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This image is from the beggining of the Matrix Revolutions where you have a big bang then some gold fractals and the last golden image you see is that:

There's a very popular (read: fanon) theory that the Machine City in The Matrix Revolutions is, in fact, 01. So, you're not alone.

No it's not a theory. It's a fact. I think. I mean everyone (?) thinks of that too.

What I ask is if the building from 01 that we see at Sec Ren could be the same from M3. And why all the Machines buildings, and the Machines city itself, have that round shape.

in one of the special on the dvd, some says that the machince city represents a living breathing ecosystem like a coral reef.

Neo1 wrote:

in one of the special on the dvd, some says that the machince city represents a living breathing ecosystem like a coral reef.

Nice! Yeah, that could be the answer!

Wait, you want to tell me that Machine city is NOT the 01? Or am I stupid ?

i think there is no 01 becouse they run the serfece of the world

You can also see it in the Reloaded intro:

Yes I was going to upload a screenshot of that too.

Thank you!

once again very nicely tied together, this was a subject is was 100% clear on, becuase i thought it may be different because of the change of color from grey to blue (oh, and yes i know the skys not covered in the sec rec picture)

Yeah I suppose you like my threads because I upload pictures that can give some proof. And now that I became a moderator (matrix-explained.com... )I'll try even harder!
I expect from you guys the same, try to give us FACTS!

i like pictures because i lose intrest in long sections of texts, so pictures help give you a mental image. and congrates on the moderator role *runs and cries* (only joking)

Yeah me too and that's why I start these type of threads. I also have some in my mind for future posting I just need to take good screenshots.

And thanx Dee!

VERY cool pics, th3 p4th! I don't know how you did it (aside from having just a bit of extra time on your hands and heightened observational skills), but that comparison between the fractal at the beginning of M3 and the overhead shot of the Machine City at the end of M3 was fantastic!

It's been a while since I've seen that beginning scene of M3 with all the computer animation. Do you think there's any reason for showing the Machine City at that point, other than for fanboys like us to go "Whoa! Cool!" What things are shown before and after the fractal?

I'm happy that you like it. But I was sure that all of you have thought of these things, and I'm not the first one.

Here's what happens:

For a few seconds there's silence and nothing happens. Then suddenly you have a big bang explosion:

th3 p4th wrote:

..and its shape turns out to be the following symbol that we see for the first time in the code of the Matrix:

i too have questioned this symbol
At first glance, i thought it was taurus the bull...

good pics

th3 p4th wrote:

Sure it means something but I don't know what.

Larry: The beginnings, the little tiny introductions to each film has kind of a reflection of what each movie is about... and, you know, we say, we sort of, in those little tiny prefaces to each film, we kind of tell the audience where we are in the journey of development (...) I mean, the Matrix is an exploration of consciousness, those little tiny bits and pieces at the beginning of each of the films sort of, tries to help you map it out a little bit...
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My take on it:
The intros are spirit/state of consciousness made visible by the means of light.

In the Revs intro, we see the whole spectrum of consciousness (starhtml.de...):
the Absolute (the One) throwing itself out into the multiplicity of forms (the many), forgetting about its true ONE-nature...
-> big bang and outward movement
...and the spiritual quest, the path of return from the many to the One in the inward movement, back towards the centre of the big bang.

But the inward movement comes to a halt at the machine city. This is where spirit has come so far on its path back towards the One (spiritual evolution): human spirit.

This state of consciousness is the underlying reality of the Matrix (collect consciousnes of man). Thus we see, in an outward movement,... from the machine city, as the underlying reality of: yellow code -> as the underlying reality of: green code -> as the underlying reality of: the Matrix...

... and the building in the form of a 7...

Once again great work tozy. My question is why at the intro of Reloaded we get to see many spirals and not only this one you posted. While at the intro of Revolutions you only see one big fractal - spiral.

yeah plz tell us

My friend linked me to this site. I read just this thread and was impressed by a few peoples understanding of the films. However, having said that I am somewhat shocked to see people like "agame" say things like "Plz tell us" to "Tozy" like whatever she says is the truth and should be absolutely believed. Please do not misunderstand me, I am not saying Tozy is incorrect. I agree with alot of what she says, in fact I didn't know anyone else has looked this deep into the intro besides myslef. But like we see in religion, if you follow somebodys interpretation of an event or belief and don't consider it for yourself it most likely spells disaster. You all will agree with that...

This being my first post I will not comment on my interpretation of the screenshots posted, but only wait until you people have asked for my interpretation, because I may not be welcome here, and thus you all won't listen to my responses anyway. So I await a few positive replies.

But for now I will just say this, the presence of the similarities of the two gold overhead shots of the machine city are significant. But as the Merovigian said "Why is the only real source of power". Simply ask yourselves why they are being shown at those times, then you will have the answers you seek.

Kozar

P.S. Also there is a DEFINITIVE explanation for the "horned glyph" shown in the pics. But I will wait to post that too.

Welcome to matrix-explained forums! You say your friend linked this page to you. Is he / she a member of matrix-explained? (Just curiousity)

Ok read here: matrix-explained.com... the last post of tozy.

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And, btw, I WANT my thoughts to be challenged. As I told you before, just agreement doesn't get you any further...

Hehe.. Tozy is so cool!

And ofcourse you are welcome to say your opinion and contribute to these forums. So tell us what you think of the picture that I posted.

Ok cool, I read the post.

First of all I am not one to tell any of my conclusions of what I see in the movies because 1- All of my theories are ever changing and evolving, and 2- I mimic the Oracle in her methods of hinting to Neo so he can find his own answers.

Now the new information I will bring to light is how the vision of the machine city in the intro to M3 is reached by us the viewers.

And the second clue I will give is to go to the vision of the "Horned Glyph" and turn your DVD player to reverse and slow motion. Hopefully you have that option. It is a really strange way to view the intro, but "sometimes it is easier if you work backwards" - Paycheck

OK I tried that in the past I tried it now too. What else?

Tsukasa wrote:

th3 p4th wrote: ..and its shape turns out to be the following symbol that we see for the first time in the code of the Matrix: i too have questioned this symbol At first glance, i thought it was taurus the bull...

Ok, sometimes I like to give hints and let people draw their own conclusions but sometimes the answers are clear-cut...


In the game "The Matrix Online" the Megacity is broken up into four main districts "Westview, Downtown, International, and Richland". While those four are only small sections of the entire span of the Matrix they are all geographically located in areas of MegaCity which is shaped EXACTLY like the above figure. So there is your answer, now couple that information with my previous post and possibly the answers will come to you.