»Plug it in, plug it in?«

Exactly.

Theory 1

"You touched the Source, but you weren't ready"

To begin with, she does not immediately say: "you touched the Source, so you should be dead"

He wasn't ready? Ready for what? The overwhelming power that is the Source. He was surprised by his own deed (which was connecting to the Source and shutting down the Sentinels with the power of his will).

So, he did his deed, but he was overwhelmed by it, coming into some sort of shock. As a result he did not pull back his mind from the Source but was overflowed/overwhelmed by it.

Then the Sentinels went dead, loosing their connection to the Source in the process. Neo did not straighten his mind yet, so what happened was about the same what would happen when someone inside the Matrix suddenly gets his plug removed....and hey...that gets us to the part of: "you should be dead..."

And offcourse Neo didn't die by this, because...

A) He is the One
B) His strong will for the love attachment


Theory 2

Neo connected himself to the Source, which tried to assimilate him. By the power of his will, Neo managed to escape to Mobil Ave.


Both theories are plausible, but alot of questions are still pending, especially with theory 2, let me elaborate on them...

1) Did he still need his physical brain to have his conscious experience in Mobil Ave or did the Source assimilate everything from his brain, including his entire lifetime memory and turn him into a full AI-program?

I think the latter doesn't make sense at all, because...

A) If the Source would want to delete him, then why the hell would they make a stand-alone program out of him in the first place?

B) The RSI is a 'replacement' for the five senses of the physical body that normally feed the brain with information. This information comes from the simulation in which they participate in. Throughout the trilogy we are being told that the RSI and the physical brain cannot be seperated in any way, they operate as one.

This proofs for me that Neo needed his physical brain in order to be a conscious entity inside Mobil Ave, unless he or the Source did some magic alterations and converted him into a stand-alone AI program. Even if this is so, then the Source must have done this, because Neo doesn't even know how he got into Mobil Ave in the first place (like he says to Rama Kandra).

But Rama-Kandra says that perhaps Neo is there for the same reason as he is: a love connection! This might imply that it was Neo's will to 'escape' from the Source into the save 'island' that Mobil Ave is.

So this is confusing stuff. On the one hand Neo doesn't know how he got there and on the other hand it is suspected that he is there because of his strong will. This might indicate that this will is expressed through his subconscious part of his mind, which I described earlier.


2) If Neo can connect wireless from anywhere (like some of you think) then why did he went unconscious in the first place? Both his physical body and his RSI went unconscious.

In the original draft of M3 it is described that Neo wakes up in Mobil Ave with a tremendous headache. This is proof to me that his first connection with the Source was too overwhelming for him.

So for me theory 1 comes the closest...summarising:

-Neo connects to the Source for the first time
-The Source's power is overwhelming for him causing some sort of shock
-The Sentinels loose their connection to the Source
-Neo straightened (disconnected) his mind too late, leaving it at the Source
-By his (subconscious) will Neo wants to return, so he flows to the first possible exit: Mobil Ave station
-Inside the Hammer, again with his subconscious will, he re-establishes the connection between his RSI and his phycial brain, giving us two visual clues about this: Maggie spotting certain patterns on him and his RSI waking up

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

Theory 1 "You touched the Source, but you weren't ready" To begin with, she does not immediately say: "you touched the Source, so you should be dead" He wasn't ready? Ready for what? The overwhelming power that is the Source. He was surprised by his own deed (which was connecting to the Source and shutting down the Sentinels with the power of his will). So, he did his deed, but he was overwhelmed by it, coming into some sort of shock. As a result he did not pull back his mind from the Source but was overflowed/overwhelmed by it. Then the Sentinels went dead, loosing their connection to the Source in the process. Neo did not straighten his mind yet, so what happened was about the same what would happen when someone inside the Matrix suddenly gets his plug removed....and hey...that gets us to the part of: "you should be dead..."

It'll be a bit different, I think, because when someone's plug is removed they loose the connection of mind and body. If Neo's connection was indeed a wireless one, then the body and mind would still be connected even if he wasn't w/ the source.

MANeo wrote:

And offcourse Neo didn't die by this, because... A) He is the One B) His strong will for the love attachment Theory 2 Neo connected himself to the Source, which tried to assimilate him. By the power of his will, Neo managed to escape to Mobil Ave.

Once programs are created, they have a purpose. When that purpose is fulfilled then the program is deleted. At this time Neo had fullfilled his purpose as the one (i.e. to reach the Architect and rebuild Zion), but he denied that purpose and by protocol the Source should delete him.

This is why I think when he connected to the Source through the sentinels, it tried to delete him. And unconciously fought to deny that death/deletion. If his RSI/AI was deleted, then his mind/body connection WOULD be severed and he would die. But he chose otherwise which is what dropped him in Mobil.

