanted to shoot an event at incredibly high speed which means slow motion, but move the camera at regular speed, which is impossible. The first theory for Bullet Time involved a rocket camera that was abandoned for safety purposes. Then, John Gaeta suggested a digital solution. Which brought it to the screen.

keanucarrie says: Which scene was the hardest to shoot?
WachowskiBros: The subway fight scene. It was incredibly cold and everyone was very sick and it went 10 days over schedule. And was particularly brutal to the two actors.

Dogma says: Have there been any discussions with comic book companies to publish a monthly-type of comic based on the Matrix, not just an adaptation, perhaps with Darrow illustrating it?
WachowskiBros: We're going to release another series of stories on the web site. Geof Darrow is going to illustrate a couple more short stories written by Andy and I. And, we've toyed with the idea of continuing the story in comic book form when the movies are finished.

Trinity303 says: Do you like John Woo's movies and style of shooting scenes of action?
WachowskiBros: John Woo is a genius.

tonka says: What do you think about Star Wars?
WachowskiBros: It was one of the first films that we went berserk over when we were kids.

kr says: How long had you been working on writing the story and was there re-writing going on while filming?
WachowskiBros: There was not much rewriting, a little bit.

WachowskiBros: Somebody asked us about the street names in the movie and all of them are significant. They are all based on places in Chicago.

Santayana says: I love the casting of this film. Specifically, Hugo Weaving. Why him?
WachowskiBros: We had seen the movie "Proof" and we flew Hugo into L.A. to meet and he did a phenomenal reading. And was willing to undergo the four months of training. He's one of the finest actors we've ever worked with.

Hiryu says: Did you ever consider doing a cameo appearance in the movie?
WachowskiBros: We're too ugly!

WachowskiBros: (referring to the DVD) This shot here, the showdown shot, is an homage to Sergio Leone.

joe says: I am amazed by the physical performance. The actors had great training. What do you think?
WachowskiBros: We're amazed as well. We think all four of them went beyond our expectations.

Revenge says: Any influence from Blade Runner?
WachowskiBros: Blade Runner was a benchmark science fiction film, a masterpiece. Of course there's influence. But we were like the only guys who liked that movie when we saw it, everyone else hated it.

Freethinker says: Did you know right away that it would be a trilogy?
WachowskiBros: We knew we had too much material for one movie.

inkman says: Do you two feel that sci-fi is overlooked in the "Awards" arena?
WachowskiBros: We don't put much credence in the "awards" arena.

WachowskiBros: (referring to the DVD) There are some fantastic stunts in this sequence like THAT one! Both the Australian stunt team and the Hong Kong stunt team worked very well together in this scene.

AgentMartin says: Do you appreciate people dissecting your movie? Do you find it a bit of an honor or does it annoy you a little, especially when the person may have it all wrong?
WachowskiBros: There's not necessarily ever an "all wrong." Because it's about what a person gets out of the movie, what an individual gets out of the movie.

Vindicator says: The whole idea of electronic stimuli of atrophied muscles is great. Did you guys consult any medical experts for accuracy?
WachowskiBros: As a matter of fact, one of our best friends is a doctor. He was the first guy to show us our first autopsy.

Playing on the DVD Now: Scene where Neo runs into the outdoor market trying to escape the Agents
WachowskiBros: Watermelons, that was an homage to Gallagher. On the TV, when Neo goes by there's an episode of "The Prisoner."

Action says: Am I really watching the movie right now, or am I in...The Matrix?
WachowskiBros: Take another blue pill and call me tomorrow.

rawdogg says: Why did you never show Zion?
WachowskiBros: We're saving it for Matrix 2.

Nebelis says: What other projects did the cameraman work on and where did you find him?
WachowskiBros: If you mean Bill Pope, he did our first movie "Bound" and the masterpiece "Army of Darkness."

Pill says: Do you plan to write any books about this?
WachowskiBros: There is a "Making Of" book that's coming out later this year.

virtualMatrix says: Do you believe one day, intelligent machines with AI will actually rule the world?
WachowskiBros: Yes. If they don't already!

AcesAreWild says: Who Invented Bullet Time photography?
WachowskiBros: The original concept was ours, but the technical execution was from a company called Mannex.

AgentMartin says: Many take the Make of the Neb, "Mark 3, V.11" and quote it from the Bible "Mark 3:11". Was this intended or is it just the make and model of the Neb and nothing more subliminal than that?
WachowskiBros: The Nebuchadnezzar is indeed a Biblical reference, from the book of Daniel.

linusa says: Will you ever tell the history of the Matrix in a novel?
WachowskiBros: Maybe.

Renxo says: Are you doing any personal presentations, anywhere?
WachowskiBros: No.

NIKKI says: Who unplugged Morpheus and told him about The Matrix?
WachowskiBros: We hope to tell that story in another medium one day.

Neotek says: How much of an influence was William Gibson in the production and design of this movie?
WachowskiBros: We're big fans of William Gibson's work.

Ronin says: Your movie has many and varied connections to myths and philosophies, Judeo-Christian, Egyptian, Arthurian, and Platonic, just to name those I've noticed. How much of that was intentional?
WachowskiBros: All of it.

WachowskiBros: Sorry we could only get to 1 percent of your questions. We do appreciate all of your support. And we'll see you in three years.

WHV: Well that's it. Thanks for participating in The Matrix Virtual Theatre event. We'd also like to thank Larry and Andy Wachowski for spending the evening with us.

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Josh Horowitz: Larry and Andy Wachowski have directed and written the new film BOUND starring Jennifer Tilly and Gina Gershon. The film tells the story of Corky and Violet and a suitcase filled with two million dollars and it is generating much talk in the film world. I am pleased to welcome the Wachoski brothers. Larry, Andy, welcome.

