»Significance of Deja Vu«

Hi,

I am new to this website and as such I do not know if what I am about to say has been discussed before.

Firstly a little about me. I am the author of the book What Happens When You Die. This book is an attempt at a scientific answer to the ultimate question, do we survive death? What is particularly relevant to this forum is that my book presents the argument that most of us are existing in an inwardly generated simulation taking place in the final second before we die. This simulation is created by the re-generation of our original life memories using a process similar to holography. Most of us are re-living our life again but some are living this life for the first time. How can you tell if you are a 'first lifer' or or not? Simple. If you have ever experienced the phenomenon known as deja vu then you are within the simulation. If you do not experience deja vu then this is your first time. Just has Neo has the deja vu with the cat so it is in the 'real' world.

In my book I explain the 'hard' science behind this theory and believe me, it does stand up to scrutiny.

If anybody is interested in this idea by all means post a response and/or take a look at my website (www.anthonypeake.com) where can be found a downloadable pdf file outlining the theory - a theory I call
Cheating The ferryman

I Look forward to hearing from those of you intrigued by this post.

In the Roots of the Matrix DVD one philosopher (I think), says that kids nowadays play Sims or other games that simulate entire worlds.

Now let's go to the future... the technology has advanced and computers are so powerfull that can simulate entire worlds/galaxies/universe with billions and billions of stars and planets that some of them are populated by digital characters. Let's say that every kid has that game in his own pc, every kid controls the digital lifes of infinite digital people of infinite worlds..

What are the odds that we are not simulated people and we are real? Most likely we are simulated and there's little possibility that we are real.



EDIT

If you are right, I'm definetely not a first lifer. I have de javu's all the time.

Link to your pdf: anthonypeake.co.uk...

Tony The Ferryman wrote:

Hi, I am new to this website and as such I do not know if what I am about to say has been discussed before. Firstly a little about me. I am the author of the book What Happens When You Die. This book is an attempt at a scientific answer to the ultimate question, do we survive death? What is particularly relevant to this forum is that my book presents the argument that most of us are existing in an inwardly generated simulation taking place in the final second before we die. This simulation is created by the re-generation of our original life memories using a process similar to holography. Most of us are re-living our life again but some are living this life for the first time. How can you tell if you are a 'first lifer' or or not? Simple. If you have ever experienced the phenomenon known as deja vu then you are within the simulation. If you do not experience deja vu then this is your first time. Just has Neo has the deja vu with the cat so it is in the 'real' world. In my book I explain the 'hard' science behind this theory and believe me, it does stand up to scrutiny. If anybody is interested in this idea by all means post a response and/or take a look at my website (www.anthonypeake.com) where can be found a downloadable pdf file outlining the theory - a theory I call Cheating The ferryman I Look forward to hearing from those of you intrigued by this post.

interesting explanation for Deja Vu, definitely strains the brains. I've never thought of Deja Vu like that before, but now I'm unnerved a little because I get Deju Vu almost every day.

i too have deja vu very often...how ever the first time is in a dream, almost like i see the future, do u have any explaination...it troubles me and i'm curious why i have it...

en.wikipedia.org...

thanks for the link...but it's not similar, it's everything...in the scene they are wearing the same clothing, saying the EXACT same things as they said before...that's too coincidental to me...

Tsukasa wrote:

i too have deja vu very often...how ever the first time is in a dream, almost like i see the future, do u have any explaination...it troubles me and i'm curious why i have it...

Many people do, there are many theories as to dejavu, maybe its past life things, maybe its a look into the future, maybe its awareness

i've done some research since that last post of mine....my condition is refered to as déjà rêvé, or "already dreamed." however, why am i aware...i mean they have no signifagance to my life...it's just a random moment...of my life...that i dream ahead of time...anyone have any info for me...i turn here when i need help...

Our brain records everyday stuff and our brain starts to see recurring or repeating patterns in life.
When our brain sees it again we encounter Deja Vu

My Deja Vu was when I was watching "Blade Trinity" then I said Wait a minute I have seen this before.
A black guy in chains then the hero comes to save him

i'm glad all you guys are still around...i missed this place...

now, about my deja reve...u see, that's what freaks me out...the dreams and event are soooo exact, so picture perfect...i know it can't be a coinsidence...

were have I seen this before?
Spiderman 3

i get what ur saying da vinci

it's just...it's exact...i mean word for word...person for person...event for event...it's too perfect to be a figment of my mind u know?

