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i dont know about the rest of u but i dont the part of M2 where Neo and the oracle met in the park and got to the subject of "assimilation". "the system doing something it's not supposed to be doing". i've been in the dark about this concept for some time now and request clarification from one more enlightened than myself.

It's about a system, an ecosystem, mother nature.

The system doesn't like anomalies. The system will always try to find a way to overcome/adopt a specific anomaly in order to maintain balance.

For Neo the system 'invented' Smith.

so its about balance. is that it?

so what balances out the twins? and WW, and Vamps?

The Vamps were creations of the system to balance something else out. At least that's what the Oracle is saying.

"programs hacking programs"

"they caused more problems than they solved"

So initially they were created by the system to eradicate some kind of anomaly, but then they probably exiled themselves --> caused more problems.

It's the same with Smith; he is a reaction to Neo, but he is now causing more problems that he is supposed to solve.

yes yes i c. and another thing what is the significance of when smith copied himself into the oracle and the big wind and stuff?

This is because I think the Oracle is the prime program of the Matrix or at least she is some sort of front-end shell representitive of the Matrix program.

When Smith takes her over he practically owns the Matrix.

o i c. that is good, well im done for the night but i'll be here monday bright and early.

If we are in a computer program then everything is following if follwing a certain path. Everything is happening for a reason.

With the full circle we have a chance to see what we post and how that can be insome way related to the matrix. In other words we do what we were meant to do.

You were meant to start this thread. Mobil One was meant to answer a few of your questions.

Sorry kiddo out of time again. Find the micro find the micro thread I left a message for you there.

run forest run

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I think the Oracle is the prime program of the Matrix or at least she is some sort of front-end shell representitive of the Matrix program.

"The reinsertion of the Prime Program was aborted" (Architect, MxO)

The Oracle is NOT the Prime Program the Architect was talking about.

intell wrote:

["The reinsertion of the Prime Program was aborted" (Architect, MxO) The Oracle is NOT the Prime Program the Architect was talking about.

Correct. I think the abortion was about Sati; she should have been the newly inserted prime program.

I think the prime program/Oracle gets reset/reloaded/recompiled just like all the other programs; like the Keymaker for example.

sati is a new charachter in the film. how can she carry so much weight. besides i dont think mobile is 100% correct about sati being the prime program.

Think what you like.

It's the most logical explanation in the timeline ever. If she is not the newly intended prime program then why is she at Mobil Ave station at the exact same time as Neo is?

She evens looks like the Oracle: brown skin and green clothings.

Ain't that hints enough?

She is indeed a new character because her purpose as the prime program was cancelled out. Now she has a new purpose: governing the sunrise.

well its greek to me for now, but i'll meditate more on the subject.

Yes I have red the new Architect speech already a long time ago.

It still fits within my theory.

i still disagree.

Well let us know your theories then.

Build them up with nice arguments and I am sure I will respond

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It still fits within my theory.

Oh really. With the Oracle or Sati as the prime program?

So when Arc says for him to reinsert the prime program, just what is on your mind?

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

Yes I have red the new Architect speech already a long time ago. It still fits within my theory.

i've posted it b4, smith ajnd neo both do they'r own thing as it follows the prophecy but it is done by free will. that is my stand point.

intell wrote:

Quote: It still fits within my theory. Oh really. With the Oracle or Sati as the prime program? So when Arc says for him to reinsert the prime program, just what is on your mind?

i thought the prime program was neo himself. him being the one and everything.

Well that's not too hard to imagine if you know a little something about computer science.

The prime program is only a complex set of digital coding. The 'shell' with which it communicates to the outside world is just a very small part of this digital coding.

The Arcitect: "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program"

I see it like this:

-Neo is the sum of 1%, this is expressed in a code he carries
-This code he carries is the 'loose end' of the currently running prime program
-When this code reaches the Source it is then disseminated through the entire Matrix (with this I mean that the code will travel among all the connected blue pills)
-This code travels together with the new prime program
-So what actually happens is this:

Neo's code reaches all the blue pills and 'tells' to each blue pill: "Hey I am the loose end of the program you accepted and here is another one for you!" (forgive my childish tone here).

So the One is just like the Architect said: both beginning and end! He closes the loop of the old prime program and spreads/connects the new prime program all over the Matrix, making a new start without shutting anything down.

While this is highly assuming, I like to think that this is correct. Neo is the 'loose end' of the current prime program. 99% is accepting the program; the program is just waiting for the remainder who is stalling the routines. When Neo returns to the Source this 'loose end' joins the 99% making it a temporary situation where 100% accepts the program. The prime program can finish it's routine and the new program is immediately 'weaved' into it, allowing for a full continuation of a new cycle.

And concerning Sati:

Sati is just the shell of the new prime program. Neo doesn't literally carry Sati or something.

The core code of the prime program is being spread through the Matrix via Neo's anomalous code. Both Neo's and Sati's full RSIs aren't involved.

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i thought the prime program was neo himself. him being the one and everything.

Very close. But Arc refers to him as the integral anomaly. The program is prime when it exists in a state where nobody has chosen to refuse it. (However long that is)

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i've posted it b4, smith ajnd neo both do they'r own thing as it follows the prophecy but it is done by free will. that is my stand point.

That is what makes the Prophecy so profound.

Hey make sure you don't miss my post

{Micro} you are so annoying

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

Well that's not too hard to imagine if you know a little something about computer science. The prime program is only a complex set of digital coding. The 'shell' with which it communicates to the outside world is just a very small part of this digital coding. The Arcitect: "The function of the One is now to return to the Source, allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program" I see it like this: -Neo is the sum of 1%, this is expressed in a code he carries -This code he carries is the 'loose end' of the currently running prime program -When this code reaches the Source it is then disseminated through the entire Matrix (with this I mean that the code will travel among all the connected blue pills) -This code travels together with the new prime program -So what actually happens is this: Neo's code reaches all the blue pills and 'tells' to each blue pill: "Hey I am the loose end of the program you accepted and here is another one for you!" (forgive my childish tone here). So the One is just like the Architect said: both beginning and end! He closes the loop of the old prime program and spreads/connects the new prime program all over the Matrix, making a new start without shutting anything down. While this is highly assuming, I like to think that this is correct. Neo is the 'loose end' of the current prime program. 99% is accepting the program; the program is just waiting for the remainder who is stalling the routines. When Neo returns to the Source this 'loose end' joins the 99% making it a temporary situation where 100% accepts the program. The prime program can finish it's routine and the new program is immediately 'weaved' into it, allowing for a full continuation of a new cycle. And concerning Sati: Sati is just the shell of the new prime program. Neo doesn't literally carry Sati or something. The core code of the prime program is being spread through the Matrix via Neo's anomalous code. Both Neo's and Sati's full RSIs aren't involved.

Mobil, I agreed with all you said up to the Sati edition. Take the point where you mention Neo restoring balance whereby 100% accept the matrix and run with that. That's just what I'm trying to say.

Or the code tells each of the blue pills, "everyone who chose to reject the program just got killed but your choice is not rendered invalid because of that. The way out is still here."

As for Sati, she's just an exile, a widow (like the myth of the same name) severed from her world. But as she makes the best of her circumstances she will show her former world a thing or two!