»23 Humans For New Zion«

Have you ever noticed that the number of humans chosen to populate a new Zion (23) is the same as half the number of chromosomes in human cells? (46) When beings reproduce they send half of their chromosomic data to combine with half of their mate's data. This is significant because machines are seen incorporating nature into their way of 'life.' It is also important because machines arn't random and have to have a reason to do things.

That is very observant of you, now why do you think this is relevent, I'd be interested to hear your theory...

I think this is pretty good insight. There was an article, which stated that Wachovski Bs. label parts of Zion with biological terms (though now I don't remember, where the article was).

Not to mention that main(?) part of Zion -- the vertical tunnel with many horizontal pipes across -- IMHO resembles DNA.

Dear The_Anomaly


I would also like to know if your theory does have an explanation why 16 females and 7 males?
Considering that this selection will end up having 16 XX and 7 XY sexual chromosomes, in case they are all fertile and......
Regards,

Atreides

I believe the 23 humans is pertinent because it seems to show signs of the machines incorporating nature into their system. Machines are not like people, they are not random and they must have some reason to do what they do, so they used the number 23 as the number of people to repopulate Zion. Either literally or figuratively it serves as a symbol of Machines becoming more human or way to show that Machines use humans for more than power.

While your responses show a deep level of thought, I feel that it is possible that you are over thinking the subject. While numbers IN the matrix can be symbolic, some numbers are symbolic of a personal connection to the Wachowskis. For instance in the first matrix when neo wakes up after being "bugged" the time on the clock is one of the brothers wife's birthday. I think the usage of 23 is similar. The Wachowskis are from Chicago. One of the producers of the first matrix commented that when they got rich they blew all of thier money on f-ing Bulls jerseys. I believe that the appearance of 23 is a personal tribute from two avid Bulls fans to Michael Jordan. IN fact, this is probably why Link always is watching what Neo does through a screen, much like a sports fan would watch a game on TV. Cheering when Jordan hits the game winner, or in this case when Neo saves the day. Of course, this may only be a truth...

It's not 23 it's 16 females + 7 males + 1 male Neo
= 24
= 16:8 = 2:1

as is written on my site and at the symbolism section

well the most practical reason for having a 2:1 ratio of F-M would be the fact that the race would propegate faster... and no zion means no one getting unplugges = BSOD

1 + 23 = 24, also used as the number for the Elders of Zion in the Revelation of St John.

0=1

The Architect never said what would happen to The One once the new Zion was created. He only said that the purpose of the anomoly was to select 23 people to start a new Zion. He never implied, however, that The One would or would not participate in the propagation of the new city so I suppose it is impossible to assume either way, or it is only correct to assume both ways are possible.

I also believe that 23 is more correct, not 24... The function of the one is return to the source after he chooses the 23 individuals... 23 could be, like The_Anomoly said, related to half the number of chromosomes in human cells. 23 is the minimum number of chromosomes a cell must have to works normally... Also Zion really looks like a DNA...

But so why 16 women and 7 men? I don't know...
16 in Cabala is the number of the temple
and 7 is the symbol of all religion. The holy biblic number

Obviously, there will be more women than men, because that way they will reproduce faster..

I also think it is important to examine the legality of The Architect's statements(all of them.) For if he is lying then the information procured here is not very relevent and perhaps the machines just pulled it out of thin air to make something up?

I think he lies when he makes his strange face looking to his bottom-left when he talks about a "lesser mind"

You should also note 2 + 3 = 5. We can't forget the Law of 5's now can we?

knnknn wrote:

It's not 23 it's 16 females + 7 males + 1 male Neo = 24 = 16:8 = 2:1 as is written on my site and at the symbolism section

Okay arguements have been made both ways on whether or not the One goes back to Zion with the 23 people he chooses, but for now lets assume that the One does go back to Zion to help recreate it. Lets also assume that the last One chose to repopulate Zion and he/she also got to stay in Zion. Who is it? Who of the characters in Zion was the One before Neo?

In M1 didn't morpheus talk about the first of us that were unplugged, father of Zion, etc.... didn't he prophesize the return of the one? this could be the previous one and also was allowed to go to zion to rebuild it.

I can't remember exactly what morpheus said, i'll have to go rewatch it now. I love an excuse to watch matrix

Crosbb

firekeeper wrote:

Obviously, there will be more women than men, because that way they will reproduce faster..

Sounds like poligamy to me... or perhaps the (early) Mormon interpretation of Zion?

GP? PG? PGP and GPG are both encryption software.

Has anyone seen if 16 females, 7 males correlates with the council of Zion in number and gender makeup?

well obviously he does take a part in it because in m1 mopheus says that "it was he who freed the first of us, taught us the truth"