»Beyond the Architect«

I’m not a religious man, but I have come across some ideas that deal with that. The architect being the creator of the matrix, is there someone behind him? I look at the Architect as satin. He makes the matrix to trap all of the soles in the world. But when there is an evil force like satin there must be a positive or good force. This positive force would be what is beyond the architect. I believe in the third movie we will see that. Neo will go even deeper than the core and meet who really sent him into the matrix. I believe also that this person or good force( god) that picked neo will look exactly like neo. Sort of like a Jesus type deal, with neo leading his people. Those are my thoughts, mostly rambling on statements I guess

that dastardly satin trapping our soles!
it is a good thing we have nylon to save us from satin

((Sorry, I had to delete that poll. You shouldn't have any rights to create polls. I accidently allowed that.))

greens4245 wrote:

I’m not a religious man...But when there is an evil force like satin there must be a positive or good force.

So you are not religious?

greens4245 wrote:

The architect being the creator of the matrix, is there someone behind him?

Of course, he is just a program. Thus the poll (Is there any force behind the Architect: YES/NO) was not necessary anyway.

greens4245 wrote:

I look at the Architect as satin.

Why? Because he is dressed white?

greens4245 wrote:

He makes the matrix to trap all of the soles

No proof for that so far.

greens4245 wrote:

But when there is an evil force like satin there must be a positive or good force.

Pure speculation thus your "must" is wrong.

greens4245 wrote:

This positive force would be what is beyond the architect.

Again a wrong statement. Maybe the Architect is beyond this force.

greens4245 wrote:

good force( god)

No, the Architect is god. The good force is the devil. Why are you stating pure speculation as facts? You seem to be indoctrinated by some kind of religions from your neighbourhood.

greens4245 wrote:

Those are my thoughts, mostly rambling on statements I guess

OK, I take everything back I said and claim the opposite.

I don't see the architecht as that special at all . he is just anothe programme carrying out his purpose.. just like an agent.. the system created agents to police the matrix, it created the architecht to create new matrices and to update them, it created the keymaker to.. make keys :S..

anyway.. my point is he's not a god, or an evil entity. he's just a programme doing a job.. ( thusly I think knnknn should change his pic to the "spikey machine god" becasue it has much more of a higher authority than the architect.. it's probably the achitecht's boss )

The Achitect is evil, oh yes. This CAN be proved simply by observing the way that he/it tries to force Neo into making the choice to let Trinity die. He does this by stating that if Neo saves Trinity he will be condemning all of humanity. This is just not so. Neo would not be the one to kill the whole of humanity, machines would be. I just felt I should help Green out a little before I got to my own point.

I wouldn't say that the Architect is GOD or Satin, there is unquestionably a greater good or evil than him/it out there. The Architect fills a role, a job in the Matrix world. Perhaps the Architect can be seen to exist at a godly level in that relm.

I foresee a switching of roles in the third movie. Perhaps a new Architect. One of... kinder... human qualities that can see value in human emotion.

I leave with these final words though. Neo will not be the new Architect. He will die. Just look at how messed up he is in the trailers. Blind! Blind I tell you! Maybe Kid Matrix will become the new...

I BELIEVE SOME THING RESPECTING TO WHAT THE ARCHITECT SAID TO NEO, I BELIEVE THAT FOR SURE ONE THING HE SAID WAS A LIE:
I don't know for sure if some thing the Architect said were true aor some were false, but I know for sure that the CATALISMIC CRUSH TO THE MATRIX that was supposed to happen if Neo went to the left door, I know FOR SURE it is FALSE, not because it is insane and not productive for the machines, but because of some details in the ANIMATRIX. In BEYOND, at the end of the episode, you can see the trace call, or whatever those numbers are, just like in the matrix 1 at the beginning and end of the movie....those numbers are the date of the time in that episode, those were if I'm not wrong....2-2-03, thus in year 2003 the matrix is still alive and going, and it is quite obvious that matrix 2 takes place before that( year 2000 aprox. if I'm not wrong).
PiukNeo.