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Although I LOVE m1, m2 and surely will love M3, this "Source" concept is the worst thing in the whole trilogy.

One of the most amazing things in the trilogy is the fact that everything is higly coherent with real stuff. For example, Trinity uses sshnuke and nmap to hack the powerplant (not those l4m3 "h4ck4rs" t00z with eye-candy for windoze) neo was using enlightenment or windowmake, supposely upon a AIX or GNU/Linux, the whole hacking thing is pretty serioes, considering that serioes hacking existin on UNIX world. And there are also the sniffing tools, the port scanners, the tapped lines, the black boxes, and so many other realistic hacking stuff..

but the term "SOURCE" is pretty pretty pretty bad and lame. There is no sense on it, thing the source in computing stuff is just a text with the code before executation/compilation. It would like to hear something more coherent like

1) Replace the word "SOURCE" with "KERNEL"
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"... a program has to choose between exiles here, or return to the KERNEL"

that would make more sense, because a program (process) hold in the kernel has no funcionality, has no scheduling priority, is probably in defunct state and surely is not linked to any other process, pipe, sock, whatever, making it inactive, but not deleted.

2) Replace the word "RETURN to the source" by "DISASSEMBLED to the source".

That would be perfect, because will show a exactly meaning of a priogram being terminanted, inactivated, but without being deleted. The "source" would be there for re-examination, improvements , recompilation, and posterior re-execution. That would make MUCH more sense.

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you have to realize that the "source" is from the machines perspective. and they dont need to compile, they write machine code directly. The source of the matrix is all machine code!

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This is a term from "Windows 2199" and will be used long after Bill Gates has died.

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knnknn wrote:

This is a term from "Windows 2199" and will be used long after Bill Gates has died.


come on, we're talking seriouns computing stuff here Wink

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Nowadays there is nothing comparable with "Source". A central Megacomputer where everything leads to. Thus the term is OK for me.

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knnknn wrote:

Nowadays there is nothing comparable with "Source". A central Megacomputer where everything leads to. Thus the term is OK for me.


maybe you are right. THe point is that is pretty difficult to me, and as for many programmers, to look the the "Source" word and not link that to "source code".. Anyway, "Source" is not a good title for a supermega computer, IMHO.

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Remember this from the scene with Neo and The Oracle:

The Oracle: Maybe it breaks down. Maybe a better program is created to replace it - happens all the time, and when it does, a program can either choose to hide here, or return to The Source.

Neo: The machine mainframe?

The Oracle: Yes. Where you must go. Where the path of The One ends. You've seen it, in your dreams, haven't you? The door made of light?


The Source is the mainframe. Maybe they called it "The Source" to give it a divine o mystic meaning. But that's only my guess.

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you have to be pretty lonely to worry about semantics.

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Anonymous wrote:

you have to be pretty lonely to worry about semantics.

What the...? Who throws this objection at valuable posters in a valuable topic? Oh, a "guest". OK. Wants to stay in the background....

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I had no idea what that kernel and source stuff meant, and i bet alot of normal people dont either... if you the movies had all that stuff in them people would have no idea wuts going on. People atleast understand the word source, but what is a kernel? The directors realyl dotn wanna throw off the audience, this movie is meant for all not just elite hackers

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Go to this link and find out for yourself~ I think you'll find that most of us on this site has done MUCH research into The Matrix by doing exactly this...LOTS OF RESEARCH Cool

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I had no idea what that kernel and source stuff meant, and i bet alot of normal people dont either... if you the movies had all that stuff in them people would have no idea wuts going on. People atleast understand the word source, but what is a kernel? The directors realyl dotn wanna throw off the audience, this movie is meant for all not just elite hackers


Oh really ? How come they are so worried to use a state-of-art hacker tool like ssh and nmap ?

The brothers made a huge research to make hacking stuff in the movie pretty realistic. Now I agree that "The Source" is just a title for a mega computer, but I still think this is a wak point, since in hacking world, "source" has a very strong meaning, which leads to misunderstand the term.

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