»Mom?«

In Revolutions, Smith calls The Oracle "Mom", our first thoughts obviously are "The Oracle is the mother of The Matrix", but if you think about it, the reason why Smith calls her "mom" is because it was The Oracle who created him. Thus, making her HIS mom.

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The Oracle: You bastard! Smith: You would know, mom

The Oracle created Smith, so that the machines would need Neo. If Smith wouldn't have infested The Matrix, then the Deus Ex Machina would've never made the deal with Neo, and Zion would've been destroyed.

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The Architecht: You play a dangerous game. The Oracle: Change always is.

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yeah...its true...now we come to the reason why does the oracle want peace with the humans? she is a program, a machine...whats in it for her? boredom maybe? yeah all she does is make cookies all day, no wonder she wants to do something with her crappy "house wife" life...

If she was the "mother of The Matrix"; the sentient program designed originally to explore certain aspects of the human mind, she became attached to humans. She may have developed something similar to human emotions. Or maybe the war is as bad for the machines as it is for humans.

I think he was being derogative. Smith sees the Oracle as someone of great power, and yet someone very weak aand stupid. He's calling her Mom because she seems like a very weak person.

You may be right in one thing, that Smith's remark is somehow sarcastic, but you need to pay attention to the entire dialog.

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i think he was being derogative. Smith sees the Oracle as someone of great power, and yet someone very weak aand stupid. He's calling her Mom because she seems like a very weak person.

If she is so weak, then why is it that he is only able to beat Neo after he took The Oracle?

He says "You would know, mom" like saying, you would know because you created me.

First, I will never understand why people are fascinated with the "who is the mother of the matrix?" issue. Who cares who the "mother of the matrix" is? So, Oracle is the "mother of the matrix". So what? what does that *mean*? What does it *tell us*? Anything?

As for *why* the Oracle would "want peace", I reckon it's because that's what she's programmed to work for. The job of the "Oracle" program was to learn about human nature so as to enslave humans better, with less violence (i.e. make "peace").

I believe that Smith is a creation of the Oracle... and perhaps only the Oracle. You should pay closer attention to the dialogue that has already been quoted.

"You're a bastard"
"You would know mom"

A bastard is a fatherless child. It is as if he wouldn't recognize any connection between himself and the Architect. When Smith says you would know mom, its as if he knows he was created in her vision.

This seems to make sense- creating smith to provide a bargaining chip with which Neo could save Zion- but several questions come from there.

Smith gains the understanding of the oracle when he replicated into her (that's why he recalls what he is supposed to say). If this is so, why could Smith not realize that replicating Neo would lead to his own demise? One could say that despite the knowledge, he is compelled to copy because he must (purpose), but this seems sketchy.

Did the oracle create Smith as we know him? In other words, did she know about the whole malfunction, crossing code with Neo, growing out of control? If she did, it seems like she could have done things easier (maybe tell Neo what's going on, lol)

What exactly happened to Smith? Did Neo self-destruct on purpose, and inturn negate Smith's purpose (which was to end the anomaly)? Or did Smith simply overstep his bounds by trying to replicate something jacked in directly to the machine source? I tend to agree with the former.

Some other random stuff:

Some say that Smith's mutation leads him to the same purpose (cancelling out variables in an attempt to nullify the anomaly) on a greater scale (not just the Matrix). If this is so, explain how his original purpose as an agent was one of balancing an equation.
Smith's cat call: when Smith makes his final copy (from Neo) and asks "am I done?", what exactly happens?
The movie shows the power cords attached to Neo start surging. Does the machine being overpower Smith? Does Neo borrow the machine's power to destroy himself, and smith as well?
Or is the death of the anomaly the "reset point" that also complete's smith purpose? As theorized by lauraL, Smith's replications are temporary. Couldn't this mean that Neo is still there, somewhere?
When the architect tells Neo, in Reloaded, that the process (of the visit) has altered his conciousness, does this mean that Neo has established a connection to the source? (thus explaining the real-world powers)
What exactly is the machine being?
The machines use humans as power because the skies are scorched, but it seemed like there was plenty of sun above the clouds. Why can't the machines harvest the solar power from above?
When taunted/asked by Smith, Neo says that he simply choses to get back up. I understand the juxtaposition between Neo's ability of choice versus Smith's inability to understand his purpose, but does that line indicate him realizing that he must die/give in to Smith's replication? Or was Neo aware of his role all along (before going to speak to the machine being, anyway)?

Did anyone notice that as the Architect comes towards the Oracle at the end of M3, we get a far off shot of her and she's wearing sunglasses. The sun hasn't even come up yet but thats what's she's wearing. As the Architect approaches more closely, she takes them off and is putting them in her purse.

Why would she be wearing sunglasses without there being a sun?

Does it have something to do with what Laurence Fishburne said in an interview in M3, something to the effect - when I took off my glasses for the fight with the agent on top of the truck it was because I wanted to show that I was vulnerable at that moment.

They nearly always wear sunglass: Smith vs. Neo in heavy rain and Smith turned off the sun -> Neo wears sunglasses.

Since when did this thread become a discussion about sunglasses? I thought we were discussing the origin/purpose of Smith here!

answering the random questions in an above post based on the expanded theory that i posted in this matrix-explained.com....

