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Symbols in the Matrix & References to existing philosophies

 

Granny Smith

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I dont want to go as far as analizing every detail in the movies, couse its just not my thing, but...
I do think that Neo is the only savior we will get in this 2000 years to come, virtual he may be, but like the machines he is real. Like japanese I belive that everything has soul, a tree, a rock, a river and why not a movie caracter if he can make you think and change your life.
Also this movie joins every religion and belif together into one human belif in us as one race.
It can certanly change our way of thinking, so when that day comes we could treet the machines with respect.

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One man come in the name of love
One man come and go
One man come, he to justify
One man to overthrow

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love

One man caught on a barbed wire fence
One man he resist
One man washed on an empty beach.
One man betrayed with a kiss

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love

(nobody like you...)

Early morning, April 4
Shot rings out in the Memphis sky
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride

In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love
In the name of love
What more in the name of love...

Morpheus: You've been living in a dream world, Neo.
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Check out the business about Enoch and Melchizedek.

reluctant-messenger.com...


reluctant-messenger.com...


I would suggest you get a concordance and read all the references to Enoch and Melchizedek in the Bible.

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I'm tired of seeing that "nearly 200 posts."

SO THERE!

psik of this sh!t

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Check out the business about Enoch and Melchizedek.

reluctant-messenger.com...


reluctant-messenger.com...


I would suggest you get a concordance and read all the references to Enoch and Melchizedek in the Bible.


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Can you summaries one or two points from this URLs?

I did NOT know that The Roman Catholic Church recognize the Pagan Age of Aquarius.

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I'm tired of seeing that "nearly 200 posts."

SO THERE!

psik of this sh!t


In Babylonia, this region of the zodiac was known as the Sea. Here we also find, Capricornus, the water goat and Pisces, the fish.

To the Greeks, Aquarius was associated with Ganymede, the son of Tros, king of Phrygia.

The Egyptians associated this time of year with the god Hapi. A heavyset, abundant figure, Hapi was responsible for the annual flooding of the river Nile. In some images he is seen watering the earth from two large jugs.

the Piscean Age was an era of religious intolerance, when large populations were expected to show unquestioning allegiance to a monolithic belief system, as exhibited in much of Christianity and Islam during this time.

In some respects, we might well call the Piscean Age the ultimate age of neurosis. For example, this was an era when many felt that suffering and guilt were somehow synonymous with spirituality.

The Age of Aquarius is the awakening of mind in the evolution of human consciousness. Understood symbolically, air is the medium through which we communicate our thoughts and ideas, and is the element most associated with rationality and thinking. What this means is that the Aquarian Age will undoubtedly witness major advances in humanity's intellectual growth, though admittedly at widely varying levels of sophistication.

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Granny Smith wrote:

I do think that Neo is the only savior we will get in this 2000 years to come,


I think that were there is a need for a Savior a Savior will come.

The song Pride by U2

Tells about One man coming to save his people in the name of love.

One man caught on a barbed wire fence ( ?)
One man he resist ( ?)
One man washed on an empty beach. (Moses)
One man betrayed with a kiss (Jesus)

Early morning, April 4
Shot rings out in the Memphis sky
Free at last, they took your life
They could not take your pride (Martin Luther King, Jr.)

A Savior Will Come

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DaVinci wrote:

psikeyhackr wrote:

Check out the business about Enoch and Melchizedek.

reluctant-messenger.com...


reluctant-messenger.com...


I would suggest you get a concordance and read all the references to Enoch and Melchizedek in the Bible.


psikeyhackr


Can you summaries one or two points from this URLs?

I did NOT know that The Roman Catholic Church recognize the Pagan Age of Aquarius.


I am not aware of the Catholic Church acknowledging astrology in any way on an official level but I have read in a couple of places that the Vatican has one of the most extensive libraries on astrology in the world.

As a result of reading The Ultimate Frontier by Eklal Kueshana many many moons ago I became interested in the occult and this Melchizedek character was brought to my attention. TUF claims that he is the head Archangel and that he occupied the body that was crucified as Christ 2000 years ago. So this caused me to pay close attention to everything that was said about him in the Bible.


What does this mean in Hebrews:

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19 We have this as a sure and steadfast anchor of the soul, a hope that enters into the inner shrine behind the curtain, 20 where Jesus has gone as a forerunner on our behalf, having become a high priest for ever after the order of Melchiz'edek.


