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Brought this here from another thread.
A quote from Revolutions script;
"(Hammer: mess hall)
Roland: The machines have taken Junction 21. They way I see it, if we drop down from broadcast here, [at RC153], we might surprise them. We go first, hammer as deep as we can, them blow our EMP. Hopefully, we can punch a hole big enough for you to get through."
The online script says "/* Note: Phrases or words in [square brackets] are unconfirmed and may be wrong." so i may be writing all this for nothing lol.  But anyway....
Firstly i think "Junction 21" has meaning. 21 is when we "come of age" it is generally our main Initiation into adulthood and is certainly a main 'junction' in most peoples lives. Now onto this RC153.
RC is well known shorthand amongst esotericists/occultist for "Rosy Cross" from which we get the word Rosicrucian. Their main symbol is a golden cross (which is in the Revolutions isnt it?) and a Rose. There are various stories of who the Rosicrucians are/were but to put it simply they were/are a group of (mainly Christian) Mystics. Read more here
There is the basics of the RC, so what of this 153? Well here is a post i made on a different forum some time ago that i will paste here. There are more links in the film such as the car number plates (see link below about AA) but im feeling tired after my meal so i may add more later.
Hi All,
I have posted this before, but after my last post in the thread regarding
"The Gospel Accounts of the Resurrection" about April Fools, i wanted to see
what reaction it got now.
I will be using stories and myths from other sources to try and make my
point so please excuse me if i take us on a winding path to it. Let me start
with a story told about Pythagoras by Porphry(yet another miracle worker) :
"Meeting with some fishermen who were drawing in their nets heavily laden
with fishes from the deep, he (pythagoras) predicted the exact number of
fish they had caught. The fishermen said that if his estimate was accurate
they would do whatever he recommended. They counted them accurately, and
found the number correct, he then bade them to return the fish alive into
the sea; and what is more wonderful, not one of them died, although they had
been out of the water a considerable time"
The above story would not be taken literally by an initiate into a
Pythagorean Mystery school because they would have recognized it for what it
was. A teaching hidden within an allegory. For now all i want to point out
about the story is that we are not told what the number was that Pythagoras
'guessed'.
Now let me offer you two quotes from the Gospel of Thomas;
"1. And he said, "Whoever discovers the interpretation of these sayings
will not taste death."
This is basically telling us that the stories within the Gospel are meant to
be 'interpretated' in a certain way so that you may 'discover' the true
meaning hidden within the allegories, very much like any other ancient
Mystery school [or very much like the Matrix stories eh?]. Second quote from GThomas;
"8. And he said, "The person is like a wise fisherman who cast his net
into the sea and drew it up from the sea full of little fish. Among them the
wise fisherman discovered a fine large fish. He threw all the little
fish back into the sea, and easily chose the large fish. Anyone here with
two good ears had better listen!"
Yet again we have another fishy story, the saying at the end about having
ears etc is a well known way of alerting people to the fact that there is
more to the story than meets the eye. There is a similarity with the
Pythagorean story in that they throw most of the fish back, apart from
one large fish. I believe that this story contains similar teachings
as the Pythagorean one, as well as others, but before we go into
explanations let us take a look at two more quotes, the first one being from
'The Republic' by Plato;
"As the fame of some blameless king who, like a god, Maintains
justice; to whom the black earth brings forth Wheat and barley, whose trees
are bowed with fruit, And his sheep never fail to bear, and the sea gives
him fish."
I have underlined parts of the above because Jesus was meant to be a King
and blameless and 'like a god', but the part that is appropriate to my
present post is where it says "the sea gives him fish". This now leads us on
to our last quote, which i am sure by now you will know that it is by the
Esotericist John 21:11;
"Simon Peter went up, and drew the net to land full of great fishes, an
hundred and fifty and three: and for all there were so many, yet was not the
net broken."
So, now that we have reached our destination what does it all mean? Let us
take a look. In our final quote from the NT, yet again we have another fishy
story (why so many fish stories i wonder?), what i would like to point out
from this passage is two important things.
1. Unlike the Pythagoras story, this one tells us the number of fish caught.
2. Why would the gospel writer bother telling us the amount of fish they
caught?
