»Tank as The Wizard«

Ok..

This is my little theory on what happened with the matrix..

This will be the post to end all speculation over what I have said... No joke..

Ok..

If you have seen the matrix you would know of the similarites it has with the wizard of oz.. Now with that said.
I will get to the point..

Near the end of m1 when neo is escaping from the agents Neo refers to tank as being Mr Wizard.

But didnt dorothy go to the wizard at the end of the yellow brick road for help.. Aka neos path.
The wizard helped dorothy to get home..

Also at the end of m1 neo gets his..
COURAGE...in facing smith.
HEART... Falls in love with trinity.
INTELLECT...Which shows when neo talks to the machines at the end..

Remember there were no sequels to the wizard of oz.
The path of neo had ended

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

Near the end of m1 when neo is escaping from the agents Neo refers to tank as being Mr Wizard.

First of all that story doesnt make sense..

Neo knew who he was. He was happy with being the one.

Tank even said he is the ONE a bit before this happened..

Tank wasnt refering to neo as being something that he was not. Tank always believed that neo was the one..


dorothy also wants the wizard to get her out of that world..

Tank didnt always believe it, remember:

'If you are...then this is a very exiting time'

Also, he doesnt show the blind belief that Morpheus does throughout the film, until all see that he is indeed the one.

Also, Neo adresses tank as Mr Wizard, unlike Dorothy...but very much like Tooter.

GhostTrax wrote:

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote: Near the end of m1 when neo is escaping from the agents Neo refers to tank as being Mr Wizard. imdb.com... When Neo is calling to get extracted from the Matrix, he says, "Mr. Wizard get me out of here." - a reference to the 1960s cartoon Tooter Turtle. Each episode, Tooter would yearn to be something he wasn't and have his friend Mr. Wizard (a lizard) wave his magic wand and make him an astronaut or a scientist or whatever. Inevitably, Tooter would quickly get himself into trouble and call out, "Help Mr Wizard," and the lizard would say, "Drizzle, drazzle, druzzle, drome, time for this one to come home." Tooter would be transported back to his old self and be chided by Mr Wizard to "be happy with what you are". THE_FIRST_ONE wrote: The path of neo had ended Nope.

Nice trivia!

I think it's on the box set, too. I remember that said.

Anyway, First One, please, do a little research first or you might get challenged when you try to use references in the films as support.

There was a sequel.

imdb.com...

Holds the world record for longest time between an original movie and its sequel.



Also, wouldn't ib be beter to say Neo got his
BRAIN when he left the matrix.

I always thought that they were refering to the TV show "Mr. Wizard" we watched as kids. I thought Neo called him Mr. Wizard because of his knowledge of the PC console on the Neb, all of the programs, constucts, etc...I was unaware of Tooter Turtle. This obviously makes more sense. Good stuff

Darius wrote:

There was a sequel. imdb.com... Holds the world record for longest time between an original movie and its sequel.

Not only that, but the BOOK on which the movie was based (written by L. Frank Baum) had sequels:

The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904)
Ozma of Oz (1907)
Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz (1908)
The Road to Oz (1909)
The Emerald City of Oz (1910)
The Patchwork Girl of Oz (1913)
Tik-Tok of Oz (1914)
The Scarecrow of Oz (1915)
The Lost Princess of Oz (1917)
The Tin Woodman of Oz (1918)
The Magic of Oz (1919)
Glinda of Oz (1920)
The Visitors from Oz, which was adapted from a comic strip by Baum and appeared in 1960.

Feral Boy wrote:

Darius wrote: There was a sequel. imdb.com... Holds the world record for longest time between an original movie and its sequel. Not only that, but the BOOK on which the movie was based (written by L. Frank Baum) had sequels: The Marvelous Land of Oz (1904) Ozma of Oz (1907) Dorothy and the Wizard of Oz (1908) The Road to Oz (1909) The Emerald City of Oz (1910) The Patchwork Girl of Oz (1913) Tik-Tok of Oz (1914) The Scarecrow of Oz (1915) The Lost Princess of Oz (1917) The Tin Woodman of Oz (1918) The Magic of Oz (1919) Glinda of Oz (1920) The Visitors from Oz, which was adapted from a comic strip by Baum and appeared in 1960.

Dorothy you can kiss Kansas bye bye.

It might seem right that you can refer this statement to the matrix, But in reality it doesnt fit right.
Because when neo starts his path in m1, Cypher puts the fitting statement to the situation..

''You better buckle your seatbelt dorothy because kansas is going bye bye.''

This is a clue to what I know is the start of neos path, The yellowbrick road if you will.

It would only be fitting if there was a wizard at the end of the path. And other subtle hints to back this up.

Like neo destroying the wicked witch of the west.. Aka smith near the end of the path..
Another hint is that dorothy had to click her heels 3 times.
But doesnt trinity wake neo up, And trinity's name stands for 3..

About the sequels for the wizard of oz..
The land of oz had ended once dorothy woke up, It was just a dream. Any other add on to the story would just be useless.

As some of you may know a wizard is also a good hacker within a narrow field of hacking.
The actual truth is that neo was refering to tanks hacking abilities. You know the guy who knew that neo was the one and was to get neo out of the dreamworld.

Also it was dorothy who didnt believe that she had the powers of a good witch..

Remember that neo says HELP need A little HELP.
Dorothy went to the wizard for help to get home.

The mr wizard title has nothing to do with the turtle story.

The fact is neo didnt have a hard shell until after he defeated smith...

What about Alice in Wonderland? Try to decode the Matrix this way.

Th3 p4th I take it that you must of understood my last post.

