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back_row_director wrote:

Over on the imdb.com... forums someone asked for opinions on this site. As I don't to talk about others behind their back I thought I should publish this here as well. No doubt these points have been raised and dismissed here before.

Thanks for your post!

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""You just don't get it. Matrix is a story about love/faith/..." The same as above. Spare us "obvious truths" Endless discussions. Spam." and contrasted it with this from their Matrix Imploded section on their homepage "The sex scene between Neo and Trinity. Pointless. The love between Neo and Trinity? Irrelevant to Revolutions. " So it would appear that on this one point the author of the page accepts that it may be an obvious truth that the Trilogy is about love, but the love between the two main characters is pointless. I beleive there is a problem with his arguements.

What the heck? I put obvious truths in quotes, to state that those are NOT obvious truths. OK, I rewrote the section.

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The site contains many contradictions and questions that are outwith the context of the film.

So true. Theories and counter-theories.

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The central problem this site seems to encounter is the expectation of an outcome to be produced from each scene.

This is not really true. But I reproach the bad filmmaking style where you are believed that each scene has 3 meanings (the Wachowskis thre some petrol into the fire themselves) but in the end it has no meaning at all (or just an irrelevant meaning).

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This is not always the way the Matrix story unfolds, as many scenes are understood when we look at them and expect them to be a resolution to themselves.

Don't foget: This site started as a digest for some questions&answers floating scattered thuout the web. So, yes, some questions/answers are stupid or unnecessary. But fun nevertheless.

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In this case we would expect that the protracted sex scene to produce the effect of Trinity becoming pregnant, and would therefore expect this to be used as a dramatic dilema

Yes, indeed. What was the sex scene about then? Just sex? And the dancing? Just dancing? Why was it so long? To be long? You see, although I don't devalue the scenes for themselves they had NOTHING to do with the story, it seems after all.

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This is not the point of this scene at all. It was intended to stay in your mind so that the viewer holds the idea of the love between Trinity and Neo throughout the film.

Sure, but it's kind of lame to devalue theories AFTER Revolutions came out.

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Claiming to find new meaning in classics works can be very lucrative.

Commercially-wise this site has brought me nothing but debts. But I do it for the fun of it. Forums are great!

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"No, it has not been proven that the Oracle is the Mother (although she most probably is)" ARCHITECT: If I am the father of the Matrix then she would undoubtedly be its Mother. NEO: The Oracle That seems pretty staight forward doesn't it?

As I said, matrix-explained.com is a forum digest. Thus all the theories don't necessarily reflect the importance of questions, nor my opinions

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If this indeed was the intention of the Wachowskis then there is no "Who is the Mother?" question arising from this scene and this is why it is not answered in Revolutions.

This is 100% true. But then again it is bad filmmaking. Why should the Architect really say "Please".

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But as I have already said there can be a lot of money in ambiguity, so maybe this webmaster should go look for some sponsorship.

Maybe I should. Then this site would be plastered by banners.

what people must understand is that the matrix is COMPLETELY AND ENTIRELY open to personal interpretation...some people will see major importance in scenes that may have gone right by others....

the point of this forum is to discuss and help each other to better understand the matrix and its meanings...

i highly doubt that anyone of us is right(unless andy and larry are out there posing under some bizzare name)

although i will say this

i have no doubt that between us all...we have the truth

that last post was me by the way....

continuing on this debate...

everyone looks for meaning in every scene...unlike real life...scenes in films are planned and put to story board so the problem is this

did the w brothers put a meaning into every scene or were they simply aware that people will look for a meaning where there is none and so are basically taking the piss out of us?

WE WILL NEVER KNOW cause they aint talking any time soon

an example of this in myself is the scene in m1 when morpheus and neo go to see the oracle...as they enter the room the scene cuts to a woman carrying a baby who looks up and smiles at morpheus...

after reloaded and before revolutions i pondered the meaning behind why this scene was shot and included in the film...i subsequently thought that this woman must be one of the couple who the oracle trusted and who betrayed her to save the child...

quite plainly i was wrong...

as for all the numbers and names etc...sometimes i think they were included not as symbolic references that have a context to the film but merely were included deliberately so that people noticed and discussed them and so heightning the hype over the film

money money money

To knnknn:

Thanks for taking time to make fair comment on my review. I think there is a great deal of value in this site and I am sure many people have similar feelings to the ones expressed by you and your webpage. I will certainly not defend the W Bros storytelling ability as I beleive it is their change in style from archtypical drama in "The Matrix" to covert symbolism in "Reloaded" and "Revolutions" that has caused so much of the fans confusion.

To the anomoly:

Yes it certainly is open to personal interpretation, much more than most blockbuster movies. This is why I compare the debates conducted on these forums to those of classical literature. Rarely do authors comment on the meaning behind much of their work and instead leave academics to debate over every comma. Perhaps the Ws intended to spark such a debate but I cannot say if that means that they included meaningless references, scenes or shots for that purpose. I would like to think they are better film makers than that, and surely Bound and The Matrix show that they are, which is why I challange the idea that all questions are not answered, but instead argue that it is their change of story telling technique after the first film that has sent us looking for answers to questions that were never asked.

the w brothers may well have better intentions but you cannot ignore the fact that it is the studio bosses who have the ultimate say in what is made and portrayed...

the need to make money out weighs every creative aspect of every film to these people...

as for the point of us searching for questions that were never asked...

i wholeheartedly agree with this...and perhaps this is the cause for many peoples dissapointment in the end...

the other problem is that revolurions was slated by the critics due to the fact that the film answered questions that they didnt even know were asked in reloaded and unlike us who dedicate some time to the meaning of the film...the critcs cannot as they have to review hundreds of films and so end up missing the message...

perhaps another problem with the matrix was the attempt to please everyone with the action/meaning mix...a lot of people go to see it expecting one or the other and the film just muddles with thier brains

the action fiends cant be bothered with the meaning as it just confuses them and the thinkers believe they are somehow above typical action films and so say they hate it.