»the prophecy?«

When morpheus explains that someone was born in the matrix, and he was the one to free the first of them, was he possibly referring to the previous "one"?. Also, if that is false, then regaurdless, when the previous ones chose to save zion and rebuild, did he come with them or was he not a part of it?

hi and welcome to this site..

you ask a very interesting and intelligent question..

my understanding of how it happens is very firm and full of facts..

now you will get others preaching to you about the way it is. and i will give you my version.

my details may sound totally wrong, and i know how they sound to people. but i do know what i am talking about..


i will give you my take on this topic..

when the architect tells neo that there were 5 previous ones and 5 versions of the matrix. i have very good reason to believe that he was lying..

i will give you proof as to what i am talking about..

1. you will see that on the nebakanezzar ship there is a sign which says that the ship was made in 2069.
now do you believe that the 23 people who rebuilt zion would actually have erected such a birth date for this ship?

no they wouldnt have

whoever made zion in the first place would have put that date there as to hint the resistence into the actual date in the real world. that is why morpheus says we think it is 2199
because it had been 100 years since the man born inside had got them out of the matrix.. the first people would have got out of the matrix in 2099.. which means that the man born inside the matrix was of the age of 30 when he released the people.. 30 as relates to the trinity..

you see 1999 adds up to be 9..as 9 for the year of judgement in the matrix
and 2199 adds up to be 3.. as three for the year of the trinity in the real world..

it is also my opinion that the reason that everything looks so old and ragged in the real world. is because they dont have the supplies and the equipment in the real world to actually repair things.
now i cant see how 23 people with limited knowledge and supplies can rebuild a place that is as big as zion..

so my take on the matrix is that there is only 1 one and 1 matrix..

it is your choice wether you take this in or not. and you will get others on here disputing what i just wrote.
but some others may not even give this thread a second look. as everybody else is of the thinking that the prophecy is a lie..

i have proved over and over again that i am correct in what i say, but people are just too ignorant and arrogant to see past the illusion that matrix feeds them..
all i ask is that people drop what they think about the matrix for a few minutes and try to understand what i say.

i will go off topic for a sec and let you in on something.

the first matrix movie stands for reality
reloaded and revolutions stand for fantasy.

now what i am saying is.

it is stupid to put all aside all the first movie taught, and replace it with the notion that it is just all fun and games in figuring out who the merovingian is, or if persephone is having sex with the architect lol...

i cant actually blame people for the way that they think. and i cant blame them for having a go at me.. after all the truth hurts...

but please try and understand at least the very basics of what i say..

He did come with them!

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my understanding of how it happens is very firm and full of facts.. now you will get others preaching to you about the way it is. and i will give you my version. my details may sound totally wrong, and i know how they sound to people. but i do know what i am talking about..

With this much qualification prefecing what someone is about to say, watch out!

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when the architect tells neo that there were 5 previous ones and 5 versions of the matrix. i have very good reason to believe that he was lying..

The Merovingian, too? The Oracle not denying it, when confronted, serves what purpose, then?

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do you believe that the 23 people who rebuilt zion would actually have erected such a birth date for this ship?

Do you actually believe they built the ships?
Do you actually believe they know what year it is either?

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that is why morpheus says we think it is 2199

Contrast with...

Morpheus wrote:

Actually it is closer to the year 2199. I can't tell you what year it is because, honestly we don't know.

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the first people would have got out of the matrix in 2099.. which means that the man born inside the matrix was of the age of 30 when he released the people.. 30 as relates to the trinity.. you see 1999 adds up to be 9..as 9 for the year of judgement in the matrix and 2199 adds up to be 3.. as three for the year of the trinity in the real world.. it is also my opinion that the reason that everything looks so old and ragged in the real world. is because they dont have the supplies and the equipment in the real world to actually repair things. now i cant see how 23 people with limited knowledge and supplies can rebuild a place that is as big as zion.. so my take on the matrix is that there is only 1 one and 1 matrix.. it is your choice wether you take this in or not. and you will get others on here disputing what i just wrote. but some others may not even give this thread a second look. as everybody else is of the thinking that the prophecy is a lie..

