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Why was Seraph's code in gold in the matrix reloaded?

Well, judging by revolutions, there could be a few answers.

Maybe seraph is more than just a program, and hes connected directly to the source. Maybe its a religious meaphor and seraph is connected to god. Maybe god and "The source" is one and the same. Perhaps maybe the source is "light" and in most religious circles, light means everything, like god, so maybe seraph is light, because of his wisdom and apparent decency?

Still not entirely sure. Any other ideas?

I was also thinking that Seraph was connected to the source, but: the way I saw it Smith was deleted by the machines when he overtook neo because neo was connected to the source, which Smith didn't know (he was lured into a trap) That way the machined got a hold of Smith and could delete him (they lost the grip, Smith's ear plug in the matrix 1 right)

but then if i got it somehow right, why didn't the machines delete smith when he overtook Seraph?

ah, remember that we didn't see any other programs in code. so, we don't know what they look like.

we saw the Agents yes, but they were riding around in humans so it makes sense that their code would be green. it's my guess that pure programs (Merovingian, Twins, Persephone, Seraph, Architect, Keymaker, Oracle) also were in gold code, like 01 (in Revolutions).

oracle was not gold. remember the time agent smith took over the oracle, there's a green scene showing oracle sitting on a chair and agent standing. i don't remember any goldish pixel in this scene.

nevertheless, i think that seraph WAS before working with merovingian. but then for a reason he left him and began to protect the oracle. in the scene at the club hell before the guns speak, merovingian shows his anger against seraph. that's where i get this idea from.

the oracle is also changing body's so maybe she is in a human body program, like all the humans plugged to the matrix

As we have been wondering in the previous posts that there could be a possibility that Seraph has been the former One, which would make sense in many ways, and everything is a match, read that post - won't bother to write the same stuff here again.
But as it could be so, then it wouldn't be odd that the Seraph gives out the gold code, and that is one match to the previous lines that I wrote.

I believe Seraph is a former "the one" . He may have chosen exile in the matrix after his "the one" purpose was done. The oracle then found a purpose for Seraph and now his purpose is "To protect what matters most" He's in charge of Security in the Matrix.

In Reloaded, when Neo went to see the Oracle; He is met first by Seraph and saw the golden glow (special code). I think the unique golden glow signifies power (nothing more, nothing less). Seraph then proceed to test Neo to make sure that he is not a fake" one" . We all know the "One" is very powerful, so in order to test someone to see if they are the "One" , that individual must also has similar power.

m4jor_p41n wrote:

I believe Seraph is a former "the one" . He may have chosen exile in the matrix after his "the one" purpose was done. The oracle then found a purpose for Seraph and now his purpose is "To protect what matters most" He's in charge of Security of the Matrix. In Reloaded, when Neo went to see the Oracle; He is met first by Seraph and saw the golden glow (special code). I think the unique golden glow signifies power (nothing more, nothing less). Seraph then proceed to test Neo to make sure that he is not a fake" one" . We all know the "One" is very powerful, so in order to test someone to see if they are the "One" , that individual must also has similar power.

cool

m4jor_p41n wrote:

I think the unique golden glow signifies power (nothing more, nothing less).

Maybe so, but that doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Why would Neo see such code in a different color? And if that was the case, wouldn't other things possibly be gold (and maybe in varying shades of gold/green?)

I think Seraph is qualitatively different, although it is true we do not see everyone in code. Maybe others would have been gold too.

Also, in the real world Neo saw things in gold as well. Was it the same exact shade?

I asked a religious friend of mine what a Seraph is and this is what he told me. In the bible, a seraphim or seraph sat beside god and had six wings. Two wings covered his face, two his feet, and the other two are used for flying. These were metaphors for poverty, chastity, and obedience. He covers his face as a sign of humilty (poverty). He covers his feet (a hebrew euphemism for the lower body including crotch) as a sign of chastity. And obedience, in which he flies to do god's bidding. The hebrew word "seraph" means "to burn" and is also tranlated to "fiery serpent". The hebrews envisioned a seraph to be a fiery winged serpent. This may explain why Seraph has that glow w/in the matrix.

Seraph might be the former one, but generally he might be any of the previous Ones.

Neo & The Architect Dialogue:

Architect: ... the function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry reinserting the prime program after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female 7 male, to rebuild Zion.