LARRY AND ANDY WACHOSKI: (IN PERFECT UNISON) Thank you.

JH: This could be considered your big break. It’s your first film that’s generating some press. How difficult was it to get going on this project?

LW: It had it’s difficult moments where things sort of seemed like they would fall apart forever particularly when we were trying to cast it. But as far as actually getting someone behind us, I mean Dino [De Laurentiis] really liked us after he made a lot of money on ASSASSINS.

AW: We were his good friends after that.

LW: We had told him we were interested in directing a movie and he’s a guy who has made a career out of giving people their first break and he’s great that way. He asked us what the story was about and we were a little nervous about telling him the story because he’s sort of this old Italian patriarch and we knew it was going to be about lesbians. We were sort of beating around the bush trying to explain it. “There’s a woman and then there’s another woman…” Dino stopped us and was like…(in an Italian accent) “this first woman, she is a lesbian?”

AW: And we were like…uh yeah.

LW: “This second woman…she is a lesbian?”

AW: Um yeah, she was…

LW: Then he claps his hands and says “done we have a deal!”

JH: Yeah, I don’t remember any lesbians in GODZILLA 1985.

LW and AW: LAUGHTER

AW: It was all in the subtext.

LW: It was subtext.

JH: What should a moviegoer going to see BOUND expect to see?

LW: Well, we sort of made it for people who are kind of like us who go to the movies a lot and are generally kind of bored by movies today. We tried to make a movie that was entertaining, that had sex and violence because we
like sex and violence. And that had a lot of deeper intellectual concepts. The whole idea of playing in a genre that is so convention heavy as film noir. It’s like you almost have this dialogue with your audience because they know the conventions and you know they know the conventions. You show them something and they say I know what that is and then you start to twist it and that becomes fun because with a genre like film noir, everyone has these assumptions and expectations. And once all of those things are in place, that’s when you can really start to twist it about and mess around with it. And with BOUND, what we really wanted to do on another level was pull at the conventions. Because you begin to wonder why we have these conventions. Why do these stereotypes exist? What are stereotypes and where do they come from? You use that as the subtext. But that’s all the boring stuff.

JH: What were the problems you encountered in casting the film?

AW: We thought we’d write a good script for women giving them the fun roles that generally men get and that women would be lining up around the block. But that wasn’t the case. I guess they’d get to the sex scene and the script would go flying out their sun-roof right onto highway 10 there.

JH: You have Gina Gershon in this. Was there some ribbing about SHOWGIRLS on the set?

LW and AW: (INCREDULOUSLY) No.

AW: (FACETIOUSLY) No. Not at all. Why would you say that?

JH: Well, I heard it a got a little bit of bad press.

LW: You guys just didn’t understand it.

LAUGHTER

JH: Was Dino De Laurentiis a close collaborator on the project or did he give you guys free reign?

LW: He’s a guy who pretty much lets you do what you want. In the end, when you finish the film, he give his opinions. There are opinions he wants paid attention to.

AW: I mean he’s been in the business for 300 years.

LW: He saw the first week of dailies and he was satisfied that we knew what we were doing and he pretty much left us alone until we were done.

JH: How does an idea like BOUND begin?

LW: Like I said, we really like the genre. People have made a lot of other comparisons but Billy Wilder is really is a heavy influence on BOUND. We felt that film noir was a genre where you could create a really contained story. We knew we wanted to be totally on a set as much as we could to get the kind of style level we were looking for. We had this idea about a woman who you would see on the street and make a host of sexual assumptions and they would all be wrong and that sort of lent itself to this constant idea of surfaces and truth under surfaces.

JH: You guys wrote the screenplay for ASSASSINS starring Sylvester Stallone a few years ago. Was that a good experience for you two?

PAUSE

AW: You’re just trying to get us into trouble!

LAUGHTER

JH: What went wrong on that?

LW: The film was not really based on the screenplay. The one thing that sort of bothered us is that people would blame us for the screenplay and it’s like Richard Donner is one of the few directors in Hollywood that can make whatever movie he wants exactly the way he wants it. No one will stop him and that’s essentially what happened. He brought in Brian Helgeland and they totally rewrote the script. We tried to take our names off of it but the WGA doesn’t let you. So our names are forever there.

JH: How did you guys start collaborating together? According to the press notes you started at age four or something…

LW: We didn’t know how to answer that question in the press thing. I don’t know. We’ve just been hanging out forever together. After college we started a carpentry business. While we were doing that, we wrote some comic books and while we were doing that, we read Roger Corman’s autobiography which was truly inspirational and we decided to try to write a script for a low budget horror movie. We wrote one and that was it.

JH: Was film always ideally what you guys wanted to end up in?

AW: I guess. We’ve always loved going to the movies. We’ve been going to the movies since we were kids. Our mom and dad are big movie fans. They’d take us out on these movie orgys where we’d see sometimes three movies in a day.

JH: How do you two work together? Are you yelling at each other in a room? What’s the process like exactly?

LW: Well, since we know that my ideas are always better we have an understanding in place. That was Andy by the way.

AW: No, that was Larry!

LW: Andy, Andy, Andy! Andy sucks.

JH: But seriously, is it a pretty easy relationship?

LW: You can kind of tell what’s working and what isn’t. We work on part of the script ourselves and then we switch. And we work on each other’s and rewrite each other’s stuff. It sort of works out that way.

JH: I understand you guys wrote a film for PLASTIC MAN. Is this actually going to be made into a film one day?

