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The Oracle merely told him he would "find" The One, does it ever say or imply anywhere 'how' he found Neo?

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Ramakandra wrote:

The Oracle merely told him he would "find" The One, does it ever say or imply anywhere 'how' he found Neo?


We know some things. First of all, Neo is the One. That simply means the machines have loaded in him the prime program and have placed him in a position to be found by the resistence, so that he may walk the Path of the One. As Trinity will testify (in an earlier draft of the M1 script), the question "What is the matrix?" is a hacker's question, that of a web surfer, someone with access to lots of information. Without discovering the existence of the matrix, one can't come to learn about it. Neo was clearly concerned about the matrix long before he met the resistence. We first see him looking at an online newspaper clip of Morpheus. Morpheus indicates that Neo's been looking for him for the past three years. Morpheus meanwhile had been looking for Neo for longer than that, ever since the Oracle told him he would find the One.

Such a coordination would not be difficult for the machines to organize. Seems the machines were leading Neo to Morpheus, and they, through the Oracle, were obviously leading Morpheus to Neo. The two eventually crossed paths, believing they were acting on choice and on freedom, and they would inevitably stick together.

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We know some things. First of all, Neo is the One. That simply means the machines have loaded in him the prime program


I thought the prime program was the Oracle.. Screwy

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The prime program is code carried by the One, inserted into the him by the machines, connecting him to the source and all things machine-created. Its purpose is to keep the matrix from being destroyed. There's a lot of argument as to what it actually is. To me it has to do with the viral counterpart to the One, Smith in this case, and the destruction he would lay over the matrix in the case the One chooses not to reinsert the prime program.

I see some alternate logic in it having some connection to the Oracle, as she has connection to the viral counterpart of the One, but it's clearly not the Oracle herself. She remains in the matrix, she's not the program inserted into the One so he can reload it.

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I did some research on the phrase "prime program" as it pertains to programming, and I found that it refers to a decision tree with an entry point and an exit point, and any number of decision points along the way that lead from the entry to the exit. In other words, the prime program is the Path of the One.

The Path of the One ends at the Source, with the One unloading the code he carries. And if that's the end, then the next step--choosing 23 individuals to rebuild Zion--would be the beginning of the Path of the One.

In the game the Matrix Online, the Architect states that the reinsertion of the prime program was aborted. That hardly describes the Oracle, or any sentient program for that matter. What that means is that since Zion was not destroyed and Neo therefore did not have to choose 23 individuals to rebuild it (not that he could have anyway, being dead and all), the Path of the One was not started over.

Neo chose a different path. Instead of the Path of the One, which was merely a control measure, he chose the Path of Neo, which led to peace. The Oracle only had the ability to see to the end of the Path of the One, but by intuition knew that the way to peace was beyond that path. And by faith in Neo she knew that he would find that way. Neo and the Oracle together found that door, but as always Neo was the One who had to step through it. The Oracle was merely the guide.

For further clarification, here are some terms the Architect uses and their definitions:

PRIME PROGRAM: the Path of the One
ANOMALY: the rejection of the Matrix by 1% of the population
SYSTEMIC ANOMALY: the glitch created by the rejection of the Matirx
INTEGRAL ANOMALY: the sum total of all the rejections
EVENTUALITY OF THE ANOMALY: the One

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Best post ever by anyone, Feral Boy! Smile Smile Smile Thumbup

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Hats off, Feral. I saw people all happy at your return a week ago, and now I can see why. Let's be friends Cool

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Thank you guys, but any opinions of mine that you like are a direct result of being active on this forum. The Bible talks about iron sharpening iron, and that's exactly what this forum can do for you if you let it. I've changed my opinions on any given Matrix topic so many times over the months that I participated actively as new and better information became available to me. If you'd seen some of my ideas when I first started posting, you would have thought I was a noob for sure. Because, well, I was.

That being said, I thank you for the encouragement and I hope to keep learning and keep challenging all of you. We all learn from each other, and it's awesome!

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Feral Boy wrote:

Thank you guys, but any opinions of mine that you like are a direct result of being active on this forum. The Bible talks about iron sharpening iron, and that's exactly what this forum can do for you if you let it. I've changed my opinions on any given Matrix topic so many times over the months that I participated actively as new and better information became available to me. If you'd seen some of my ideas when I first started posting, you would have thought I was a noob for sure. Because, well, I was.

That being said, I thank you for the encouragement and I hope to keep learning and keep challenging all of you. We all learn from each other, and it's awesome!


Amen to all that, big man. My experience is just the same. I just happened upon this forum, and since becoming actively engaged in thinking through the facets it presents, I've learned new methods of studying all kinds of other things as well.

I don't know if anyone realizes it, but tying a story together through through types, shadows, symbols, terms and phrases, etc, the Wachowskis' style also strongly resembles Jewish literary methods of hiding messages, prophesying, and telling stories. This website has aided me to plunge deeper into other deep rabbit holes as well.

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I have watched M! a number of times. It starts off with Morpheus being sure that Neo is THE ONE. I am aware of nothing obvious or subtle in any of the movies which indicated how Morpheus selected Neo.

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Oh yeah, back to the subject of how Morpheus found Neo (thanks psikeyhackr). Zion is always putting its feelers out for new recruits and some of the people who have already unconsciously rejected the Matrix find these ways of contacting them. But like you said psikeyhackr, there's no way of knowing why Morpheus that that Neo was the One. He was obviously someone who rejected the world around him, but what set him apart from all the other people who had done the same? That's something that has never been revealed.

Perhaps it was a combination of Morpheus' blind faith and the Oracle's ability to tap into that. Perhaps her timing in telling Morpheus that he would find the one was what prompted it. Maybe Morpheus was already looking at Neo as a candidate and had his suspicions. Then he goes to the Oracle for guidance, she tells him that he will find the One, and that has the effect of cementing in Morpheus' mind that it's Neo. We all know how powerful those meetings with the Oracle are, and it's not just WHAT she says or HOW, but WHEN.

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Like I done said, it would be a piece of cake for the machines to coordinate such a move, through their engineering of the One, and their insider's influence.

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well to be simple it was Morpheus's purpose to know right so therefore he just knew. lol that was lame.

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{Morpheus} wrote:

well to be simple it was Morpheus's purpose to know right so therefore he just knew. lol that was lame.

Hehe, y'know, if you realize your comment is lame, probly best just not to post it.

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LOL, Morpheus is the Beast Poster! 666 posts!

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Feral Boy wrote:

LOL, Morpheus is the Beast Poster! 666 posts!

Maybe that's why he made that lame post there---

Rev. 13:18 Evilfire The watchers are coming.

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u guys r halarious u know that. but hey dont hate on my post number....appreciate it.

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