But, Seraph might be something else too, he mustn't be the an exile program, he also might be a program like the oracle which STILL has a purpose.

standalone wrote:

But, Seraph might be something else too, he mustn't be the an exile program, he also might be a program like the oracle which STILL has a purpose.

errr... Why need to speculate? Not necessary.

Straight from the horse's mouth:
Seraph said it himself " I protect which is most important" so protecting is his purpose. He is in charge of Security in the Matrix world.


There is only one program like the "oracle" and that is the Oracle program. No imitation , no knockoffs or fakes.Nothing else is like it.

If there were another program like the "oracle" . Merv, the frenchman (information trafficer), the underground boss who knows everything that goes on in the Matrix world , would had tried to get that program.

Since there is only one program like the oracle, it is rare and hard to get, that is why Merv (frenchman) was using Neo to trade for the "oracle's eye".

m4jor_p41n wrote:

errr... Why need to speculate? Not necessary.

Yes, there are certain evidences, so but WE ARE ALL speculating, aren't we?

m4jor_p41n wrote:

Straight from the horse's mouth: Seraph said it himself " I protect which is most important" so protecting is his purpose. He is in charge of Security in the Matrix world.

No. He is in charge of Security of the Oracle, not the Matrix world. Otherwise, Merovingian wouldn't be HUNTING for the Oracle and her eyes.

m4jor_p41n wrote:

There is only one program like the "oracle" and that is the Oracle program. No imitation , no knockoffs or fakes.Nothing else is like it.

True. She is the mother of the Matrix.

m4jor_p41n wrote:

If there were another program like the "oracle" . Merv, the frenchman (information trafficer), the underground boss who knows everything that goes on in the Matrix world , would had tried to get that program.

Possible. But Seraph might be a program who has less priviledges than the Oracle and the Merovingian but definitely more than other programs.

My point was, everybody is speculating about Seraph. He might be the One, any of the previous five, but also he might not.

Read my post Religion in the Trilogy, all will be answered!

Standalone,

Regarding Seraph,

I said "He is in charge of Security (in) the Matrix world."
I never said he was in charge for Security (of) the Matrix world. Please don't misquote me

cos i rem when they were at the park, in reloaded, oracle told neo "prog get del or replaced by new ones, happens al the time." she seemed to be toking bout herself i think.
why mero din get the new ones? perhaps he has limitations. as in he could onli take in exiles. as in like agent johnson said, keymaker is an exile too. perhaps there are no more revisions of oracle and the matrix does not nd her anymore? so tts why mero wants her so badly.
i'd say oracle is an existing prog in all matrix as a database, recording all data in the matrix, so in every ver other than the 1st, she has the "foresight" cos she has the similar data that was brought forwrd from the prev matrixes. savvy?
seraph: fiery serpent. maybe. think maybe the bros din think of that too. look, its the whole world's fans against the two bros. humans make mistakes yah?

madmaxmedia wrote:

m4jor_p41n wrote: I think the unique golden glow signifies power (nothing more, nothing less). Maybe so, but that doesn't seem to make much sense to me. Why would Neo see such code in a different color? And if that was the case, wouldn't other things possibly be gold (and maybe in varying shades of gold/green?) I think Seraph is qualitatively different, although it is true we do not see everyone in code. Maybe others would have been gold too. Also, in the real world Neo saw things in gold as well. Was it the same exact shade?

i think he never sees anything gold in the matrix. so i agree that seraph is the 5th "one".

so if Seraph has golden code because i was the one then so should neo right?

and another thing. Are we so sure that all the exiled programs realy were exiled? i mean, they all had a purpose in the big picture...

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and another thing. Are we so sure that all the exiled programs realy were exiled? i mean, they all had a purpose in the big picture...

Reloaded transcript:
Oracle: They have their reasons, but usually a program chooses exile when it faces deletion.
Neo: And why would a program be deleted?
Oracle: Maybe it breaks down. Maybe a better program is created to replace it, happens all the time. And when it does, a program can either choose to hide here, or return to the source.

Mr. Anderson,
I guess you can say an exile has a purpose, but it is not the purpose endorse by the authority in the Matrix world. An exile has a purpose to meet his agenda only, not for the agenda of the Matrix.

Example in real life: A gangster has a purpose, and that purpose is to make lots of money and gain more power, but the gangster's purpose is not the purpose that is endorse by authority in a peaceful society.

about the exiled programs:

we have been fooled many times like, the oracle, she was actually on the same team as the arcitect. How do we realy know who is on whos side? maybe they just played their role to guide neo...