AW: You never know. For a while there, it looked like it was going to be another ASSASSINS.

LW: Originally they liked the script a lot and then they got a director and he didn’t like the script. I don’t know why directors sign on to these projects and completely rewrite everything but he rewrote it and now I guess he’s not on the project anymore so we’ll see.

JH: Was there a lot of research going to the comic book for that?

LW: We had read the comic book. We sort of thought it might be a funny idea. It’s probably the closest script to a comedy we’ll write. We thought it could be kind of cool. The basic idea we came up with was that he would be an environmentalist, almost like an Earth First-er type guy. The funny scene we thought of that was kind of the start of it all was like he goes to the bathroom after he becomes Plastic Man and his urine is no longer bio-degradable so he like wants to kill himself.

JH: Are your writing styles different? Does one of you like more action in a film or something?

AW: I tend to use more scatalogical humor than Larry.

LW: That’s true. All of the butt jokes are Andy’s.

JH: So what’s next for both of you? What are you working on now?

LONG PAUSE

LW: There’s a science fiction project that we really want to make but it’s very expensive as they keep telling us so we’ll see. Hopefully it will happen.

JH: Down the line are you both going to work independently or are you going to stay together?

LW: Well, we’re both very very lazy and having someone else do half the work is very convenient.

JH: Do you have a prepared response when interviewers compare you to all those other famous brother filmmaking teams like the Coen brothers?

LONG PAUSE.

AW: We haven’t quite gotten that response down pat yet.

LW: It’s going to happen. It’s automatic. We’re brothers. They’re brothers. We want to be compared to more sisters.

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CONCEPT ART PRODUCTION FOR THE MATRIX RELOADED/REVOLUTIONS

After seeing the first Matrix film , I was intrigued by the possibility of working on the sequels. Ridley Scott’s “Blade Runner” and “Alien” films inspired me at an early age and I wanted to work on an intelligent adult science fiction film. I sent my portfolio to the Wachowski Brothers and was elated when they asked me to join their team. They were still writing the scripts in Chicago when I was commissioned to start helping the visual development process from my home in San Francisco. I later moved to Los Angeles and joined the production designer Owen Patterson and a small department of extremely talented designers, storyboard and previsualization artists. Over the course of the next four years, my role as conceptual designer evolved into Visual Effects Art Director at ESC Entertainment, where I currently work as Creative Director.

By mid-2000, the directors needed to break down all the sets and visual effects work to help budget and plan for the huge amount of work to come. In the beginning I was asked to draw industrial design concepts for set interiors and vehicles. There were several thousand visual effects to do and these had me dedicating the remainder of my time to drawing and painting key sequences from the scripts. After carefully studying a portion of the storyline I would meet with the Brothers to discuss that particular sequence. This would happen a few times a week. They always had a clear vision and incredibly imaginative ideas, which were truly inspiring! My role was to help them translate their ideas onto paper before any cameras began rolling. What was unique was the attention the directors paid to concept design and graphic story telling – very refreshing and creatively fulfilling.

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During my stint on Matrix: Reloaded and Revolutions, I produced about a hundred drawings of how set designs, miniature models and visual effects shots should look. I painted hundreds of color storyboards including several high-detail production paintings. I helped visualize much of the dark futuristic landscape of the Machine world for Revolutions, specifically. This encompassed sequences of the power plant, Logos journey, armada battle, and the confrontation with the Deus Ex Machina.

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Concept Art Work
The visual style of The Matrix was established in the first movie by Owen Patterson, Bill Pope the DP and Geof Darrow. When it came to making the sequels though, there were many new worlds that needed to be pre-visualized. We all love the aesthetics of classic science fiction from the US, France and Japanese Anime. I took all of those influences and tried to blend them together in my illustrations, focusing on rich lighting compositions and strong graphic layout.

Being a fan of science fiction, I was very excited by the concepts for Reloaded and Revolutions. Ironically, it wasn't until after I saw the films that I truly began to understand much of the symbolism behind the imagery I had illustrated. I wanted to know more about the hidden meanings. I read the "Tao of Physics", which helped me understand the interconnection of quantum physics and Buddhism. These philosophical reflections gave greater meaning to the golden imagery of “Neo-vision” and his journey to the source. All the ideas are 100% from the Wachowskis; I merely helped visualize their concepts as dramatically and beautifully as possible.

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In post-production, I transitioned to ESC Entertainment as a Senior Visual Effects Art Director and switched to concentrate on a different sequence: the Siege of Zion. My favorite part of this phase was building and shooting the effects involving miniature models. My responsibilities ranged from artistic direction for the construction and lighting of the models all the way through to the digital cinematography of the final shots. I found the best way to provide art direction was to digitally paint ideas into highly detailed "key-frames". These gave the crew visual targets to help describe precise lighting direction, color palettes, value, composition and atmospherics. On many shots, I was able to see the lines of a script evolve step by step, through all the detailed stages, to the final film release. Reflecting on nearly four years working on the art for the Matrix sequels it was an exhausting but immensely fulfilling experience.

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The Art Production Process
Whenever I start an illustration, I think about the focal point and value composition first. I like images that can be bold enough to make the point in a few seconds, yet subtle enough to have depth and emotion. I go through a process when providing art direction which helps people clearly decipher the qualities of strong imagery. It revolves around three basic ideas: (1) knowing the essential controlling idea of a shot, (2) deciding on the focal point which will express that idea easily, and (3) designing everything in the color, lighting and value composition to support that idea. With complex imagery, this can be much harder than it seems. However, attention paid to these steps can be the difference between dramatic, captivating imagery, and a muddy composite of great detail but poor design. Computer graphics are inherently noisy with detail; so this is incredibly important in visual effects. CG artists can learn substantially from practicing traditional painting, as the choices faced in digital image creation can be the exact same choices that painters must make on each new canvas.

