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Somebody posted in another web-forum a challeng for us "matrix-fans" to descently
explain how Neo could be both in matrix and in real world once he's unplugged by the time M2 ends. I found this on the web that might put some fire in the discussion:

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cs.caltech.edu...


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A qubit can exist not only in a state corresponding to the logical state 0 or 1 as in a classical bit, but also in states corresponding to a blend or superposition of these classical states. In other words, a qubit can exist as a zero, a one, or simultaneously as both 0 and 1, with a numerical coefficient representing the probability for each state. This may seem counterintuitive because everyday phenomenon are governed by classical physics, not quantum mechanics -- which takes over at the atomic level. This rather difficult concept is perhaps best explained through an experiment. Consider figure a below:


(Figure taken from a paper by Deutsch and Ekert)
Here a light source emits a photon along a path towards a half-silvered mirror. This mirror splits the light, reflecting half vertically toward detector A and transmiting half toward detector B. A photon, however, is a single quantized packet of light and cannot be split, so it is detected with equal probability at either A or B. Intuition would say that the photon randomly leaves the mirror in either the vertical or horizontal direction. However, quantum mechanics predicts that the photon actually travels both paths simultaneously! This is more clearly demonstrated in figure b.


In an experiment like that in figure a, where a photon is fired at a half-silvered mirror, it can be shown that the photon does not actually split by verifying that if one detector registers a signal, then no other detector does. With this piece of information, one might think that any given photon travels either vertically or horizontally, randomly choosing between the two paths. However, quantum mechanics predicts that the photon actually travels both paths simultaneously, collapsing down to one path only upon measurement. This effect, known as single-particle interference, can be better illustrated in a slightly more elaborate experiment, outlined in figure b below: (....)
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So I believe that matrix, as W.Brothers have declared some time ago , is a gigantic quantum computer, which make possible for some software to be running parallely in both worlds. But that would lead us the MwM theory ? not necessarly. Maybe our mind is ALSO a quantum computer, and since our mind is kind of a software (which is clearly demonstrated in M2 (smith upload) and M1 (combat training)), neo's mind software are running both in two quantum computers.

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Quantum mechanics is great.

By including it in the solution to a problem, scientists can validate prior theories without having to face the truth. That the prior theories might be wrong.

The experiment with the photon is a classic example. Prior theories say that a photon cannot be split. Measurement suggests that it can. Quantum physics (like many of its own examples) allows both truths and therefore proves nothing.

But it's a great way to keep the funding coming.

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I love that concept. That would be a really awesome concept.

Interesting thought.

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There are some scientists, theorists that believe that we will one day
be able to download our souls into a 'machine mind' and therefore
live for ever (or at least until our bodies rust).

Like Morpheus says, what is real is it simply what our mind interprets as
electrical NEOuron impulses in our brain. Some day these electrical signals that regulate our heart beat, lungs, dreams, muscle movements, etc may be able to be tracked by a very sophisticated machine. Quantum computing might do the trick. Once the machine can accurately simulate your brain patterns, it might be possible to simply download your mind into a machine hard drive. Could you imagine, you are 80 years old, about to die from cancer. You go to a clinic. They download your mind into a machine, and now you are Johnny 5 from Short Circuit. hehehe

Cnn.com has already reported that at a USA university scientists have drilled holes into a monkeys head. Implented electrodes into their brain, specifically in the muscular control area. They then taught the monkeys how to use a robotic arm to pick up objects. The signals in the electrodes make the robot arm move. At first the monkeys mimiced picking up objects with their own hands. But then learned to keep their hands at their sides, and use only their thoughts to command the robot arm. There
is hope that this technology can be used for disabled people everywhere.
It seems that they would kind of become Cyborgs in a way.

Very cool stuff.

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That's the beauty of quantum computing. Anyone has any thought about this
in the Neo-in-both-world question ?

does quantum computing solve or help that matter ?

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Quantum computing is a definite possibility here. Unless the AI has just been horribly stagnant over the last thousand years, which they obviously haven't been(judging from their experiments in the Matrix). I think they would take quantum computing and make it work.

I still think that Neo represents Pi, and therefore is representing the uncalculable/infinite aspect of the human mind(hope and love maybe).

Could it be possible, that just as your conscious mind is seperate BUT connected to your unconscious mind, Neo's mind has furthered this seperation/connection. Perhaps in the Matrix he is repesenting his unconscious mind(where anything is possible), and in the desert of the real he is representing his conscious mind.

Of course, quantum mechanics would still be necessary to explain why the two aspects of his mind are able to connected to one source, and yet, be in two totally different "physical" spaces.

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Quantum computing is a definite possibility here. Unless the AI has just been horribly stagnant over the last thousand years, which they obviously haven't been(judging from their experiments in the Matrix). I think they would take quantum computing and make it work.

I still think that Neo represents Pi, and therefore is representing the uncalculable/infinite aspect of the human mind(hope and love maybe).

Could it be possible, that just as your conscious mind is seperate BUT connected to your unconscious mind, Neo's mind has furthered this seperation/connection. Perhaps in the Matrix he is repesenting his unconscious mind(where anything is possible), and in the desert of the real he is representing his conscious mind.

Of course, quantum mechanics would still be necessary to explain why the two aspects of his mind are able to connected to one source, and yet, be in two totally different "physical" spaces.

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I like the PI ideia. But paradoxally, if neo was linked to the PI concept, then Matrix wouldnt be based on quantum computing right ? AFAIK, quantum computing would enable to handle those irrational situations, such PI, and "e".

If the "imperfection" is still a problem in Matrix, then that would (would?) be sign
of Matrix NOT based on quantum computing.

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