This is what you call grasping at straws.

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i have proved over and over again that i am correct in what i say, but people are just too ignorant and arrogant to see past the illusion that matrix feeds them..

Whoa. I forgot to bring my gas mask into this thread with me. The Wachowski Brothers already confirmed that Zion is older than its inhabitants think it is and that it has been destroyed five times. Where were you?

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

hi and welcome to this site.. you ask a very interesting and intelligent question.. my understanding of how it happens is very firm and full of facts.. now you will get others preaching to you about the way it is. and i will give you my version. my details may sound totally wrong, and i know how they sound to people. but i do know what i am talking about.. i will give you my take on this topic.. when the architect tells neo that there were 5 previous ones and 5 versions of the matrix. i have very good reason to believe that he was lying.. i will give you proof as to what i am talking about.. 1. you will see that on the nebakanezzar ship there is a sign which says that the ship was made in 2069. now do you believe that the 23 people who rebuilt zion would actually have erected such a birth date for this ship? no they wouldnt have whoever made zion in the first place would have put that date there as to hint the resistence into the actual date in the real world. that is why morpheus says we think it is 2199 because it had been 100 years since the man born inside had got them out of the matrix.. the first people would have got out of the matrix in 2099.. which means that the man born inside the matrix was of the age of 30 when he released the people.. 30 as relates to the trinity.. you see 1999 adds up to be 9..as 9 for the year of judgement in the matrix and 2199 adds up to be 3.. as three for the year of the trinity in the real world.. it is also my opinion that the reason that everything looks so old and ragged in the real world. is because they dont have the supplies and the equipment in the real world to actually repair things. now i cant see how 23 people with limited knowledge and supplies can rebuild a place that is as big as zion.. so my take on the matrix is that there is only 1 one and 1 matrix.. it is your choice wether you take this in or not. and you will get others on here disputing what i just wrote. but some others may not even give this thread a second look. as everybody else is of the thinking that the prophecy is a lie.. i have proved over and over again that i am correct in what i say, but people are just too ignorant and arrogant to see past the illusion that matrix feeds them.. all i ask is that people drop what they think about the matrix for a few minutes and try to understand what i say. i will go off topic for a sec and let you in on something. the first matrix movie stands for reality reloaded and revolutions stand for fantasy. now what i am saying is. it is stupid to put all aside all the first movie taught, and replace it with the notion that it is just all fun and games in figuring out who the merovingian is, or if persephone is having sex with the architect lol... i cant actually blame people for the way that they think. and i cant blame them for having a go at me.. after all the truth hurts... but please try and understand at least the very basics of what i say..

Again I marvel.

Is there some book, website, or other source of infinite knowledge that is feeding you this info...or is it just the splinter in your mind fueling you?

you know you are one of the smartest people i have seen on here phantom prowler.

this is not an insult,, i do mean it..

now not take away from what i just said.

NOBODY IS EVEN CLOSE TO UNDERSTANDING WHY I AM HERE..

but what you said is quite clever..

and i will give you a little tip for being so smart..

PEOPLES NAME ON THIS FORUM IS HOW MUCH IDEA THEY HAVE..