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At the beginning of the creative process it is important not to get too tight with your work. For me, the production process starts with me blocking out my designs or storyboards in pencil first and then having the directors check to see whether I am on the right track. Because the Wachowski Brothers wanted considerable detail in the artwork I did, I would almost always ink my pencil drawings into higher design resolution. From there I would photocopy these sketches onto color copy paper, which is great for marker illustration.

Sometimes I block out my value composition in grey washes of marker inks—not worrying about color. If it is a design sketch, I usually stop here. If I am creating a color production painting, I sometimes glaze in layers of color inks and gouache. Other times I will use Photoshop as the finishing tool. Working digitally can cut the time in half as it saves me using colored pencils, airbrush, pastels and gouache. I love the tactile feeling of these tools, but I gain greater control and efficiency working digitally. However, for fine detail it was always important to start off with a carefully delineated drawing as an underlay.

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Sentinel Serpent Conceptual
I did this illustration to pitch a few art direction ideas to the Brothers. My goal was to figure out the color and lighting direction aspects of the siege—after the Sentinels have fully destroyed the dock. I wanted to give the masses of Sentinels a distinctive head shape. I thought this would help the audience see the Sentinel swarms as a more threatening monster of collective intelligence, and make the scene more dramatic.

The Chinese dragonhead seemed like a perfect fit. The Brothers were sold on the concept. Whenever possible, I try to design a composition from left to right with strong diagonals. The challenge is usually how to lead the eye back into the middle, and keep the viewer inside the frame. I designed the composition of the twisting Serpent using this approach.

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The Machine City Conceptual
The grand panoramic of the machine city was a difficult challenge. I started with a few immensely detailed drawings by Geof Darrow of the machine buildings. The challenge was to compose all the detail that the directors wanted, but somehow keep the end result from being cluttered. The need for this balance would typify my goal for almost every shot that I worked on in the films. I started by referencing photographs of New York and noticed how atmospheric perspective can simplify the detail of several hundred buildings into graphic shapes. I would then block out the hierarchy of shapes into compositions focusing on maximizing depth and scale.

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I then began to explore ideas about the city itself. I imagined that a civilization of machines would not use buildings as humans do. Since they wouldn't have as much need for shelter, perhaps these buildings could be creatures themselves. I pictured a forest of anthills with their organic architecture being made up of living creatures. I liked the idea of a city that is in constant animation, slowly undulating. This led to the depiction of giant towers with squid-like tentacle arms. I imagined these as massive living cranes that were continually expanding the machine empire. Besides making a scene look dramatic, a concept artist should always try to elaborate on the ideas as well. They don't always get used, but it is an important part of the creative process. I find my favorite illustrations are based on great ideas.

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More from the conceptual artist George Hull at:

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It appears he also worked on lighting concepts for "Finding Nemo".

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Conceptual art for M3:
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And look at this! It's EXACTLY like the movie! I thought I was looking at a screen shot!:
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I actually do like Nemo...I just can't resist the gags...sorry!

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Fatpie42 wrote:

And look at this! It's EXACTLY like the movie! I thought I was looking at a screen shot!:
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If this is conceptual art, then technically the Movie is exactly the same as this, but yeah, it's a great picture.

And I'd not seen the "hand of god" connection before, but to be honest there's so much going on in that scene I'm not surprised.

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IMHO, the panel is beter than the scene in the movie because they didn't make the light behind the "hand" made of sentinels, and that light was giving an impressive effect .

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I don't know if that short movie about the making of Animatrix was publicly realsed yet, so I post the link here (you must scroll down to find it).

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MY DEFENSE OF ZION

One Voice Crying Out From Within The Matrix
by Bernard White (Rama Kandra)


I haven’t read all of the reviews of THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS, but of the ones I have read the vast majority have ranged from the coldly appreciative to the “this movie sucks”.
Don Davis, the composer and conductor of the film’s magnificent score, in speaking of the reviews succinctly put it this way, “They’ve been toxic.”
Obviously when you are part of a project, a project that has changed your entire world, there’s the strong possibility of attachment. There’s the possibility that you might not be completely objective.
There’s also the possibility, that with a little distance and grace, you may prove to possess a very important quality that is most useful to the serious critic; Love of the material you choose to criticize.
How can you talk about anything in an honest and genuine way if you do not first love it.
Love is the ingredient necessary for the success of all things. Love is the ingredient most missing in, if not the hearts, then the pens, of most of our critics.
And I say this with love.
I pray, I say, this with love.
I am aware, also, of the possibility that love can blind one to the faults of the beloved.
Yet, as a married man, I say quite confidently that love reveals the faults of the beloved and love sees what is actually there or else it it something other than love.
The beloved of which I now speak is THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS.