Now Melchizedek is only mentioned 11 times in the entire Bible and 9 of those occur in Hebrews. There is some controversy about who wrote Hebrews. Some say it was Paul but others disagree. Paul could not have written the other two mentions of Melchizedek in Genesis and Psalms. Why would he suddenly go Melchizedek crazy in Hebrews and never mention him in any of the writings that no one disputes that he wrote? Encyclopedia Britannica says that Hebrews is written in the "most sophisticated and cultured Greek" of any book in the New Testament. That is why people question Paul's authorship. I have never seen anyone bring up this issue about Melchizedek.

Hebrews also says:

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3 He is without father or mother or genealogy, and has neither beginning of days nor end of life, but resembling the Son of God he continues a priest for ever.


How does a man not have a mother?

Now The Aquarian Gospel of Jesus the Christ says that Enoch, Melchizedek and Jesus are the avatars of three different Ages and says the Aquarian Age is coming. So this caused me to check out Enoch in the Bible.


The Bible also says:

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Genesis 5:24 - Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him.

Hebrews 11:5 - By faith Enoch was taken up so that he should not see death; and he was not found, because God had taken him. Now before he was taken he was attested as having pleased God.

Jude 1:14 - It was of these also that Enoch in the seventh generation from Adam prophesied, saying, "Behold, the Lord came with his holy myriads,


Now it is in Hebrews 7:3 that melchizedek is said to not have a mother. The number 7 is mentioned quite often in the Bible and Enoch was in the 7th generation after Adam. The number 3 is also significant. 3 wise men, 3 crosses at crucifiction. Strong's concordance says the number 3 appears in the Bible even more than the number 7. I saw a numerology book which said that 7 was a number associated with God. but you know how much BS is in occult books. Whitelaugh

There are also two ancient texts which are not included in the Bible, The Book of Enoch and The Book of the Secrets of Enoch. So this Enoch person is not some fly by night nobody that just happened to get mentioned in the Bible.

So a rather peculiar idea occured to me. If God created the universe he should have no trouble playing games with Einstein's relativity. Of course it isn't Einstein's he just happened to figure out that it is part of the nature of how the universe works. But supposed God snatches Enoch. Stuffs him in some kind of relativity warp bubble and 2000 years go by on Earth while say a day passes for Enoch. Then God drops him off at a time warp bus stop in the middle east and he tells everybody his name is Melchizedek. So he arrived on Earth as an adult with NO MOTHER. But it means that Enoch and Melchizedek are the same soul in the same body. And if TUF is correct the advanced soul born as Jesus turned his body over to Melchizedek to be crucified, so very wierd things are happening and possibly scheduled to happen on planet Earth.

So, is that an adequate demonstration of my personal insanity. And that is why I pointed you at those two links.


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3 wise men


Who said there were 3? Not any of the gospels. This number came from people saying there were 3.

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so very wierd things are happening and possibly scheduled to happen on planet Earth.


Yep. And some of them are not going to be too pleasant.

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Who said there were 3? Not any of the gospels. This number came from people saying there were 3.


You are right. This is only mentioned in Matthew I presume people have made an assumption on the basis of the number of gifts

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Then, opening their treasures, they offered him gifts, gold and frankincense and myrrh.


If they knew each other and were traveling together it is not unreasonable that they knew what gift the others were giving and each wanted to give something different.

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If they knew each other and were traveling together it is not unreasonable that they knew what gift the others were giving and each wanted to give something different.

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Yep. I bring the gold coins, you bring the gold dishes, entropyfails brings the gold arm bands, max is coming with 10 talents worth of frankincense and so on.

Another question to consider is why that star guided them first to Herod, who would have wanted any challenger to the throne of Israel dead? I mean, IF that star was supposed to be from God...?

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Here's a link to some research that was done by Dr. Ernest Martin regarding the Star of Bethlehem and exactly how it transpired, based on scientific study. Very interesting stuff!

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of course their is that minor detail that no historian mentions herad killing babies because he's afraid of a new king of isreal... Bleh, I don't like to pick on the bible, but it has to be said.

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hexediter wrote:

of course their is that minor detail that no historian mentions herad killing babies because he's afraid of a new king of isreal... Bleh, I don't like to pick on the bible, but it has to be said.

Hex, I'm not sure what you mean by that. How is that picking on the Bible? Oh wait, I think I just now got it. You're saying that the Bible is the only place where it mentions that Herod tried to kill babies due to his fear, and that no other historical source backs this story up, right?

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Right. And absence of proof is not proof of absence, but still worth mentioning. Okay. But the rest of the record is backed up so why bother with this item which is recorded by someone living at the time and not some later historian piecing together archived records? Not you, Hex, but whoever first brought it up. Nineveh, Belshazzar, and etc. had no records to corroborate what the Bible said about them until they were found so I say, "just hang in there."

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