good work

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

hi and welcome to this site.. you ask a very interesting and intelligent question.. my understanding of how it happens is very firm and full of facts.. now you will get others preaching to you about the way it is. and i will give you my version. my details may sound totally wrong, and i know how they sound to people. but i do know what i am talking about.. i will give you my take on this topic.. when the architect tells neo that there were 5 previous ones and 5 versions of the matrix. i have very good reason to believe that he was lying.. i will give you proof as to what i am talking about.. 1. you will see that on the nebakanezzar ship there is a sign which says that the ship was made in 2069. now do you believe that the 23 people who rebuilt zion would actually have erected such a birth date for this ship? no they wouldnt have whoever made zion in the first place would have put that date there as to hint the resistence into the actual date in the real world. that is why morpheus says we think it is 2199 because it had been 100 years since the man born inside had got them out of the matrix.. the first people would have got out of the matrix in 2099.. which means that the man born inside the matrix was of the age of 30 when he released the people.. 30 as relates to the trinity.. you see 1999 adds up to be 9..as 9 for the year of judgement in the matrix and 2199 adds up to be 3.. as three for the year of the trinity in the real world.. it is also my opinion that the reason that everything looks so old and ragged in the real world. is because they dont have the supplies and the equipment in the real world to actually repair things. now i cant see how 23 people with limited knowledge and supplies can rebuild a place that is as big as zion.. so my take on the matrix is that there is only 1 one and 1 matrix.. it is your choice wether you take this in or not. and you will get others on here disputing what i just wrote. but some others may not even give this thread a second look. as everybody else is of the thinking that the prophecy is a lie.. i have proved over and over again that i am correct in what i say, but people are just too ignorant and arrogant to see past the illusion that matrix feeds them.. all i ask is that people drop what they think about the matrix for a few minutes and try to understand what i say. i will go off topic for a sec and let you in on something. the first matrix movie stands for reality reloaded and revolutions stand for fantasy. now what i am saying is. it is stupid to put all aside all the first movie taught, and replace it with the notion that it is just all fun and games in figuring out who the merovingian is, or if persephone is having sex with the architect lol... i cant actually blame people for the way that they think. and i cant blame them for having a go at me.. after all the truth hurts... but please try and understand at least the very basics of what i say..

Not quite sure how to post yet, but I found this website because I believe I was shown that the entire movie is a prophecy, and has some very strange correlations with the way the world works today.

please grow up..

i thought that moderators are meant to have disipline..

and buddy i am not joking about the depth of the movie.

if you dont agree with me then just ignore me.

i will not attack your ideas anymore.. so please just drop it

This entire concept of THE ONE and there having been previous ones is like the concept of THE AVATAR.

Morpheus talks as if there was only ONE previous ONE, but the Architect and the Merovingian talk about multiple ONEs. So some people either have incomplete knowledge or somebody is lying. Sounds like religion to me.

Christians talk about THE SECOND COMING as if JC has only been here once before. If you check out THE AQUARIAN GOSPEL OF JESUS THE CHRIST it says that ENOCH and MELCHIZEDEK were previous Avatars. If you then check the Bible for Melchizedek and Enoch some peculiar things turn up. It says Melchizedek didn't have a father or a mother. There are two books missing from the Bible, The Book of Enoch and The Book of the Secrets of Enoch. Hhmmm....

It looks like some people are trying to work some Matricksology on our heads.

psikeyhackr

Is it possible that the same prohicey is told to everyone entrusted in finding the one. Maybe the person that told morpheus was told by someone and that person before him. so in the end the prohicey could be nothing more than a big game of chinesse wispers.

One funny thing about memes is that the reason they endure is because they are often based on truth.

Maybe we need to apply science to alter most of the religious thinking.

Hey, I wanna start a mystical school. How about the:

Relatively Biblical Mystery School?

If God created the universe doesn't he have to know about relativity and shouldn't he have the power to control the flow of time.

A few years ago I found that Encyclopedia Britannica says that the EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS is written in "the most sophisticated and cultured Greek" of any of the books of the New Testament. If the NT was inspired by God could this be an accident? Apparently there is some controversy about whether or not Paul wrote Hebrews. Melchizedek is mentioned 11 thimes in the Bible, 9 of those occur in Hebrews. The other 2 are in the Old Testament which Paul couldn't possibly have written. Why would Paul suddenly go Melchizedek crazy in one book. I don't think Paul wrote it.