The first time I saw THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS was at the movie’s premiere at Disney Hall.
It was my first experience with a Hollywood Premiere of this size. I was nervous and excited. I wore a tie. I think I was one of the only men there wearing a tie.
Traffic was very bad getting there. It was our first time going to Frank Gehry’s newly opened Disney Hall. The setting for the premiere promised to be as grand, if not more, than the film itself.
We took a wrong turn, down a one-way downtown L.A. traffic hell in hopes that it was a shortcut.
In regards to L.A. traffic, there are no shortcuts.
My wife and I decided against renting a limo and opted to drive ourselves in our indigo ink 2003 Toyota Matrix (yes, a matrix) and self-park it under the Hall.
We stepped onto the red carpet, with green lights flooding the silver Disney Hall. All around us, past the flashing cameras of the press, Southern California burned, in the worst wild fires to this region in recorded history.
We were here, my wife and I and some 1000 other guests who received the engraved metal invitation in the mail, to attend the world premiere of the hugely anticipated final part of THE MATRIX TRILOGY called THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS.
We made our way along the red carpet, stopping every now and then to talk to some pleasant smiling people. We went through security and there I gave up the disposable camera I bought at the Mobil Station on the way to Disney Hall. Only two of the 24 exposures left. All these disposable cameras look alike, so they also asked me to give them my driver’s license so that they could tell the camera was mine.
The last person we met before we entered the lobby of Disney Hall was Andy Wachowski, whose simple and humble (and perhaps a bit frightened) instruction to us was to not have “high expectations”.

How were my wife and I fortunate enough to be invited to this prestigious Hollywood event?
It has to do with a quick meal at a taco bell in Sun Valley.
It has to do with two first class flights to Sydney, Australia.
It has to do with pillaging uneaten dinner rolls and butter pads from room service trays left outside doors to rooms of the Quay Grande Hotel, next to the Sydney Opera House.
It has to do with my great good fortune in landing the role of “Rama Kandra” in THE MATRIX RELOADED and THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS.

I was a huge fan of THE MATRIX and a friend of the woman who played Trinity.
I remember going to the New Beverly Theatre with her to see a couple of Jack Nicholson movies and her telling me about this underground sci-fi movie that she did with Keanu Reeves and Laurence Fishburne. It sounded cool and I was happy that my friend had landed, what sounded like, a nice part in a little independent feature. She described it to me, but it didn’t really make sense. All’s I took away from her explanation was that it had something to do with the world not being what it seems and the film could possibly have a positive effect on her career.
I didn’t know Carrie Anne very well. We had worked together some 5 years back and had just run into each other “by chance” a couple of times. Once on a street I decided to take, because it’s name was the month of my birth. We were both people who saw significance in catching a digital clock when it read 11:11. We were both believers in providence, believing that things happened for a reason.
So, when I got the part, beyond believing that it was meant to be, I was convinced I got it because she had put in a good word for me. She denies this, to this day.
But once inside the matrix, I soon came to learn that the journey from illusion to truth is long. That the road goes both ways and that it is the individual’s choice whether to go forward or backward on that long, long road. At every turn you’ve the chance to take the red or blue pill.

Back at the Gala Premiere, Disney Hall was stunning. Nathalie and I sat in the first row center of the terrace, right next to Ian Bliss, who played the character of Bane.
We looked down on the orchestra and saw Cornel West and Sharon Stone. I think I saw John McEnroe. Larry and Andy Wachowski were down there too, hugging people.
Larry looked very different than the last time I had seen him in Sydney with a crew cut, wearing jeans, nike basketball shoes and a baseball cap turned backwards. He now had long hair. He looked softer, more vulnerable. It may very well have been the occasion as much as his dress. Nevertheless he was a walking metaphor, demanding the enslaved to see past the illusion, to look past the flesh.
In the Disney Hall, supposedly there is an organ that is a magnificent work of art in itself. We couldn’t see the organ this night because a huge screen on which the movie was to be projected was blocking it.
It didn’t seem right to do this to this new hall so close to it’s opening. I had the longing to see the hall as a whole, not with a big white screen cutting it in half.
A couple of guys, I didn’t recognize, stepped before the crowd and said a few words into a microphone that didn’t work.
The lights went out. The movie began and then it ended. The lights came back on. People clapped.

Everything that has a beginning has an end.

