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»A flaw in Reloaded. The Architect scene«


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A flaw in Reloaded. The Architect scene  

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I'm looking for an explanation here. Neo had to make a choice. He chose the door to the left. The Architect, in no uncertain terms, clearly stated and I quote, "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program. After which, you will be required to select from the Matrix 23 individuals - 16 female, 7 male - to rebuild Zion. Failure to comply with this process will result in a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix , which, coupled with the extermination of Zion, will ultimately result in the extinction of the entire human race."

Neo, failing to comply with the process by NOT going through the door on the right, thereby returning to the source, allowing a dissemination of the code he carries, did not cause "...a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix".

hmmm, any comments?

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Neo, failing to comply with the process by NOT going through the door on the right, thereby returning to the source, allowing a dissemination of the code he carries, did not cause "...a cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the Matrix".


THAT RAINING BEFORE THE SUPER BRAWL MAY BE THE SO-CALLED CATACLYSMIC SYSTEM CRASH.

OR MAY BE ARCHITECT KNOWS WHAT'S GONNA HAPPEN (SMITH OVERPOWERING).

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Shailesh, your reponse is appreciated. However, your answer is based on assumptions. Assumptions that do not satisfy the Architect's inexorable intendment of inevitability, specifically, the "cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the matrix", should Neo NOT go through the door on the right.

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I wish people would stop posting about this. There was one thread a little bit ago where someone answered it. Now there are 2 or 3 more threads started about it. Like I said, I hope the guy who answered this questions finds these threads and pastes the answer.

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This is a repeat answer from the same topic posted elsewhere by me. I felt I had posted this topic in the wrong section and posted it there. I was trying to do the right thing. So to repeat here as you did there... relax! I already looked for a response to my specific query in this forum and to my frustration, found nothing. Excuse the hell out of me. To be fair, I even searched through everything you had ever posted, especially considering that you said you've responded 3 times to this very subject. I found no such answer. No disrespect but frankly, you do a fair amount of complaining. Your informative contributions notwithstanding, you have a pattern of consistently professing how sick you are of people posting things that you have already responded to in the past and should have read by now. Rather egocentric if you ask me.

If you don't like a post, don't reply, ignore it, move on.
if you don't have an answer, don't reply, move on.
if others have asked about something that you've already responded to, either be kind and share the answer/link OR don't bother to reply and move on.

I'm sorry if my query has you all bent out of shape and your sick of us ignorant posters. I harmelessly asked about something I was curious about and I'm just looking for some insight. You have a problem with that?... ignore me and move on.

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I don't think there was any anger in my reply. There was the third time because I was a little annoyed that this post was everywhere. I think I did contribute to this topic by saying the answer in on here already so look for it. Looking through my posts wouldn't help because I am not the one who posted the answer. I'm sorry if my comment offended or annoyed you. I am not here to annoy anyone, just to share comments with other lovers of these movies. Hope you find the answer.

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earlf wrote:

Shailesh, your reponse is appreciated. However, your answer is based on assumptions. Assumptions that do not satisfy the Architect's inexorable intendment of inevitability, specifically, the "cataclysmic system crash, killing everyone connected to the matrix", should Neo NOT go through the door on the right.



yeah.. it really is an assumption. But as you can see the Architect says that Neo's 5 predecessors went through the right door to the source; he may not be knowing what happens if Neo choses the left door or may be he knows that it's bad for the system. It may increase probaility of a systemic anomaly taking control over the system itself.

One more thing .. if code of THE ONE is designed to chose right door how does the A knows what happens if Neo goes through the left door.

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Hey Matrix_Matt,
Thanks for keeping your cool with me! I guess I did sound sound a little harsh. It was my very first time here and I didn't feel very welcomed. I only posted the subject twice. If there is a third, I missed it. Perhaps the explanation I am looking for is there.

Shailesh. Thanks again for responding. You made me stop in my tracks and think about your supposition. However, the Architect did say that this will be the sixth time Zion has been destroyed, and they're exceedingly efficient at it. According to the Architct, Zion is going to be eradicated no matter Neo's choice. Neo just has to make the choice.
You said the Architect may not know what happens if the "left door" choice is made and as I think about it, you may be right! This could be the "blue pill, red pill" choice revisited.
Alternatively, if I were Neo, and I knew that going through the door on the left produces a catclysmic system crash, and I want the destruction of the matrix, I'd do whatever I could to cause that "cataclysmic system crash". That would kill the Architect too, right? no direspect to Trinity, but I wouldn't need her to convince me what to do. Pondering the question of the human loss in the Matrix, while in the computer room, I know would be tragic but that's the price for freedom. Humans would go on. Zion of 250,000 strong were started with 16 females - 7 males.
Regardless, the system DIDN'T crash as the Architect said (and lied) and now we got a third movie. Maybe that's the answer... The Architect is just a damn liar!

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The Architect didn't lie. He can't. There would've been a crash had Neo not reached the Source. The Architect was assuming he would never make it to the Source if he didn't go through the right door. If he didn't get to the Source and make that deal, Zion woud've been destroyed and the One couldn't choose anyone to rebuild it because he would never reach the Source. A chain reation would couse the eventual crash of the Matrix and everyone connected. The human race would become extinct and the machines would have to find a new form of power. But Neo did reach the Source and save all mankind, as the story goes. This isn't as good of an explination as was posted before, but I hope it helps.

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