This theory is somewhat meshed w/ your first one. But I think logically makes a bit more sense.

m_ave_neo_who_needs_to_write_a_new_installment_of_his_kickass_fanfic wrote:

Both theories are plausible, but alot of questions are still pending, especially with theory 2, let me elaborate on them... 1) Did he still need his physical brain to have his conscious experience in Mobil Ave or did the Source assimilate everything from his brain, including his entire lifetime memory and turn him into a full AI-program?

Again his brain (along w/ other pod born) is wired w/ machine technology anyway. Neo's is heightened because he's the One. The Source DIDN'T assimilate him or delete him, thats why he was spit out to Mobil.

MobilANeo wrote:

I think the latter doesn't make sense at all, because... A) If the Source would want to delete him, then why the hell would they make a stand-alone program out of him in the first place?

They didn't.

MobilANeo wrote:

B) The RSI is a 'replacement' for the five senses of the physical body that normally feed the brain with information. This information comes from the simulation in which they participate in. Throughout the trilogy we are being told that the RSI and the physical brain cannot be seperated in any way, they operate as one.

They weren't separated. They were still connected, if we stick to the 'wireless connection' theory.

MobilANeo wrote:

This proofs for me that Neo needed his physical brain in order to be a conscious entity inside Mobil Ave, unless he or the Source did some magic alterations and converted him into a stand-alone AI program. Even if this is so, then the Source must have done this, because Neo doesn't even know how he got into Mobil Ave in the first place (like he says to Rama Kandra).

Neo didn't have to. See above.

MobilANeo wrote:

But Rama-Kandra says that perhaps Neo is there for the same reason as he is: a love connection! This might imply that it was Neo's will to 'escape' from the Source into the save 'island' that Mobil Ave is. So this is confusing stuff. On the one hand Neo doesn't know how he got there and on the other hand it is suspected that he is there because of his strong will. This might indicate that this will is expressed through his subconscious part of his mind, which I described earlier. 2) If Neo can connect wireless from anywhere (like some of you think) then why did he went unconscious in the first place? Both his physical body and his RSI went unconscious.[

He went unconcious because his mind was separated from his body. Just like one would be if they were jacked in. They reference this in M3.

MobilANeo wrote:

In the original draft of M3 it is described that Neo wakes up in Mobil Ave with a tremendous headache. This is proof to me that his first connection with the Source was too overwhelming for him. So for me theory 1 comes the closest...summarising: -Neo connects to the Source for the first time -The Source's power is overwhelming for him causing some sort of shock -The Sentinels loose their connection to the Source -Neo straightened (disconnected) his mind too late, leaving it at the Source -By his (subconscious) will Neo wants to return, so he flows to the first possible exit: Mobil Ave station -Inside the Hammer, again with his subconscious will, he re-establishes the connection between his RSI and his phycial brain, giving us two visual clues about this: Maggie spotting certain patterns on him and his RSI waking up

I guess here would be my summary:
-Neo connects to the Source for the first time
-He manipulated the Source's link to the sentinels and powers them down
-Neo's AI is connected to the Source, the Source tries to delete his as a rogue program.
-By his (subconscious) will Neo wants to return, so he flows to the first possible exit: Mobil Ave station
-Once the crew gets the codes for Mobil Ave (which would be firewalled and encripted) Neo is able to escape that little purgatory.
-Inside the Hammer, he is able to again with his subconscious will, re-established the connection between his RSI and his phycial brain.

(I mean it about the new installment)

All is well and I keep repeating that all theories in here are plausible, but what about this:

if the Source would want to delete Neo, then why didn't the Source try that over and over again when Neo had to connect to the Source in order to trigger the bombs and stop the Sentinels that attacked the Logos?

And why didn't Deus Ex Machina, which is the hardware shell of the Source, squash him immediately if It's only desire was to delete him?

So I don't believe in this theory. I still believe that Neo was too overwhelmed when he connected himself to the Source for the first time ever --> he wasn't mentally ready yet like the Oracle said.

MobilANeo wrote:

This proofs for me that Neo needed his physical brain in order to be a conscious entity inside Mobil Ave, unless he or the Source did some magic alterations and converted him into a stand-alone AI program. Even if this is so, then the Source must have done this, because Neo doesn't even know how he got into Mobil Ave in the first place (like he says to Rama Kandra).

Wow, missed this originally. The text in red above is very much what I think is happening to Neo over the course of the films. That is why it is a partial dissemination of the code he carries and not Neo himself that is required. Neo remains irrevocably human and a cyborg, however, there is a code version of him coming into existence.