»HOW TO UNDERSTAND THE MOVIE....AND GET REPLIES!«

After debugging my theories and again and again... looking at the movies zillion times I got finally all....

I must be sinceer nobody I feel is able to understand these movies but before all we must have a background of oriental philosophies and way to think/hope....

THE KEY TO ALL MOVIES IS REINCARNATION....

The anomaly that all machines try continuosly to control is reincarnation...
The Oracle dies 2 times...
Neo dies once... but he will return...
Trinity dies but she will return...
And everyone will return...
in their next lives...

Absurd but the only answer... The failure of the movie is to not explain this well....

There is only one way to understand it., and it's absurd maniacally hided by the brothers.. .and this is nearly impossible to get... but only the oracle knows it, read carefully these words:

Each time the one will REINCARNATE gains power and skills, until someday... the fate of machine will end (The architect is surprised by his progress)... the only hope for machines is only got by the Oracle, the only intuitive program of the machines that works for mediation between human race and machines, knowing that making a step to the human race the Oracle demonstrates that all the programs inside the machines world are not that bad... Even if they have the power to control the humans, they demonstrate mercy for the human race... hoping that in the future The one will have mercy for them...

BRRRR.... Terribel explanation I believe...

I made a mistake...

The anomaly is the Reincarnation of Neo and human race... otherwise machines would be able to control the world....

Every reincarnation Neo has an upgrade... like all Agents... (The Architect notices that)....

The only great big error of the Brother is the language of the movie, it is very crypted.. and it's very hard to understand... The movie trilogy starts assuming we already know all oriental philosophies... And doesn't give us a definitive hand to understand where we have to look to understand it...
So the movie risk for many of us to not be understood... Because we don't know the basics.... And many people that think they have understood this movie aren't really sure or are confused... basically they lie because they don't explain eachother what is the solution...

VERY BIG RISK... IT WILL TAKE AGES TO PEOPLE TO UNDERSTAND IT... IF ONLY THE DIALOGUES WERE NOT CRYPTED... AND A LITTLE DEEPER DEGRESSION ON REINCARNATION THEORIES.... MMMM... THAT IS THE BIG BUG...

OTHERWISE.... NOW THAT I GOT IT.... WORK OF ART... I CHANGED MY MIND BRUTALLY...

SEQUELS WILL COME OF COURSE... IT IS ASSURED... BECAUSE MANY PEOPLE STILL HAVE TO UNDERSTAND WHAT I SAID.... AND THEY STILL ASK FOR THE REPLY, I AGREE WITH THEM IT'S NOT EASY TO UNDERSTAND IT....

TERRIBLE.... THE BROTHERS ARE NOT HUMAN I BELIEVE....

I WANT TO SEE THEIR FACE!

Ok well if anyone has questions about how thi show that, what's Smith role in the story, why he is able to... bla bla bla...

I will show that everything now has a reply!

However if you see all this movie's message is the same as Terminator's one and 2 messages... this movie smells very much of copy...

Compare Terminator one with Matrix... (decrypt the message behind the movies) (Fight for freedom)

Then

Terminator 2 and 3 and Matrix Reloaded adn Revolutions... The message is the same again... That anyone is fully bad...

It's a very interesting point of view how these movies will fight eachother... with the same messages... and which one will win....
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But in the future.... "The Master of Light" will crash everything, every theory... Hehhe wait for my story... do you know I am a storywriter?

PREPARE FOR THE COUNTDOWN.... THE HUMAN RACE WILL CHANGE....

u are a raving lunatic and your theory is badly flawed...



here is to you

Nope, neither reincarnation, wtf are you kidding me?

I know... I understand you are absolutely disappointed by my analisys... The problem is understanding all the movie and what really the Oracle says, and what really happen in the movie...

It is strongly recommended books about the theories of reincarnation and other philosophic books before watching this movie... This is why everything still sucks so bad in our minds...

Everything is about reincarnation, precisely the Oracle announces that one day "the One" will return and will free human race...

Therefore this reincarnation of Neo it's not the first... it's the sixth...
Prospecting that one day the One will have enough power to destroy the machines for these reasons:
- In the first meeting... The Oracle says Neo that he's not the One, at his current form he's still not ready....Maybe in his next life he will be able to accomplish to free his race...
- The Architect and the Merovigian notice the upgrade from his predecessor...
- The choice, what is the choice? The choice is to sacrifice his life for Morpheus and for hope... standing the words of the first talk...
- The oracle says he had to die when the sentinels were attacking Morpheus at the end of Reloaded.... but he wasn't ready EVEN (assuming he wasn't able to save the human world) for that (standing on what the Oracle says to Neo in Revolutions)...
- The Oracle unbalances the equation to demonstrate Neo that not all the machines are bad with the hope of integration between both species...

And at the end of the movie the Oracle say to the little girl that she strongly believe that The One will return...

There's heavvily reference to reincarnation in this movie and I think it's the key the Wachowski's bros were looking at this movie...

There isn't another true explanation, I know that it isn't still perfect but I think that's the most near... at present... Question please... don't bash... And watch again the movie now!

Of course I am not normal, this movie made me....

I know that! But do you think that the Wachowski bros are normal?