The thing is, Is that the matrix is its own movie. It might borrow ideas from a lot of different sources. But in reality doesnt everything?
The matrix has its own originality, But has ideas reminiscent of past great works.

What is it that you want to know?
Because I believe that you can see how alice in wonderland works with this movie.

The matrix only uses snippets where it has to.

th3 p4th wrote:

What about Alice in Wonderland? Try to decode the Matrix this way.

My brain is about to pop there is so much information to decipher that I can not figure all this stuff.

The rabbit in Alice is the true origin of Easter and it is not Christian.

There are real world represent the real world and Fantacy world is the bible.

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

It would only be fitting if there was a wizard at the end of the path. And other subtle hints to back this up.

The Wizard is Jesus.
here is Jesus with a magic Wand.

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

The matrix only uses snippets where it has to.

That's exactly what I wanted to say! So maybe you are wrong saying that that particular scene was influenced from the Wizard of the Oz.

th3 p4th wrote:

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote: The matrix only uses snippets where it has to. That's exactly what I wanted to say! So maybe you are wrong saying that that particular scene was influenced from the Wizard of the Oz.

yes each film has its own story or part of a biblical story or Message

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

when neo starts his path in m1, Cypher puts the fitting statement to the situation.. ''You better buckle your seatbelt dorothy because kansas is going bye bye.'' This is a clue to what I know is the start of neos path, The yellowbrick road if you will. It would only be fitting if there was a wizard at the end of the path. And other subtle hints to back this up.

Hmm...a path that Neo follows. I believe there was reference to a "path of the One" in M2 and M3. I also believe that Neo reached the end of that path. Was there a wizard at the end of the path? Well whaddya know, there sure was! The Architect, who runs Oz, er...I mean, the Matrix...stood behind the veil, er...I mean, the door of light. Wow, all these comparisons to the Wizard of Oz carry through so nicely when you look at the trilogy as a whole. How interesting!

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

About the sequels for the wizard of oz.. The land of oz had ended once dorothy woke up, It was just a dream. Any other add on to the story would just be useless.

Whether or not they were useless is not the issue here. You stated the following:

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

Remember there were no sequels to the wizard of oz.

You were wrong about that. Now if you want to debate whether or not the sequels to the Wizard of Oz were useless, that's another debate. But they do, in fact, exist.

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believe there was reference to a "path of the One" in M2 and M3. I also believe that Neo reached the end of that path.

Neo was expected to follow a pre-arranged path to an unknown result. After a while (not to mention the words of Smith, Merv, and Arc) that didn't make sense so he found his own Path. Likewise, how was a yellow-brick road going to help if this is supposedly the only time this has happened. How did everyone know that the wizard could do anything for her. It was the clicking of the heels.

"Welcome, home."
Link: "No place like it." M2

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I also believe that Neo reached the end of that path. Was there a wizard at the end of the path? Well whaddya know, there sure was! The Architect, who runs Oz, er...I mean, the Matrix...stood behind the veil, er...I mean, the door of light.

The Architect was only in the middle of the path. He was no wizard. He like Morpheus (or Oracle) was looking for something too. He was looking for "heart" and found it once he saw where Neo's really was.

"contingent affirmation...your experience has been far more specific, vis-a-vis, LOVE."

And he is basically a Tin man in being emotionless and dressed in almost the same colour.

Morpheus and Oracle were looking for "courage." Lions. But not really cowardly.

"Someone is going to have to fight them."
"In the one hand, your going to have Morpheus' life. In the other one, your own. One of you is going to die."
"You have to (understand your choice)." "Because you're the one."

The Merovingian was looking for brain/mind. Questioning Neo, Trin, and Morph about knowing the real reason behind their quest for the Keymaker and it being his "business to know" things are a clue. Plus he would have kept Neo (his mind) in Mobil Ave. for a "long, long, time."

Scarecrows are there to instill fear in crows and scare them away from crops. Pods are arranged almost like corn on cobs. And Merv's people remind you of what people have been afraid of through the recent centuries, ghosts, werewolves, and vampires, oh my! lol.

The veil would be the darkened sky and the wizard would be the Deus Ex Machina complete with thundering voice and all.

And you all were right about the wicked witch of the West. Who was wicked, did magical spells turning people into something, and dressed in black? The Smith.

Enough of all that. When you de-CYPHER this, pucker up, First_One and kiss your OZ good-bye.

You all do have good points and I understand what you say..
Intell it is a clever argument that you came up with.
You are actually thinking in my direction for once. In fact I have nothing against your counter argument, I think that it is productive..

The idea about the powerplant looking like corn crops is a good one.

But have a think about what you said for a minute,

See if this makes sense..

1. Humans are the corn in the pod.
2. The machines are the crows feeding off the corn.
3. Neo is the scarecrow.
4. neo has to get his abilities and intellect to scare of the crows {machines}

Make sense?

Well it should.. It tells you why smith couldnt have scared the crows in m2.

Smith was actually the witch in m1, so the idea that he is a scarecrow is just a bad joke..

Davinci you bought up a very good point about jesus as the wizard and magician etc.

The real fact is is that tank really isnt the wizard and magician. It was just symbolism..
Neo is these characters..

1. Neo gains his abilities, His intellect, Heart and courage himself = Wizard = total ability. JESUS
2. The man born inside is the magician = changes things.
he is the same man just like neo = JESUS

The magician is less powerful than a wizard.

Even the tarot cards say that jesus is these 2 prodigies..
Jiust like the one was these 2 Prodigies.

So see if you can now bring m2 and m3 into the fray and dispute what I have to say..

m1 = realism
m2 and m3 = fantasy