»How old is the matrix we saw?«

This has been bugging me for a bit, this simple question of how old was the matrix that we saw in the first-last movie?

This question also leads to... how did the 5th Neo die?


Think of it this way... at most Mr. Anderson is 25-30.

-If that is so then how do the people in the pods get transfered that are much older?
-How did the One before the current die?
-If the previous One did not die but chose the Architects plan then why are there old people?

Just some things that could stir up some theories... i have my own... but i preffer to hear yours.

Lazarus wrote:

This has been bugging me for a bit, this simple question of how old was the matrix that we saw in the first-last movie?

a few of us here have come to the conclusion that each cycle of the matrix lasts 100 years. So in M1 it would becoming close to the end of the 600th year.

Lazarus wrote:

This question also leads to... how did the 5th Neo die?

Because that neo has the anomly code in the 6th version this leads me to believe that the 5th one, chose the right door and returned tot eh source.

Lazarus wrote:

Think of it this way... at most Mr. Anderson is 25-30.

That would be about right, but you have to remember that the anomly code would have been inserted when he was a child.

Lazarus wrote:

-If that is so then how do the people in the pods get transfered that are much older?

the people in the pods while age normally, and as this happens there RSI changes in the matrix.

Lazarus wrote:

-How did the One before the current die?

I've already answered this one - see earlier answer

Lazarus wrote:

-If the previous One did not die but chose the Architects plan then why are there old people?

Because when a one return back to the source, he can only pick a certain amount of people, these people will populate the city of zion, so in saying that he would only choose young health people. that is why there are old people in the matrix.

Even if he chose... 5-6 old people it wouldn't explain the large number in the movies

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Even if he chose... 5-6 old people it wouldn't explain the large number in the movies

Just an idea, what is to say 5th intergral A. didnt choose people who were pregnant with twins, triplets etc. That would speed up the process, not by much but would kick in later.

Or mabye, going against my own opinion, the architect lied they could free up to 50 or something like that, that meaning the 23 people was just an ilusion.

Neo1 wrote:

a few of us here have come to the conclusion that each cycle of the matrix lasts 100 years. So in M1 it would becoming close to the end of the 600th year.

If the cycles of the Matrix are 100 years or so, then the entire timeline since the machines were victorious would be closer to a millenium. There would be the first paradise failed Matrix (which may have lasted less than a hundred years, but still existed for a period of time). Then possibly the Dark Age re-write of the Matrix that many of us accept (the one that Merv's vampires come from) which lacked the Oracle's system of control through free-will. Then the first 1999 Matrix with the Oracle's system of control in place.

Now we're at around 200-300 years from the victory of the machines. This is when the cycles of the One begin. There's some debate on whether or not the first integral anamoly followed the system of control known as "The Path of the One" or was free of it. I'm in the camp that feels that the Architect does not count the first 1999 Matrix in his versions. He says he counts the time between the emergence of each anamoly. This would mean that he begins counting after the emergence of the first anamoly (who was not controlled by the prophecy of the One and so was not a The One). Which means there have been 7 versions of the 1999 Matrix, and 6 versions featuring the Path of the One system of control.

So if there was a paradise Matrix that lasted a few years before it crashed, followed by a Dark Age Matrix which lasted a hundred years (maybe), followed by the first free-will Matrix which lasted a hundred years (again maybe), followed by the six cyclic One Matrixes (which each lasted a hundred years)... then the year is closer to 2999-3099.

Wow, that was a mouthful

Deeindamatrix wrote:

Quote: Even if he chose... 5-6 old people it wouldn't explain the large number in the movies Just an idea, what is to say 5th intergral A. didnt choose people who were pregnant with twins, triplets etc. That would speed up the process, not by much but would kick in later. Or mabye, going against my own opinion, the architect lied they could free up to 50 or something like that, that meaning the 23 people was just an ilusion.

The architect doesn't lie ... he's not human lol

I agree but some people believe he lied

Here we go again!

There's another thread for this whole Architect lying idea-

matrix-explained.com...

were not argueing i agree i was just think from another point of view

CaptPostMod wrote:

Neo1 wrote: a few of us here have come to the conclusion that each cycle of the matrix lasts 100 years. So in M1 it would becoming close to the end of the 600th year. If the cycles of the Matrix are 100 years or so, then the entire timeline since the machines were victorious would be closer to a millenium. There would be the first paradise failed Matrix (which may have lasted less than a hundred years, but still existed for a period of time). Then possibly the Dark Age re-write of the Matrix that many of us accept (the one that Merv's vampires come from) which lacked the Oracle's system of control through free-will. Then the first 1999 Matrix with the Oracle's system of control in place. Now we're at around 200-300 years from the victory of the machines. This is when the cycles of the One begin. There's some debate on whether or not the first integral anamoly followed the system of control known as "The Path of the One" or was free of it. I'm in the camp that feels that the Architect does not count the first 1999 Matrix in his versions. He says he counts the time between the emergence of each anamoly. This would mean that he begins counting after the emergence of the first anamoly (who was not controlled by the prophecy of the One and so was not a The One). Which means there have been 7 versions of the 1999 Matrix, and 6 versions featuring the Path of the One system of control. So if there was a paradise Matrix that lasted a few years before it crashed, followed by a Dark Age Matrix which lasted a hundred years (maybe), followed by the first free-will Matrix which lasted a hundred years (again maybe), followed by the six cyclic One Matrixes (which each lasted a hundred years)... then the year is closer to 2999-3099. Wow, that was a mouthful

you see it can work out. based on the 100 year principle