I was disappointed. After all the build-up, I thought, is that all there is? Feelings of betrayal crept into my feelings of disappointment. The movie seemed poorly acted, poorly written, poorly directed and paced. The sound was bad on top of it all. (I later learned they were having sound problems, because the new Disney Hall is not really equipped to show movies.) Andy Wachowski would later describe the sound as “monolicious”.
Then back down in the lobby, on the way to the after-party, I first went to collect my ID and my camera. My ID, to prove that I am who I am, and the camera, to prove that we were indeed at this all-too-cool event while the rest of California burned. I was excited to see all the pictures we had taken. I was particularly looking forward to seeing the ones I took of Pat Summerall as he interviewed me. He was a real celebrity, for goodness sake. I used to watch him every Sunday afternoon during football season.
Security had lost both. My camera and my driver’s license were missing.
The disappointment grew as Joel Silver descended the escalator from above. I interrupted my dealings with the security chief of Warner Bros. to wave to ole Joel in hopes that he would recognize me. I’m not certain that he did. He was, however, kind enough to wave back. I was grateful to him. I was suspicious of my own over-reaching. I was just another employee wanting to be recognized by his employer.
Security told me to go ahead to the party, “Mr. White, we are very sorry this happened and you better believe we will be sure to get to the bottom of it.”
My missing ID and camera, reminded me of the production company forgetting to put my name in the credits for the previous film RELOADED. I felt the similar bitterness that I felt after not being invited to the RELOADED premiere and then going on opening day with all the other fans only to see my name missing in the credits.
I remember thinking, as I watched the cast credits scrolling by in alphabetical order and seeing Lambert Wilson’s name follow Cornel West’s, Did I really do the film? Or was it all a dream?
“Do you think that is air you are breathing?”
The production company caught the mistake themselves and corrected it on all future prints. Yet the bitter taste lingered.
“Say my name. . . what’s my name, damn it!”
At the time, I figured they had cut me out of the third film and our trip to Australia would end up being nothing more than a lovely vacation to a very clean city.
With the missing camera and ID, it once again seemed I was being over-looked.
The fact is, no matter how much I try to fight it, I am an actor with a huge ego. I still had and have a lot to learn about surrender and non-attachment.
At the party several people told me that they liked my work in the film. The most genuine compliment came from Don Davis and his wife Megan. One thing I clearly liked in the film was the music, so this compliment coming from them, meant something.
The party was loud and alienating for me. I was overwhelmed with this whole event surrounding the movie. I was moving slowly into a depression.
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
I am still a prisoner of time. I can answer the question “What is the matrix?” but just as Neo had, I still have a long way to go to see past the myriad of further illusions that come after answering that initial question.
I am still deeply caught inside the matrix, the world of ego, and I am desperately in need of an exit.
Just before leaving the party, Nathalie and I were fortunate enough to have a grounded conversation on the sidewalk between Disney Hall and the Party Tent Construct. We spoke with Andy Wachowski and Lambert Wilson and another gentleman in a tie.
Two things stood out, apart from the guy in the tie.
The first was when Lambert Wilson, spoke of being uncomfortable watching the love scenes between Neo and Trinity, because the two of them seemed like brother and sister. He said he enjoyed this discomfort, was moved by this discomfort. The love was deep. Painful. Like a sexual love between a brother and a sister. It struck me as being a profound and distinctly French observation. He said it thoughtfully, with sadness.
The second was when I asked Andy what he was doing next. He said, he was returning to Chicago to be quiet. He said that the process of making these films had taken chunks of his self and he was looking forward to returning home to recover those chunks. He, too, spoke with thoughtful sadness.
Andy looks like a guy who might have been the second string middle linebacker on your high school team.
If there’s one thing, I’ve learned from my time within the matrix, it’s that looks can be deceiving. Andy, along with Larry are two of the smartest and gifted artists that I’ve ever had the privilege to work with.
My conversation with Andy and Lambert Wilson reminded me of the huge and humble gifts of these true artists. I was lifted out of my confused depression for a moment and reminded of my great good fortune to work with the likes of these people. I escaped the matrix, if for a second, to see past the illusion of the evening and to see and to feel gratitude. An obvious gratitude for someone fortunate enough to be in my position. To get paid to do what I love. It was all a gift. How easy it is, for me, to forget my blessings.
Back at security with my possessions still missing, we retreated in our leased car to our rented home.
I was depressed and confused for the next 16 hours or so. Nathalie swears it was 24 hours. But I distinctly felt something lift after my afternoon meditation the next day, after returning home from 5 hours spent at the Department of Motor Vehicles where I waited in line to get a new driver’s license.

In the following days, the reviews started trickling in.
And to use Don Davis’s word, they were “toxic”. And what was personally abhorrent to me was, that I was not being mentioned in any of them! At best, they spoke positively of the “Indian guy” with his daughter Sati.

Everything that has an END has a BEGINNING.

This began for me at a taco bell in Sun Valley when my friend Kevin Mukherji and I were taking a break from editing my little independent feature called THE WANT.
The total budget for THE WANT was less than $2,000 dollars. It was a labor of love about love. The struggles of love within the marriage relationship. I wrote it some 8 years before the release of the first matrix. The themes of my little movie are control and surrender. It is about escaping the bondage of comfort and lies that can make marriages stale. It is about daring to seek the truth and tell the truth in order to save your love. These themes are right in line with THE MATRIX, but in a hugely different context. My film even has an oracle kind of character. A man who sits in a chair in the middle of the road. People come to him for guidance.
So, Kevin and I are sipping our mountain dews at Taco Bell when he tells me that a couple other friends had auditioned for The Matrix Sequels a few months ago and did I go in on it. I said no. Immediately trying to assign blame for this huge error. If they were seen a few months ago, surely the role was cast. I thought it was probably some tiny role, anyway, so what did it matter. Better to leave the taco bell and get back to work on my film.
I mentioned it to my manager and a few weeks later my friend Meera told me they were still looking for the part of Rama Kandra and that she had mentioned my name to the casting director.
Another week passed before I got a call saying I had a reading for Mali Finn for the matrix sequels.
I read for Mali, who put me on tape for the directors who were already shooting in Sydney. I got a message on my voice mail about a week later from Carrie Anne in Australia telling me “congratulations”. My manager or agents hadn’t told me anything yet, so I didn’t know what to make of it.
This was my welcome to the matrix. Clouded in mystery and uncertainty.

Bullet Time forward to the trickle of bad reviews now turning into a raging stream. I was ready to put this long road of an experience behind me and move on.
After all, I had just finished shooting a wonderful role in Wim Wender’s next film called THE LAND OF PLENTY. A short film I did called AMERICAN MADE was beginning to win awards at festivals and I was getting a lot of notice. So, I didn’t need THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS to be good. People were liking my work in the film what did it matter whether they liked the film itself?
In fact, I began to interpret my not appearing in the credits and having my camera and ID lost at the premiere and not being mentioned in the reviews as profound tests of my sense of self. Tests given to help me discover who I really am. To discern what is really important in my life and work as opposed to the meaningless media hype.
A chance to become like Larry and Andy Wachowski in their admirable purity. How they simply do the work. How they show up for the work and free themselves as much as possible from the hype. From the glare and shallow stupidity of the media.
This had already been a theme of mine. I had read about, and thought I’d even adopted the philosophy of non-attachment to things like possessions and names. I started a theatre company 5 years back that refused to post actor’s headshots in the lobby and even went further and experimented with listing only the whole company’s name and not attaching specific names to traditional titles like director and actor. To illustrate that names don’t matter and that we are all responsible and not responsible. To ultimately show that God is the author. That our petty egos were a huge hindrance to our work as artists. That we needed to see past the illusion and see that we were simply channels. Nameless channels. Or that we needed to perhaps free ourselves of our slave names and find our true names like Thomas Anderson did with Neo.
And now this lofty thinking was being tested again. And I was failing miserably. I was feeling like I wanted to be recognized, damn it. Like how Muhammed Ali, early in his career, demanded Sonny Liston, after defeating him, to. . .

