»True or false? Deny our impulses = Deny what makes us human«

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This poll is based on Mouse's statement in Matrix 1
Mouse: "To deny our own impulses is to deny the very thing that makes us human."

All animals including humans have impulses such as sexual drive. However, do these impulses define who we are as humans? No. The fact that we can deny ourselves what is craved by these impulses is what makes us human.
Dogs go around humping every other dog of opposite gender it can find. Humans, however, though the drive is equally as strong, can choose to deny himself the fulfillment of that desire through the choice to be self-controlled. Self-control being a virtue which other animals lack.

I love all my impulses...I deny some of them because I'm human, and know right from wrong. But Mouse was talking about sexual impulses, we are sexual Beings....THERES NO DENYING THAT...

I have impulses but at times, I have to deny some of them, because of financial challenges (cough.. ahem.. a new ferrari or maserati).

But to deny our impulses would deny the very thing that make us human.
Sexual impulse most definitely must not be denied.
Yeehaww.. ride em cowboy..

knknn, i suggest an amendment or addition to the options -
it is the ability to deny our impulses the very thing that makes us human
it is being able to deny our impulses the very thing that makes us human

or some other syntactical variation of that. but i think it should be definitely added.

btw someone please tell me what knknn means. is it japanese?

i dont know what knnknn means but i think he owns a forum for gamblers too! look!

Why should we resist something that we so obviously enjoy?

Why take away one of the few things in life that gives us pleasure?

Because, unlike the rest of the animal kingdom, we can choose not to be self-centered.

Do we think that we are so civilized and sophisticated that we can ignore our natural instincts? Let's not kid ourselves, humans still have animalistic instinct to survive, kill and breed and it will always be there no matter how much more civilized and sophisticated we get. We just happen to suppress those impulses better than animals.

To deny your sexual instinct means you won't get laid alot. Part of survival and being on top of the food chain, means we must survive and continue to breed.

Just because we don't suppress or deny our sexual impulses, it doesn't make us less human and more animal ... Whoever wants to think they are so civilized and sophisticated that they can suppress their sexual impulses, please feel free to do so. That means there will be more sex to go around for the rest of us

woohoo, digital pimp is in da house bring on the rave scene!

What makes us human is that we can look at this animal nature of ours from outside of it. We can choose to selfishly fulfill our every desire at the expense of others. Or, we can choose to fulfill or deny our desires based on a higher principle.

for the sake of social order and law,some impulses must be controlled...for instance if you say a hot woman walking down the road and you had the impulse to go and fuck her brains out then i think you would be in a bit of trouble if you acted on it...

That is call rape and should not be tolerated.

Yes, but what virtue do you have if your only reason for not raping this woman is your own benefit?

dont rape people. you sicko, what kinda movie rapes people..porno freaks! leave her alone..why dont you guys go back to your moms basement and play magic the gathering its safer..porno freaks!

draw dragons on your walls, and learn all the dialouge to The Clerks.

all you need to be human is a weiner, that was a no brainer...dorks

heroinandrazorblades wrote:

dorks

i prefer the term "geek"

m4jor_p41n wrote:

Just because we don't suppress or deny our sexual impulses, it doesn't make us less human and more animal

m4jor_p41n wrote:

That is call rape and should not be tolerated

Does anyone see the contradiction here?

Stinkz
Those are 2 different scenarios. There are no contradiction.

1. (mutual consent)- In this situation- If you deny your sexual impulses, it just means you won't get laid alot.

2. (non-mutual consent)- In this situation- You need suppress your sexual impulse or else you will be sharing a cell with a guy name Bubba.

Again, Just because we don't suppress or deny our sexual impulses, it doesn't make us less human and more animal ...

It is the ability to differentiate between those 2 scenarios, that make us more human and less animal.

so, your only reason for suppressing your sexual impulse in number 2 is fear of prison? What if there was no law against it, would you do it?

For scenario #2: I would not do it because it is morally wrong, not because I fear going to prison.

Knowing right from wrong is what separate us from the rest of the animal kingdom.

..CORRECT!....

NOW we're getting somewhere. Yay!

So, do you think that it is morally wrong for everyone everywhere no matter which culture they come from? I happen to think so.


See, the whole idea behind a morality is that it is a code, or law that everyone holds themselves accountable to. When you feel guilty about something, you have broken your own law which was written on your heart. Without immediately admitting the mistake, and being fully repentant, one's heart cannot be fully restored. The conscience becomes corrupt. One can no longer make distinctions and see right from wrong as clearly.

Our natural inclination is not repentance. Our natural inclination is to make excuses and rationalize our behavior. These rationalizations, which we so often mistake for Reason, blind us to the truth. This is why you see mass murderers and criminals who can keep a straight face in the midst of the most terrible of deeds. They no longer can even see that their actions are wrong!

Stinkz, I'm very tired, but i've just read your post.

You will be happy to know that I understand FULLY what you are saying. I think this is probably a first... I absolutely agree

so do major and another smith agree that it is the ability to deny our impulses which makes us human? sure, there are instances when it should be exercised and when it need not be(though i disagree with the mutual consent thing - social conventions also should be considered) it still stands that it is the ability which distinguishes us from animals.