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When logging on to this website, one finds a section pages under the title entitled: "Matrix Imploded." Whoever wrote that needed a good slap on the hand -- I just sent him an email, labeling him "surfaceboy", correcting his issues with REVOLUTIONS. Thought I'd post them here too for all those who are looking strictly at the third installment for answers, rather than encompassing the story of the human/machine war as a whole to find them, and appreciating the third movie for its contributions to that story. Sometimes this takes thinking, but often not too much. Enjoy:
I think until you learn your lesson, I'll call you surfaceboy. Ok then surfaceboy, let's look at this. Your thoughts on points made in Reloaded irrelevant in Revolutions, let me bring some light to them for you, even in your own denial. Here goes:
"Take the speech of the Architect. A masterpiece of filmmaking. During the months after Reloaded his words were dissected in Matrix forums. "This is the 6th time we will destroy Zion".
Did this have ANY effect on Revolutions? None."
What effect are you looking for? It's a matter-of-fact detail about the history between the machines and the humans. You're looking too hard for details from one installment to the next, rather than piecing the whole story together.
"What would differ if Neo hadn't gone to the Architect? Not much. Smith would have spread and Neo could have gone to the machine god directly."
Your discrediting Neo's meeting with the Architect is mind-boggling. Had Neo not met with the Architect, he'd not have foregone the change which connected him to the machines more directly. He'd not have received further instruction from the Oracle that Smith was the machines' weakness, and thus not have known what arrangement to propose to Deus Ex Machina, and the machines would have destroyed Zion. He and the humans would not have known about the past Neos and Zions, thus adding to their history between the machines and the humans (Morpheus indicates early on that their information has many gaping holes). It was Neo's going to the Architect that ended the war. The machines led him there so they could use him to rebuild Zion, expecting him to save humanity. But they gave him two doors because he had to do it voluntarily, otherwise there would have been no choice in the matter, and without cooperation, he would have been useless. The Architect is taken aback when Neo chooses the opposite door. The war could not end without Neo cutting a deal with Deus Ex Machina -- the humans would have been slaughtered in the final battle. None of that could have taken place without him visiting the Architect first.
"Persephone says about the Merovingian: "The Merovingian was once like Neo". Months of discussions followed. Was he a former One?
Effect on Revolutions? None. But why did she say it then? Because the Merovingian LOVED her once? How trivial can it get?"
Again, surface, surfaceboy. You're thinking too hard. First of all, effective scriptwriters tie in interesting yet not entirely pertinent details to a story as they write, so give them some credit. Every line of every movie doesn't have to tie in totally. This line, however, does allow for much speculation. Let the brain work -- quit damming it with squabbling.
"In Reloaded Councillor Hamann talks with Neo about "We need machines". In the bible Hamann betrayed his own people.
Effect on Revolutions? None."
First of all, you realize that he sums this one up himself: "No, no point." Why are you looking for a point where he specifically says there is none? Gosh. But more importantly, there is a point to what he says, through the entire story. The effect it has on Revolutions: the biggest one of all. Look deeper.
"In Animatrix one whole episode ("Kid's story") is dedicated to The Kid. He was the first who could self-eject from the Matrix.
Seemed important.
Effect on Revolutions? None.
Anybody else could have run around bringing the bullets in Revolutions."
Dude, it's called Hollywood. There are major parts and minor parts in any movie. He wasn't vital, obviously, but he colored the story with more detail, added some comic relief and youth to an otherwise totally dismal world, and in the Animatrix, shows yet another facet of human control and capability vs. machine control. Give the kid and the writers a little credit, will you.
"In Matrix Reloaded the Kid brings Neo a spoon.
Wow, a message.
Effect on Revolutions? None. It could have been a fork. [Sarcasm]"
You need a slap on the hand for this one, my man. You're trying to connect the spoon to Revolutions? The spoon is directly connected to Reloaded, has nothing to do with Revolutions. When you wrote this, seems you were scraping for reasons why Revolutions wasn't full of pithy answers to the second movie. Ironically, the answer to this one is found in The Matrix. Since you knew that already, why the fuss? Or didn't you?
"The sex scene between Neo and Trinity and the rave dance?
Pointless."
You're completely on-point with this one.
"The love between Neo and Trinity?
Irrelevant to Revolutions."
Man, what is up with your brain? Hehe, disregard my taunting putdowns. This ties to so many things, it's ridiculous. Specifically, Neo and Trinity both save each other numerous times, completely through love. First episode: Trinity revives Neo through her love. Second episode: Neo's whole decision not to save humanity was through the personal love he had for one person: Trinity. If their love had not existed, then the machines would have retained control over humanity. This doesn't all have to lead to the third episode, as you for some odd reason wish so much for, but it does anyway. "She's in love." says Persephone as Trinity is about to sacrifice everything for the sake of Neo. Without her, Neo would have been stuck in the train station probably until the Merovinjian fetched him to do as he pleased, or just left him there. In turn, without Trinity, Neo would never have made it to Deus Ex Machina and made a truce for the sake of humanity. As I adequately put it, everything in the end bent on the love between Trinity and Neo.
"Niobe pilots her hovercraft thru hell in Revolutions. Meaningless. Just eye candy to release a computer game where you can fly your spaceships thru tunnels."
Again, pettiness. First off, it's Hollywood -- can you not appreciate good cinema for what it's worth instead of looking so deep into every single thing until all has lost its meaning? There's this thing, you may have heard of it, it's called suspense -- a technique used timelessly through books, stories, music, and drama, to keep its audience captivated. Personally, I felt that this particular scene contributed greatly to my money's worth for the third installment.
"Smith spreads like mad. Now there are thousands of him. Did this have any effect on Neo and their fights?
Not in Revolutions. Could have still been one Smith vs. Neo."
Did it ever occur to you that Smith was taking over with multiple motives? He didn't want to in the first place, he had no choice but to stay in the Matrix, which thing he worked to his advantage in the end. Notice how glad he is once he finds the Oracle, and even gladder once he's assimilated her. Could it be that his entire goal was to find the Mother of the Matrix? In any case, the point wasn't that Neo was fighting only one Smith. The point was that Smith was taking over the Matrix altogether. There was no reason, if you want to keep looking at the surface, for a thousand of them to attack him -- one was clearly enough. Meanwhile, one Smith vs. Neo, as you put it, is a VERY different scenario. Without the world of Smiths, there would have been no arrangement, and the machines would not have called off their attack, and humanity would have been wasted.
C'mon, man. Don't let a fellow devoted fan shoot down all your arguments -- it only shows that you've not opened up to more than what you see, barely. You make some good arguments and no mistake, but the point of this series is to depict the ultimate world war between what is real and what is not, a war which the world happens to be battling as we speak, a war that will thicken as years go by. The more you look at the big picture of this show, accounting for details for what they're worth rather than blowing them all up into massive plot elements, the more you'll enjoy it, and be better prepared for the apocalypse to come. Anyhow, good luck witchaself.
And good luck to anyone else who mistakes the third film for being flawed at its lack for other answers. It should have been obvious by this one that the bros aren't interested in disclosing every detail, like every other film made (and catered toward big and more-babied audiences in that way, I might add). Cudos to them for making a puzzler out of a great series.
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