“say my name. . .what’s my name. . . say my name.”

“The Indian guy with his daughter Sati.”

It was time to walk away.

Everything that has a beginning has an end.

So how did I go from there to climbing into my own Armed Personnel Unit (APU) and ready to fire back bullets defending this brilliant and grossly misunderstood piece of mythic genius called THE MATRIX REVOLUTIONS?
And more importantly, how did I go from this aggressive stance of defensive attack against the onslaught of friends and critics, to laying down my guns, like the humble and truly heroic Morpheus, at the foot of the sentinels (those slippery metallic critics)?

During that dark week after the premiere, with my Smith side winning the battle, we were invited to a “cast and crew” screening of REVOLUTIONS in Westwood. I was hesitant at first, but said yes. I wanted to go but I needed the armor of ambivalence.
By the time the screening came around, I was beginning to shake off the cloud about me and put things in perspective. I had got used to the reviews and now was anxious to see the film again away from the glowing green light that shone on the premiere.
So I grabbed Nathalie and my temporary driver’s license and headed to Westwood.
The main cast and the other “above the line” players were scattered across the globe. Most of them in Tokyo, for the next day’s simultaneous global release. I think I was the only actor in the theatre. Don Davis was there with his wife. I was grateful he was becoming a familiar face.
We watched the film with other people, like us, who worked on the film. All of us aiding Neo’s journey to the source, all of us helping to defend Zion, the last free human city for humans and those striving to be.
The lights went down, this time with no speeches. This screen was not blocking an organ. We could tell because some usher had left the light on in the room behind the screen and the light shone through the image on the screen. After the light behind was extinguished, the only light in the theatre was that of the projector shining through the thin film.
The film ended and the lights came up.
This time, I LOVED IT! So, did Nathalie. I went along for the ride, this time. I remembered how much I had invested in these characters and how much I cared for them. I was moved. I was thrilled. I was made to think. All the themes that were established in the first two movies as well as the Animatrix were coming to completion. I was able to begin to see some of the glorious details of the unprecedented “Siege of Zion” battle scene.
I thought to compare this movie to another famous and complex anti-war work of art. Picasso’s GUERNICA. At first look, it’s an aggressive mess. The viewer doesn’t know what he’s looking at. For appreciation, it demands a look closer. It demands the love that allows one to look closer.
I was able to do this the second time I saw THE MATRIX REVOLTUIONS.
I have now seen it an additional 5 times. Making it an even 7.
The movie is nothing, I mean nothing, short of brilliant.
The depth and complexity is well worth the closer look, that, it seems to me, some of these critics were not willing to take.
It seemed to me that they did not want to risk falling in love with this film.
Why?
I believe it has to do with betrayal.
Not wanting to be betrayed, not wanting to buy into the overdone hype of the Warner Brothers Publicity Machine.
Not wanting to reward this quiet underground discovery of theirs turned Hollywood Blockbuster.
They will, of course, site things like “wooden performances” and “clunky dialogue”. An “uneven and confusing storytelling” that they feel amounts to a kind of sound and fury signifying nothing.
I will not stop short of saying that with this movie as the culmination of this trilogy, we have seen the deepest and most complex original modern mythology to ever be put on film. (I exclude LORD OF THE RINGS, since it is based on JRR Tolkien’s classic novels)
So, why are so few seeing this?
Is it because of these feelings of betrayal?
Is it because there is too much death?
The two romantic heroes are not suppose to die. Both of them? And the cool bad guy to boot?
Death, death, death.
Death equals betrayal.
It meant betrayal to the followers of Christ after his crucifixion. The messiah was suppose to go into Jerusalem and kick some ass. Send the Roman dogs packing. Restore Jerusalem/Zion to it’s rightful owners.
And what does Christ do? He goes in and surrenders himself as some unclear sacrifice for other’s sins? What does that mean?
Death equaled betrayal.
This is what Neo does. He stops fighting. He wins the peace, he wins the freedom through his surrender. Like Morpheus, laying down his arms (literally, like on a cross) to balance the equation.
Wasn’t this what Christ was doing when “dying for our sins”? Wasn’t he, for Christians, simply balancing the equation?
In a time when our freedom of speech doesn’t allow the ten commandments to be listed on a courthouse wall, I know it can be dangerous for a “liberal” to dare to talk of Christ.
Separation of church and state, my ass. Why not address the real problem? The problem of not including the wisdom of the Hindu and Buddhist and Muslim texts on our courthouse walls as well.
At this point, I feel myself climbing back up into my APU. Forgive me. I once again take the path of our movie’s heroes and lay down my guns.
To continue to guess at why I think critics might be failing to see the deep and resonant beauty of this film;
Is it because, Morpheus and his cause could be seen as guerilla fighters trying to bring down a monolithic power? And many of those people fighting with Morpheus seem to be dark skinned? Though, in reality, it is a realistic representation of our world’s diverse ethnicities.
This film depicts the world as it really looks, like no other Hollywood film before. It’s a wonderful and more mature great grand child of THE MOD SQUAD in this respect.
The casting actually reminds me more of the dining room worker scene in Cassavetes WOMAN UNDER THE INFLUENCE.
It’s just a group of people who happen to look different from each other. And different than what we’re bombarded with in movies and television, everyday.
Remember the brothers have said all along this movie was about integration. The color of people’s skin is but the tip of the volcanic iceberg called Zion.
Are we not ready for this in our blockbusters?
Or is it because of it’s message of peace in a time of shady war?
THE MATRIX set up this wonderfully clear world where we knew who the good guys were and we knew who the bad guys were.
RELOADED blurred the lines with our learning that the oracle was a program and with the whole introduction of the architect.
But if we look closely at THE MATRIX, the seeds of this were there in Morpheus’ “but I think it was the humans who scorched the sky.” It was also present in the very method of Neo defeating Smith. By entering him and exploding him with light from within. Neo, quite literally, entered the heart of his enemy.
This is the advise of the great Sufi poet, Rumi. He said we must all try “to enter the heart of your enemy.”
This is the real integration the brothers speak of.
In the mythical world that they have created the war is between man and machine. It is as bitter a war as any. What the machines did to the humans is in line with what the Colonial Powers did to the Africans in the slave trade. What the humans did to the machines can be compared to the genocide of the Native Americans and the holocaust of the Jews. (see the Animatrix).
So, these two sides have some animosity toward each other. A long and bitter and cruel war, in deed.
And then if RELOADED blurred these lines, than REVOLUTIONS obliterated the lines all together, in a literal explosion of light.
Good didn’t conquer evil, they balanced each other in the attainment of peace. And thus bringing on the dawn of a whole new era.
I believe these critics, who say that THE MATRIX is a mish-mosh and a shallow sampling of many spiritual and philosophical traditions, aren’t willing to look deep enough into these traditions to really see that it is not a mish-mosh but rather a monumental integration of these traditions. Especially the integration of Hindu and Christian thought.
Escaping the cycles of re-birth (revolutions) and finally becoming one with the infinite spirit is one of the core teachings of Hinduism.
This is precisely what happens at the end of this trilogy.
Everything that has a beginning has an end.
It is important to note what this great log line implies in the negative. Anything that has no beginning has no end. This is the eternity spoken of in Judeo-Christian-Muslim thought.
This is the realm our hero Neo, and perhaps even our anti-hero Smith, now occupy at the end of REVOLUTIONS. As the black cat appears and another cycle begins in our world of time. The world that Neo has finally escaped. Finally escaping both the illusion of the matrix and the illusion of the “real world”.
People wanted to see the matrix destroyed. All people freed. Instead the simulated computer program that hides people from the truth of their slavery is still in tact.
Only now, re-enforcing one of the trilogy’s major themes; the enslaved are given the CHOICE to be free.
If people want to be free of the matrix, they will no longer have outside agents stopping them.
They can only stop themselves.
That is indeed a very different world than we had at the beginning of the first matrix.
Again, this is what Christians will say that Christ offered the world. Freedom from their sins, if they want and choose that freedom.
Yet still, people have to make up their own damn minds.