I mean, was it a common act for fishermen to sit and count every fish, as in
the Pythagorean allegory? For those who would try to argue that this is an
historical story and they counted the fish because of the 'miracle catch', i
would argue that they may have recognized it as a miracle but they would
still have had no reason to count the fish or bother to record it.
Now, all our stories have at least one thing in common. Fish! What great
astrological age had they just entered at the time? Pisces, the sign of
the.... Fish! What sign did the early Christians use, and it is still used
today, as a symbol of Christ? a Fish! (a big fish perhaps?)
As to my last remark about the symbol of Chist, the actual symbol of the
fish is taken from the Geometrical design called the Vesica Piscis (sign of
the fish).
Lets take a look at it;
This is the Vesica Piscis, the lens type shape in the centre being the main
image. I would like to point out that this design was used for centuries
before Christ as a symbol of the divine, or a gateway to the spiritual
realm. In fact it can be traced as far back as ancient Egypt in certain
Heiroglyphics and especially the design at the Temple of Osiris in Abydos,
Egypt, commonly known as 'The Flower of Life', in which can be found many
vesica piscis' arranged in a pattern.
The two circles in the original image provided represented to pagans(in
sacred geometry) the earthly plane and the spiritual plane. Where the two
meet, it forms the design known as the Vesica Piscis, which represents the union of spirit and matter.
The Pythagoreans were renowned for their Mathamatics and geometry and this
particular symbol was held sacred to them as well as in many other Mystery
schools, this leads me back to our original story about Pythagoras and the
fish.
An initiate of a Pythagorean school would have already known the amount of
fish that the fishermen had caught in the allegory, that number is 153,
exactly the same amount of fish that was supposedly caught in the Jesus
story!
How do we know this? Well, the number 153 was sacred to the Pythagorean
schools because it made up the ratio of 153:265. This ratio is not only the
square root of 3 and the controlling ratio of the equilateral triangle, but
it is the ratio of the width:height of the vesica piscis image which was
called by Archimedes in the 3rd century BCE as the "measure of the fish".
So what we have within the Gospel Story is an allegory about fish which
contains a secret teaching of a sacred symbol commonly called the "measure
of the fish".
The early christians, especially the gnostics, knew all about this ancient
geometry and would have recognised the 'miracle' story for what it was, an
allegory with a hidden meaning. This is the main reason the fish symbol was
used by Christians, because the vesica piscis symbolized the union of spirit and matter.
It can also symbolize male and female joining. Didn't Jesus refer to himself as the "Bridegroom"?
But of course, these were not new ideas.
Lastly let me quote something by the early church father Tertullian;
"But we, the Christians, are little fishes after the type of our
great Fish(ICTHYS) Jesus Christ, born in the water"
I have underlined parts of the above so that those who are interested may
'discover' one of the hidden meanings of the story i quoted from GThomas
earlier.
Just as an interesting note, i will mention that the term ICHTHYS which is
Greek for 'fish' had apparently been used for centuries as the Greek name
for the godman Adonis in the Syrian Mystery schools, although i dont offer
this as evidence because i am still researching it, i would find it very
believable.
Well, this more or less ends my post, i will be very interested in your
comments. Do you still believe this story is a historical account? Or could
it be an allegory of the Mystery Schools? I will leave you with an image
which shows how todays Christian symbol of the fish is taken from the Vesica
Piscis, a symbol that has been used since at least ancient Egyptian times.
Peace
Ka
P.s. Did you know that in France on 1st April, the victim of an April Fools'
Day prank was called a "poisson d'avril," or an "April fish," because at
that time of year, the sun was leaving the zodiacal sign of Pisces?
p.p.s. Dont forget to eat fish next friday
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"Nearly everything you read signed "from God" is just somebody putting their
words in My mouth." - God
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a random link about the R.C. and AA.
This single event gave Crowley the authority that he and Jones had earlier sought. Many individuals do not understand the full implications, however, in One Star in Sight it states that members of the Third Order "are each entitled to found Orders dependent on themselves on the lines of the R. C. and G. D. orders, to cover types of emancipation and illumination not contemplated by the original (or main) system. All such orders must, however, be constituted in harmony with the AA as regards the essential principles."
Second Order properly known as Rosae Rubeae et Auriae Crucis which means 'The Ruby Rose and the Golden Cross.'
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