Firstly what happens to Neo in the matrix is not a deja vu.
That is why it is called a glictch in the matrix. A deja vu is when something happens and you have a memory of it having happend before. Where as in Neos case this somethings that repeats strait away. If something like like happended to you would you call it a deja vu. I guess not when the moment is so fresh in your mind.

what happened in the matrix was ,as trinity suggested, was a glitch in the matrix, as we saw it, a black cat, then another one just like it, what neo did see at that moment, is what matters, maybe he saw the first cat, then after the glitch, maybe the matrix erased that moment, maybe they made it look like it happened along time ago, because i don't think the matrix will let something like that happens; people will know that there something wrong, and by the way if what neo saw was what we saw, i think he would freak out, not be cool and say "nothing, i just had a little déjà vu"! that's what i think, and although things may get crazy around you, you would'nt just stay calm when you see something like that!
And another think regarding the déjà vu, i think that the mind is so powerful so smart, but we don't know that, we don't know its true abilities.
one thing we can be sure about, is that this thing has an explanation, we may not know it now, but we may later, what i think is that the mind calculates every aspect of every choice we make, a scenario if you will, based on what we may choose, from simple to complicated choices, the mind makes suggestions regarding the consequences of what we choose, if it is random, or a vision of the future, like some people would suggest, we could see other people's future, the way neo saw trinity falling, the oracle didn't consider it as a déjà vu, she said "you are looking at the world without time", you are looking, she's talking about the eye of the mind, what the mind can see if we choose this, or that, if you at this moment decide to go drink water you may spot something, hear someone, if you call you friend right now, you may say something that poped into your head, something you would'nt say if you call him 10 minutes from now, and things like that...
i hope i made my point clear, i'm not good in expressing my thoughts...

Juseus knew that he was going to be betrayed by judas.

When Smith hacked over the Oracle, he made the same mistake that Neo did when he hacked into Smith.

In other words, Smith couldn't see beyond his purpose of complete and utter destruction, and he didn't realize that he would end up connected to the Source at the end of the movie.

Neo couldn't see beyond his purpose of love for Trinity, which is why she had to die before Neo could die for humanity's sake.

Neo didn't know that he had to die until his last moments when the Oracle spoke through Smith, "Everything that has a beginning has an end".

It was at this moment that he realized that he had nothing to live for, Trinity was all that mattered to him, and now that she was gone he accepted his fate of being the sacrificial connection that was used to delete Smith via an electric storm.

i have this thing...called Deja Reve...where i recall dreams during an event...but it's so exact it's scary...i mean the same shirts on people...same faces...even same conversation...word for word...and it's because it so exact it freaks me out a little bit...but the events i recall seem...meaningless...u know?

that's exactly my point, sometimes i think that the mind looks forword trying to understand the influence of any choice, it's like you wanna tell your friend that his father died, you build up some imaginary scenarios of what he may say, and when you do tell him, usually at least one scenario comes true, i think that's what the mind does,or i think that what happens on the unconsciousness level of our mind, and sometime we get some flying images of these on the consciousness level, that's why it really really feels weird when we do, well for me, i feel like i am looking at comic book, and i see these images of what is happening right now, and i know that on the right and the left i can see some more images, but i get distracted and i get out of the moment, and this is what i think about the whole thing...
but that's me...

I think, when we "dream", the body is so relaxed and separated from the normality of reality that it takes away the one thing that we have when we are awake - choice.

Do you ever feel like you can't kill somebody in a dream, no matter how many times you stab the enemy?

Do you ever fall off a cliff only to wake up right before you hit the ground?

Just like the Oracle says in the Matrix, you can't see past the choices you don't understand.

Do any of us really understand death?

No. All we can do is believe in what happens after our disconnection (or change, if you will) from our current reality.

Neo was a depressed computer addict, probably on the verge of suicide, and this is why he was such an easy target as being perceived as 'The One'. He had the skills to understand the coding behind the Matrix, but he was also in such desperate need of love (EVERYTHING needs love) that Trinity was the perfect variable to throw in the equation to make him choose the door on the left. It's why the Oracle "believed" that humanity would still exist at the end of the movie due to the fact that the word 'love' implies such a strong connection that it often surprises the programs in the Matrix who can only see cause-and-effect between beginning and end.

Perhaps the reason that Sati and Neo met in the train station (along with her mother and father) was so Neo could understand that he was hanging by a string - that string being Trinity's love for him. After all, how would he have escaped Limbo if Trinity wouldn't have sacrificed her life in Club Hel because of her love (insanity as programs perceive it) for Neo.

Sorry I kinda went off-topic, but I do that sometimes.

i dunno...part of me thinks dreams aren't meant to be understood...

Just as we see previews of movies at the movie theatre, what if DREAMS are merely a PREVIEW of what will come in our afterlife?

it's not a preview to the underlife because i see them in this life...

just a stupid idea that i used to think about since i was a kid, can this be a dream, and when we go to sleep, we actually wake up and live in reality,
like everytime we think that this is reality and the other side of the day is a dream....

now that...ak...sounds like a matrixist thought to me...

AK wrote:

just a stupid idea that i used to think about since i was a kid, can this be a dream, and when we go to sleep, we actually wake up and live in reality, like everytime we think that this is reality and the other side of the day is a dream....

That's really strange. Not what you thought, but that there's a book where the main character experiences that, nearly word for word like you said. It's called Black, by Ted Dekker. Whenever the main character sleeps, he wakes in another world. This is one world, and there's a virus racing to exterminate all life, and in the other world it's like it's thousands of years into the future; they have records of the virus happening already. When he is in one world he thinks the other is a dream because it's so real to him. You should check it out. It won't answer your question about "is this real or is my dream real" but it's a very good read.