The number 7 appears a lot in the Bible. (rested on 7th day, Hebrews marched around Jericho 7 times, etc.) According to a numerology book I scanned long ago 7 is a number always associated with God. Strong's concordance shows the number 3 appears in the Bible even more than 7. 3 wise men showed up after JC's birth. 3 crosses on Calvary at death.

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Hebrews 7:3 says Melchizedek was without father, without mother and genealogy.

How does a guy not have a mother?

In Genesis chap 5, Enoch disappears and walks with God.

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Hebrews 11:5 - By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God.

How does a human being get translated? Translated through time?

Suppose Enoch hangs out with God for a day while 2000 years go by on Earth. God playing relativity games. God sends Enoch back to Earth and Enoch tells everyone his name is Melchizedek. He would have arrived as an adult, without father and without mother, and Enoch was the 7th generation counting from Adam. Another 7 that wouldn't appear in the count. There are two ancient texts not included in the Bible. The Book of Enoch and The Book of the Secrets of Enoch.

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Jude 1:14 - And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints,

OOPS! There is that number SEVEN again.

psikeyhackr
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psikeyhackr wrote:

Maybe we need to apply science to alter most of the religious thinking. Hey, I wanna start a mystical school. How about the: Relatively Biblical Mystery School? If God created the universe doesn't he have to know about relativity and shouldn't he have the power to control the flow of time. A few years ago I found that Encyclopedia Britannica says that the EPISTLE TO THE HEBREWS is written in "the most sophisticated and cultured Greek" of any of the books of the New Testament. If the NT was inspired by God could this be an accident? Apparently there is some controversy about whether or not Paul wrote Hebrews. Melchizedek is mentioned 11 thimes in the Bible, 9 of those occur in Hebrews. The other 2 are in the Old Testament which Paul couldn't possibly have written. Why would Paul suddenly go Melchizedek crazy in one book. I don't think Paul wrote it. The number 7 appears a lot in the Bible. (rested on 7th day, Hebrews marched around Jericho 7 times, etc.) According to a numerology book I scanned long ago 7 is a number always associated with God. Strong's concordance shows the number 3 appears in the Bible even more than 7. 3 wise men showed up after JC's birth. 3 crosses on Calvary at death. Quote: Hebrews 7:3 says Melchizedek was without father, without mother and genealogy. How does a guy not have a mother? In Genesis chap 5, Enoch disappears and walks with God. Quote: Hebrews 11:5 - By faith Enoch was translated that he should not see death; and was not found, because God had translated him: for before his translation he had this testimony, that he pleased God. How does a human being get translated? Translated through time? Suppose Enoch hangs out with God for a day while 2000 years go by on Earth. God playing relativity games. God sends Enoch back to Earth and Enoch tells everyone his name is Melchizedek. He would have arrived as an adult, without father and without mother, and Enoch was the 7th generation counting from Adam. Another 7 that wouldn't appear in the count. There are two ancient texts not included in the Bible. The Book of Enoch and The Book of the Secrets of Enoch. Quote: Jude 1:14 - And Enoch also, the seventh from Adam, prophesied of these, saying, Behold, the Lord cometh with ten thousands of his saints, OOPS! There is that number SEVEN again. psikeyhackr [170]

Very Interesting and I agree. In the book of revalations, Numbers are very Important to understanding that book.

There are 7 churches, 7 seals, 7 trumpets, 7 Angels with 7 Plauges, 7 Bowls, 6,000 years of mankind, and 1,000 years of peace with Christ = 7,000 years

I didnt mention every number, but so you have an Idea'

What did anything psikeyhackr wrote have to do with the matrix at all? Are you seriously so pathetic that you roam blogs all day looking for something that your fanatical mind can SOMEHOW relate to your twisted and skewed interpretations of the Bible so you can rant and hopefully find a new friend that just as fucked up in the head as you are? Seriously?

dude, that was over two years ago.