»The 4 theories.«

Through my scowering and collecting of theories. I came to a conclusion that there are 4 theories floating about on the forum to explain the sentinel scene at the end of m2. so i decided to sum them up in this very biased post that actually helps destroy the mwam thoery.

1 - wireless transmission: neo can acess the code of the sentinels wirelessly and deactivate them or self destrut them. after his encounter with smith he somehow gained smith's sentinel control code. OR . when smith took over bane.. to balance the equation neo had to be able to take over the sentinels.. :: this is possible but not very neat.. quite a messy theory.

2 - The anomoly's protection: the sentinels were commanded by the machine amainframe to self destruct as the one must be preserved as he is essential to the system. neo just somehow knew they were not going to destroy him anyway "something's different ".

3 -remote acess:. as is said in ETM and in the M3 trailer. neo is in a place between the REAL (yup it is real ) world and the matrix. so the part of him that is still in the matrix could have acessed their code and shut them off. he wasnt aware he had been "split" but he knew "somthing's different". and it was a large strain to make a connection between the part of him in the matrix and the part of him in the real world. hence the coma.

4 - MWAM/MiM- as we all know. easy, simple and unfeasable ( for storyline purposes ).


there you go. 3 theories OTHER than the mwam one, . i'm sure there's many others. but with 3 very good theories other than the mwam one. it seems that another matrix isn't just stupid but not needed.

yea that mostly sums up what i have read also. I don't really think i believe 2. he says he feels them. If he's not somehow connected to them and entirely in the real world he wouldn't feel them.

I think i like 3 the most, but my real hope is that it's none of these and the brothers amaze us once again

What about

5) Telekinesis?

ie. Nothing to do with "Codes" or "Programs" or "Remote control", but good old fashioned Mind-Zap.

I'm not saying this is it, or is in fact credible, just that it's not listed.

Is the reason for Neo's powers going to be explained with facts?

They didn't explain the "humans as batteries" story with technical facts other than mentioning the BTUs and reproduction cycle of humans. As this reason is impossible from what we know today (I think there is a link in the links thread to prove it), it was just concluded by Morpheus to be about "Control", and nobody mentioned it again.

The reason for Neo's powers may just be explained with "willpower" or "He is the one!".

I guess I'm just saying: don't get your hopes up for a good technical reason...

I think it could be the theme of Matrix Revolutions that Neo discovers that all Zionites are gods and the matrix is a possible way to keep them helpless and clueless.

The world the gods created (before being beaten by the machines) was highly advanced and beautiful, and now the machines want to enprison them with the help of the matrix by simulating "standard civilization with a meat body society".

Even after escaping from the matrix the concept "you are just a body" is omnipresent:
*Sleeping animals in cocoons
*Plugs as a sign of slavery
*you have only power when your brain is connected to a computer system
*...


EMP, so good to have you back!

Balphaus wrote:

Through my scowering and collecting of theories. I came to a conclusion that there are 4 theories floating about on the forum to explain the sentinel scene at the end of m2. so i decided to sum them up in this very biased post that actually helps destroy the mwam thoery.

Ahem. You can't be serious. Did you read my site or just the forum?

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wireless transmission

= Zion is real

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The anomoly's protection

= Zion is real

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remote acess:. as is said in ETM and in the M3 trailer. neo is in a place between the REAL (yup it is real ) world and the matrix

Nobody uses the words "real worlds". Sorry.

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there you go. 3 theories OTHER than the mwam one

No 2 other theories.

Balphaus wrote:

2 - The anomoly's protection: the sentinels were commanded by the machine amainframe to self destruct as the one must be preserved as he is essential to the system. neo just somehow knew they were not going to destroy him anyway "something's different ".

I more or less said the same thing just now in another forum:

The sentinels may have also been controlled remotely by programs that both monitor the Matrix, and their progress in destroying humans. These programs see that it's Neo they face, and "self-destruct" the sentinels in an effort to fool Neo (for some reason yet explained) into thinking he has extra powers. Thus Neo didn't stop the sentinels as he thinks!

But as i pointed out, the real anomaly is not that Neo appeared to have stoped the sentinels, but in that he said that he could feel them!

Theory #2 is just illogical... watch the movie and see if you can honestly say that you think that theory is even possible ("Something's different, I can feel them," *raises hand*... some coincidence).

I also want to point out that the sentinal scene is NOT the only evidence for MWAM. I still don't understand why everyone seems to think that... the reason I think it is a MWAM is because of how much the machines know about Zion - they have COMPLETE control over it. How would they know that an insane person isn't born within Zion and just decides to kill Neo (doesn't even need to be this big, small changes are enough). The rusty bolt for example, that gets Sauron's crew killed - the two ships sent out to Morpheus... there is more. So the only real thing I have against MWAM is that it is "lame" (which is, honestly a strong argument).

You guys left out the SYSTEM THEORY. Though it resembles a matrix-within-a-matrix theory, it is something new and different.

well i actually chose the 4 theories that I thought were the 4 main feasable theories.. on the forums i've heard many many more but I just didn't think they fitted with the storyline or I just didn't like them .

and I could have sworn that "oracle 2" said "between the real world and the machine world" .. i'll have to check again.

AND also. whilst watching M1 again last night I realised that myself and others give the matrix too much credit for technological explainations, for instance. neo is brought back from the DEAD by the apparent power of love . ( in conjunction with him being "the one" )

I'm surprised that the "sentinel scene" has recieved more attention than eo being revived.

anyhoo, i still stand by my belief that is wrong, mainly becaus the machines wouldn't exist either they'd be a part of the second matrix, unless aliens came down and enslaved both battling factions in a matrix of their own

btw, i did read the site before signing up .. but that was a while ago.. and the forum's too big to read everything , i'm still only human.

I'll go check the site again, it probabaly sums things up easier anyhoo

knnknn wrote:

I think it could be the theme of Matrix Revolutions that Neo discovers that all Zionites are gods and the matrix is a possible way to keep them helpless and clueless. The world the gods created (before being beaten by the machines) was highly advanced and beautiful, and now the machines want to enprison them with the help of the matrix by simulating "standard civilization with a meat body society".

Watch the Animatrix.