»Would you really want to know?«

If you could know what the Trilogy is about without the sometimes confusing subtext, would you really want to know?

I mean, we have such a great time with our theories. A year or so ago, I decided to just go along because when I told posters what the movies were about. Most posters really didn't care. So, we never got around to the nitty-gritty. But, most posters went ape-shit for wild theories.

Because I know this already, I thought if I told the board the main theme, everyone could come up with theories based on that theme. Or, I could just shut up and let things be. BTW, I'm not doing anything ginormously fabtabulous, a couple posters are pretty damn close.

Sorry, I'm not going to explain the whole trilogy...been down that road too many times.

Let's see if we can get a poll up and give it an auspicious deadline. If you want me to explain it or not, I'll leave it up to you. And, no, I'm not offering you the redpill.

At least, not yet, muahahahah....cough...cough...hahahaaaaa.

BTW, angry/givingmefinger/blackeye/devilmad/lol/screwy/shakingheadno/indifferent/toothy/nerd-geek/shooting emoticons will be counted as a nay.

There was a person one month ago {I'm not saying his screen name} that was saying "lol, you are all noobs I know, what is really happening there, but do you want me to tell you?"

If you know something, share it with us. Asking us if we want to hear it is stupid! Personally I like to hear everyone's opinion.

PS That person never posted again.

th3 p4th wrote:

Asking us if we want to hear it is stupid!

You're judging me already, and I haven't said anything yet. Now, do you see why I'm asking? This is the chit-chat section and that's what I'm doing.

The matrix is actually the simpliest version of this model of story. The fan is often enthralled because they believe this hasn't been told before. But, it has in a slightly different, yet obvious way. Not only that, there are several obvious connections between Sophia S., Wilber, and V for Vendetta, how the movies are tied together (on a textual level), that no one to this date has picked up on.

BTW, there are fans who do get upset for whatever reason when you other fans go through "theory exploration"...those people may call you noobs and refuse to post again.

But, consider this...before I even started, you called my idea stupid and assumed that I would give you MY opinion, i.e. MY theory. If we follow this line of thinking, you don't believe there are definitive answers...and perhaps, don't want to hear it if there is. (To take this further, you essentially told me not post ever again). And, that's why I posted this.

Do you really want to know?

So, to answer the question with a question? Do you know what happens when someone answers a long awaited question? Satisfaction and disillusionment, and delusion. People who once agreed begin to take sides. Others just leave.

Remember, this is just chit-chat for now.

LOL what I mean is: share with us everything even if it's the most stupid (matrixy) thing in the world! There is no need to ask if we want, we ALL want to hear whatever you have to say!

At least that's what I think.

And I'm higly interested on this:

Gina Rink wrote:

Not only that, there are several obvious connections between Sophia S., Wilber, and V for Vendetta, how the movies are tied together (on a textual level), that no one to this date has picked up on.

That would be the divine feminine, she rules the roost.

Wilber and sophia?

Will (determination, light, truth) Bear (to carry).

Sophia (Wisdom)

Excaliber is brought forth from the lady of the lake, just like the sun rises out of the seas. Thats why the King is called Arther.

Art Her.

When a womans waters breaks, what comes out of the water?

A child, the light of the world, the seed, Our future.

Earth, the lower physical plane, the heavens, the upper spiritual plane.

In the heavens, you can shape shift, teleport and fly.

However, in the heavens, nobody says a word.

Communication and movement is achieved through the power of Ones minds.

This are the facts behind the myths of martial arts.

Reconnect wrote:

That would be the divine feminine, she rules the roost. Wilber and sophia? Will (determination, light, truth) Bear (to carry). Sophia (Wisdom) Excaliber is brought forth from the lady of the lake, just like the sun rises out of the seas. Thats why the King is called Arther. Art Her. When a womans waters breaks, what comes out of the water? A child, the light of the world, the seed, Our future. Earth, the lower physical plane, the heavens, the upper spiritual plane. In the heavens, you can shape shift, teleport and fly. However, in the heavens, nobody says a word. Communication and movement is achieved through the power of Ones minds. This are the facts behind the myths of martial arts.

Wow, someone had their tastee wheat this morning.

I think July 7th is an auspicious day.

It would be nice if the Wachowskis would come and beat me to the punch.

Anyway, it's turning out to be a little longer than expected.

Let's see how this plays out.

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I thought if I told the board the main theme, everyone could come up with theories based on that theme. Or, I could just shut up and let things be. BTW, I'm not doing anything ginormously fabtabulous, a couple posters are pretty damn close.

Gina Rink,
Not only can you count my vote as "aye!" but I know you expected me to say it. This is a long awaited moment.

I agree that it is lamentable that some of us have that tendency to put our own theories that we concoct for the trilogy ahead of trying to find out what it really has to say

Ok then!