These movies are not simplistic.
They cannot be dismissed by labeling them over-hyped and failed Hollywood Blockbusters.
They certainly cannot be written off like Peter Travers in Rolling Stone (that bastion of forward thinking) did by saying “To put it simply, this movie sucked.”
They ought to be considered for the serious works of art that they are.
Of course, there’s room for criticism.
Some of the dialogue is clunky. Some of the performances are wooden.
But to get back to my original point, (yes, I inhabit that world of still trying to make points) for the criticism to be genuine, it must be made through the prism of love.
I am much more eager to listen to the genuine disappointment of the real fan, than to the critic who lacks investment.
REVOLUTIONS is just too filled with light, for it to not be given this kind of serious consideration.
So critics, here’s my unsolicited advise to you; Turn off the lights in your back rooms as they did at that theatre in Westwood. Don’t force your viewing by covering up the beauty of yet another work of art as they did with the organ at Disney Hall.
You must see the film, being in the right place. The right place, both inside and out.
My advise is to see the film at the IMAX. Sit somewhere in the center, right in the middle of the action. Have the Bhagavad Gita in your back pocket and some buttered popcorn on your lap.
Give yourself another chance to fall in love.

* * * *

In the Bhagavad-Gita, Krishna advises Arjuna;

“Contacts with matter make us feel
heat and cold, pleasure and pain.
Arjuna, you must learn to endure
Fleeting things – they come and go.”

* * * *

Everything that has an end has a beginning.

The first day I arrived on the set, I asked Larry and Andy if they were Catholic. Even though THE MATRIX was filled with all kinds of spiritual and philosophical traditions, being Catholic, myself, I recognized something in their work that was distinctly Catholic. As much to do with the woman in the red dress as to do with the death and resurrection at the end. Larry told me that they were raised Catholic, but that he was influenced heavily by the sacred Hindu texts like the Bhagavad-Gita and the Ramayana. I concentrated on the Ramayana in my research for my role of Rama Kandra. It made sense to read the story of Lord Rama’s journey to gather clues to my character.
It was only after finishing shooting that I picked up the Bhagavad-Gita. I have not been able to put it down since.
You can see it peeking out of my back pocket as I walk up the aisle to my church on my way to communion.

* * * *

In closing I’d like to publicly thank Andy and Larry Wachowski for allowing me the opportunity to play the beautiful role of Rama Kandra. For lending me strength and guidance, through their courageous work, to deepen my own understanding of the importance of integration. I am forever grateful for your profound gift.

I trust you’re keeping warm in Chicago. Protected from all the wind.

Apocryphe

  

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I have seen an interview of the actor "with his little daughter" Smile and the writting seems to be very different. Are you sure it is him who wrote that ?

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