To better understand this movie first you have to get !

lairbox2 wrote:

- In the first meeting... The Oracle says Neo that he's not the One, at his current form he's still not ready....Maybe in his next life he will be able to accomplish to free his race... - The Oracle unbalances the equation to demonstrate Neo that not all the machines are bad with the hope of integration between both species... And at the end of the movie the Oracle say to the little girl that she strongly believe that The One will return... There's heavvily reference to reincarnation in this movie and I think it's the key the Wachowski's bros were looking at this movie...

Listen, i agree with what the oracle says to Neo "...your next life maybe..." and as you know that is exactly what happened. He died and refused (like a rogue program) and he became the One. That is it. I also believe in the part of integration between both species. I even posted something like that myself.

But what i dislike is that you believe that is the MAIN or the ONLY, or the KEY of the movie. Nope... certainly it is an important part of the plot, but we have to think about it as a whole. We will always marvel of this world, because of its depth and beauty.

I am sorry... my english is not that good

I am really sorry to say that words... I am open for thought exchange normally, but you know this movie makes people crazy and I falled into the bottle!

However I want to ask you a big question, what is the main purpose of mankind?

- The reply is peace, freedom, life preservation and progress....

Do you really feel that this theory can fit?

- I feel no...

Do you think that as the movie ends mankind is free?

- I think not so much...

Do you think that machine world is much more free?

- As far as I know... they can still control human race and progress their technology... if one day they will develop the technology able to power on themselves.. they will destroy human race... It's inevitable, because that will definitively fix their bug and free themselves... ("You won't let it happen!You still need human race to survive!)

Do you feel that it is right that someone else decides whatever if you have to die or not?
- The matrix is still control...

Do you believe that's good that A.I. machines are still parasite of human race?

- I guess no...

In this case the choice to die is only in the hand of the machines, and Neo has no other choice to save Morpheus, the union key between the two worlds....

There is one error in the talk that Smith is telling to Neo: "There is no escaping reason, no denying purpose", the purpose is tje evolution of the specie.... In this case machines are in the condition to decide. and to force Neo to death... and progress... while humans not... But in the future the balance could be to the part of the humans (The next reincarnation of Neo could destroy them all)... and she is working to unbalance the equation to demonstrate that not all the machines are evil...

Smith is basically trying to evolute... getting everything... this infection has been made by Neo to Smith... in fact the purpose of human race is to evolute...

...that's why the movie is going to continue... in Matrix online!

Have you noticed that Smith became what he hated the most. He hates humans because he believes them to be like an infection, a disease, a ...virus. Guess who is coming into town 10000000000 Smiths. Ja!
There are human emotions all over the movie... it is inevitable as some would say. And maybe humans are not free, but maybe it is that humans do not want to be free?. Think of it. The Oracle says to Neo that she cares about the future and the only way to get there is TOGETHER.
I do not think machines are evil, they are trying to survive. Maybe at some point AI was so developed that overcame humans in most of their functions (work, home), obviously humans did not make any fun of it... and WAR took place, because AI now tried to defend itself from us. So we were put into the MATRIX, and set into subjects of study, so that machines could learn from us. If they were so evil they could have erradicated all humans from the face of earth by now... i believe it would not be so difficult since the human body is very... and i mean very fragile.
What i believe machines are doing is the next step in evolution and coexistance, which we humans have failed big time...

I again apologize for my English

Oh I read one better theory about the matrix than mine and now I must agree with you about coexistance....

And I must admit you're right! Damn me! I tried to save this movie because I loved everything visualy and the crypted language!

Neo is the program inserted in Zion to get human feelings and upgrade the Matrix so that all human beings will love to live in the Matrix... The oracle tries continuosly to unbalance the equation to upgrade the system so that human race and Machines cohexist they're trying to create abetter equation to make all human race accept the program, and at this time Neo is an important card because he is the first step of an upgrade of Matrix... The architect and the oracle created also Trinity with the purpose to upgrade Neo also with love... she is one card in the hands of them (detective's story one of the detectives say she's the queen of hearts)...
And the purpose of machines is to coexist with human race even if the human race is unaware of the Matrix... Candies and cookies are meant to upgrade the system...

But I think that all the theories still have some holes... and as if this movie has this storyline that is more compatible with mine... This movie is complete CRAP!

"candies and cookies"

and deeper and deeper we go down the rabbit hole.

time to stop digging for meaning and take some things at face value.

it must end somewhere, my friends.

In everyone's mind

There is no answer. If there was what would you do if you found it? Would the movies have been even been worth watching if the answer was given? If you left the movie theatre and every question was answered, what would you think?
"No one can be told what the matrix is. you have to see it for yourself."
"I can only show you the door, you have to walk through it."
"See that, its latin, it means Know thyself"

I think that one thing that is kind of strange that most people that have abad opinion of the film or felt it was a waste of a movie wanted something from the movie that no movie could give them. Does anyone anyone out there have anything to share about the thoughts they had about life after the movie? The questions it may have raised?

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I think that one thing that is kind of strange that most people that have abad opinion of the film or felt it was a waste of a movie wanted something from the movie that no movie could give them. Does anyone anyone out there have anything to share about the thoughts they had about life after the movie? The questions it may have raised?

Man I think you nailed it... maybe you should open a thread to discuss that.
Kudos for you

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I've watched M3 3x's. After watching the movie it happens that everytime I have a better awareness of my luck & joy at being married to a really nice person.

It doesn't last but that's so I can keep having those moments and M3 does it for me.