Oh and before I forget, I turning on the 'watch this thread' function.

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I think July 7th is an auspicious day.

Hmm. Especially if it was '07.

i think that i would like to know either way. Cause most of use here on this site have big brains and are willing to push the envolope to the very edge of the table i think that most of us here would be able to handle the truth, even if you wanted to get out or not.

Neo1 wrote:

i think that i would like to know either way. Cause most of use here on this site have big brains and are willing to push the envolope to the very edge of the table i think that most of us here would be able to handle the truth, even if you wanted to get out or not.

Actually, it has very little to do with how smart you are. It has more to do with exposure and your belief systems. You really have to get into the subtext to worry about brain power (and there will be a little of that). I'm talking about getting the obvious stuff out of the way.

I'm not going too far indepth anyway. And, I know what I say will be ignored by most of the fans who have a penchant for the overly dramatic or, as you say, like to push the envelope to the end of the table.

I will say this...if you're serious about knowing what the movies were about. I'd be here on the 7th.

Anyway, we'll see how it plays out.

what i ment when refering to big brains, was that most people that become aware of the matrix hold high IQ's and a greater scence of awareness for the things around them, ie. it would be more obvious for someone with a higher iq to see thing in a different light than someone that doesn't. while yes faith also plays a part in thing as well it is only a small part.

Hey man, you don't have to beat around the bush. It just so happened that as soon as I got my computer working again (the power supplies have a tendency to explode at this house), I chose this thread to read first and saw your comments.

yes all, it was me Kozar who continually drug on and on about my personal conclusion about the intro to Revolutions, and bash other peoples theories about the driver of the car being "Seraph" (which everyone I talk with here in the hard world still make fun of). But then I realize I went AWOL for like a month with me newly finished write-up essentially lost on an unpowered hard drive. Now that I'm up again I will close this post and open a new thread starting with only my paper and the thread title "Another Golden Intro Theory". It's in the Matrix Chit Chat & Fun. Hope to see you all commenting on what you think of it.

Kozar

I wrote it on purpose here, having hope that you might read it and start writing! Well.. it worked!

See you at the other thread..

Neo1 wrote:

what i ment when refering to big brains, was that most people that become aware of the matrix hold high IQ's and a greater scence of awareness for the things around them, ie. it would be more obvious for someone with a higher iq to see thing in a different light than someone that doesn't. while yes faith also plays a part in thing as well it is only a small part.

And how about intuition?

Today is the day!

tozy wrote:

Neo1 wrote: what i ment when refering to big brains, was that most people that become aware of the matrix hold high IQ's and a greater scence of awareness for the things around them, ie. it would be more obvious for someone with a higher iq to see thing in a different light than someone that doesn't. while yes faith also plays a part in thing as well it is only a small part. And how about intuition?

and that as well, thanks tozy i missed that one.

th3 p4th wrote:

Today is the day!

Get some rest. The answers are coming....

Here's the link of the fans I said were close:

But what is real, I know.

Click the link and then choose the "Download attachment".

Conspiracy is one of the many splinters digging into my mind, driving me mad.

but if it wasn't for people coming up with consipricy theories then people wouldn't become aware of the truth.

CaptPostMod wrote:

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Been to wikipedia already. If I choose to not understand and that's not your responsibility, then why reply telling me I choose to not understand if you want no responsibility in my not understanding?

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I guess no one has taught you the fallacy of circular logic. If I use your logic, the fact that you ask the question means you know the answer, right? Again, you offer a conclusion without reasoning. If I use your logic, the fact that you ask the question means you know the answer, right?

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If I use your logic, the fact that you ask this question means you know the answer, right?

CaptPostMod replies:

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If I use your logic, the fact that you ask the question means you know the answer, right?

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If I use your logic, the fact that you ask this question means you know the answer, right? Again, a conclusion without reasoning. And, now that I've proven that you're a discordian. Now, we know who to ignore from now on.

CaptPostMod replies:

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Again, a conclusion without reasoning. And, now that you've proven you're a hypocrite, we know who to ignore from now on. And you proved yourself to be a discordian back here--

So what's his problem? I mean, even for a self-proclaimed psuedo-intellectual, he's pretty stupid. So what's going on? Matrix fans having a tough time dealing with what's being said lately. Hell, you should have been conditioned by the third movie...all the times the Ws slapped us in the face with buddhism/hinduism and death.

The shame is...the person who showed the most potential is going to have to eat crow in order to finish their best work.

Anyway, those of you trying to elevate your thoughts, keep up the good work. Mind you, when you figure all this out, they won't believe you either. For instance, seven and seven and seven things happened on the day when I asked about war, yet our alleged psuedo-intellectual friend is supposedly not privy to these common things. Completely obvious, and you'll have to tend with that, too.