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»The final fight- wheres the logic?«


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The final fight- wheres the logic?  

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In M1 at the end, you see Neo destroy Smith by sort of Jumping inside him, then exploding him from inside.

Now fast forward to M3- The final scene, Neo vs that one smith. Why couldn't neo do that same thing again?

on the subject, why did only ONE smith fight neo? Apparently he saw ahead, and knew he was going to win, but...

When he saw into the future, how did the future smith know? Assumabally because he saw into the future. But how did the future- future smith know... and so on.

The question is, how did the origional smith know (or rather think) he was going to win?

Wheres the logic people?

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Well, the Smith from M1 and M3 are not the same.
It sounds quite logical that it can't be "destroyed" in the same way. In fact, as far as I understand, after M1. Smith and Neo were somehow "connected".

In M3, I don't think Smith literally "saw the future", even when he said "I have seen it". Smith was a program (sort of). Probably he made some simulations and realized how he would be able to beat Neo ("in all the simulations").
And it happened. But he didn't calculated that Neo destruction meant its own destruction.

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Yep... what he said... The way the oracle(and most likely the foretelling Smith) saw the future was purely through math equations and predection of actions n such. I guess it also kinda goes back to the understanding of the choice thing, as to why he lost even though he saw he was going to win.

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I think part of the intrigue of m3 is how they made Neo into a real world "the one". There was a level of fortune telling that went beyond mathematical equations. For instance, he had foreseen the death of trinity.

The reason coping over Neo did not work was somewhat answered by the architect in m2. Neo was the systemic anomoly that balanced out the equation, making the system work. The "code" that was the "one" was a physical asset of the matrix itself. He could not be copied over because the "Neo code" is written into the matrix.

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'The Final Flight (of the Osiris)' refers to the Animatrix. What do you mean in the context of M1+M3?

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shock wrote:

Neo was the systemic anomoly that balanced out the equation, making the system work.


not really. what made the system work was choice (or the illusion of one) and Neo's life was the ultimate expression of the choice to not accept the reality of the Matrix.

as for the final fight, Solitary Smith didn't know he was going to win. he knew he was going to beat Neo in a fight, which is not necessarily the same thing, as we find out.

Neo can't use the same tactics because Smith is no longer just an Agent, but more importantly (as we saw with the Trainman in Mobil Ave) the Matrix is Smith's world at the end of M3, and the rules don't apply to him as much any more, as evidenced by his control of the weather and power of flight.

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