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Was Smith's transformation due entirely to his confrontation with Neo? What role did the Oracle have in actually transforming Smith into a self-replicating program?

the smith program's mutation was due to his confrontation with neo. beforehand he was just another agent of the system - unaware of the existance of an anamoly. the oracle program, facilitating simulated choices in a simulation of life, is used to create regular agents in the system to guard against variables that would destabalize the matrix program. a knowledge of variables in relation to the destabilizing varibale would be needed for the agent program to be effective.

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Some say that Smith's mutation leads him to the same purpose (cancelling out variables in an attempt to nullify the anomaly) on a greater scale (not just the Matrix). If this is so, explain how his original purpose as an agent was one of balancing an equation.

the answer lies within your question. the agent programs are responsible for balaning the equation that is the matrix program - and only that program.

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Smith's cat call: when Smith makes his final copy (from Neo) and asks "am I done?", what exactly happens? The movie shows the power cords attached to Neo start surging. Does the machine being overpower Smith? Does Neo borrow the machine's power to destroy himself, and smith as well? Or is the death of the anomaly the "reset point" that also complete's smith purpose?

this is actually a loaded questin since you can equate the anamoly in and of itself a borrowed power of the machines. however this borrowed power's function is in essence a reset point for the matrix program. the reset point would destory all current programs sentient to the matrix program prior to the reset.

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As theorized by lauraL, Smith's replications are temporary. Couldn't this mean that Neo is still there, somewhere?

this is a difficult question to answer. it all depends on what you beleive would happen once the anamoly has returned to the source - does the one continue to live or is the one destroyed in the process? with all the references to the second coming of Jesus in the film, it would appear that a seperation of the anamoly with the one would produce a martyr.

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When the architect tells Neo, in Reloaded, that the process (of the visit) has altered his conciousness, does this mean that Neo has established a connection to the source? (thus explaining the real-world powers)

the process of embodiying the anamoly has changed neo's conciousness - since the anamoly encapsulates the code or equation that is AI. an establised connection would be misleading phrasing given this informatin. a more accurate account is that neo has established a pre-determined path to the source within the life simulation that is the matrix and has complete knowledge of the code or equation that is artificial intelligence.

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What exactly is the machine being?

the machine being is a representation of the singular conciousness known as AI. it is evidenced by the thousands of sentinals used to animate the machine being - all working as one.

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The machines use humans as power because the skies are scorched, but it seemed like there was plenty of sun above the clouds. Why can't the machines harvest the solar power from above?

to harvest solar power over scorched skies, either a structure would need to be errected that would breach the cover or a power station would need to be inserted and maintained in orbit around the earth. since man and machine were at war at the time of the inception of the dark sky, any construction of such a structure or station would be hindered. the control over the human race serves as an efficient double vicotry for the machines - vanquishment of the enemy and a stable energy source. in short, the human race was enslaved because it was an efficient solution to two probems.

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When taunted/asked by Smith, Neo says that he simply choses to get back up. I understand the juxtaposition between Neo's ability of choice versus Smith's inability to understand his purpose, but does that line indicate him realizing that he must die/give in to Smith's replication? Or was Neo aware of his role all along (before going to speak to the machine being, anyway)?

the smith program does not have an inability to understand his purpose. the smith program does not have the ability to deny his purpose. neo was aware of his purpose before going to speak to the machine being. ever since he was freed form the matrix - he has undoubtedly heard the prophecy regarding the one ending the war between man and machine. since his meeting with the architect, neo has learned that his function is to merely reset the equation of the life simulation and its alternate choice. by going to machine city before he enters the matrix - he fullfills both his function and the prophecy.

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there are many implications of the oracle's part in relation to the matrix.

if the oracle program's solution facitlitated choice in a simulation of life, then the simulated choices that the program has created for the enslaved populace must be adhereed to in order to have a stable system. agents are created for this purpose. the agents would have to have (at the very least) a limited knowledge of possible choices for an unstable variable to effectively deal with the instability. in effect, the oracle is the source - or mother - of all agents.

other implications include the oracle's relationship to zion and the program's intention for creating a prohpecy.

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Considering that the brothers obviously have indian influence, it would be hard to not consider this:

In tantric philosophy, the manifested aspect of the universe is often called the Divine Mother. The creating consciousness resides in sat-chit-ananda (truth-consciousness-bliss) and is not in the world of creation. Out of this stillness the thousand (infinite) forms emanate.

Shakti is said to be a creative intelligence inherent in all of creation. This is the individual intelligence that makes a leaf grow.

Programs in the matrix are like shakti. The architect created them then let go. All the programs consult the oracle (so says rama-kandra) and she seems to be a mother of them, the coordinating force.

The tantrics add that the universe is not just sat-chit-ananda but also iccha shakti, jnana shakti, and kriya shakti. Iccha shakti is the power of will/choice, the will to create. Jnana shakti is the power of knowledge. Kriya shakti is the power to act.

This concept is often put in the anthropomorphic form of Shiva and Shakti. A personal form helps us relate and understand cosmic principles (the oracle as an old grandma). Shiva represents consciousness (architect), shakti representing the creative force. Shiva can not act without the creative force of shakti.

Tantra is a non-dual system in that the creating force is present in the universe, thus the Oracle's involvement and medling in the world of the matrix. Out of sat-chit-ananda is the power of will, action, and knowledge.

see tantra thread: