»Apocryphe vs Mobil_Ave_Neo«

so far all i have seen from mobil is mocking other people's opinions ("that other guy"). hello, i have a name, thank you. but he is right in one thing. it's all about assumptions here mostly as it is in all forums about the Matrix. but on the other hand knowing that should also keep mobil from just mocking other peoples arguments rather than think them over and maybe just accept them rather than trying to correct them with his assumptions. as for seraphs history i think his name along with the "wingless" comment clearly proves that he was some sort of angel in a previous Matrix. why i think it is the first Matrix is just because Smith as well as the Architect said the first Matrix was flawless, like paradies, which also had angels guarding it. why he worked for Merv (which he clearly has) is a mysterie to me too, but i think he had his reasons.

madmax_665, try to read my theory-thread.

See who's mocking then!

I am only mocking at newbies that don't make sense and add nothing new to the forum.

If someone impresses me, I am the first one to admit that I am indeed impressed.

And how can someone impress one who doesn't want to be impressed, like you?

i don't really think you are looking for people to impress you here but just for people to agree with you. and "if we are not one of you, we are one of them" and so you just start your put down way of commenting.

Nice job, i bet you already scared a lot of noobs away from this forum.

signing off

PS: your avatar is actually kinda ironic and made me laugh cause in Mobil Ave, Neo doesn't know a thing, yet you claim to have the answer to everything. Maybe you should become the Oracle

You know what this reminds me of, those movies with Christopher Walken as a fallen angel.

madmax_665 stop looking for falut were there is no fault there to find. Mobil ave neo is a good guy. me and him have had numorous conversations/topical debates on this forum. and if you say something sutpid like you have been doing, then of course he will say somthing. but if you have a good idea or post ideas on a topic that a worth reading then he will take notice.

it is a respect game give respect to earn respect.

Thanks for the support Neo1.

But it looks like he has already signed off

no problamo bro

No, madmax_665 is right, Mobil is going beyond the limits. As a moderator, he should give the example, he's mocking at people most of the time because they disagree with them.

I understand madmax_665 and his claim is rightfull to me, and this coming from another moderator.

Mobil, your behavior is not in the matrix spirit, and madmax_665 gave good arguments.

As Madmax said, you're keeping newcomers away with your comments.

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EDIT :

I talked with madmax and he confirmed that he decided not to come back on the forum mostly because of you, Mobil. Well done !

Here you go attacking me again, while you are a collegue moderator.

In the past you attacked me too. And then I asked, and also the forum user "intell" did, to deliver me the links to your so called ancient post where you claim I never answered you.

And what did you do? You never ever responded to it again.

I am not keeping newcomers away. I just critisize them if I think their ideas are not sane. It was madmax's choice to stay away. He is free to come here whenever he wants. He just has to bare my opinion when needed just as I have to bare his opinion. So I don't see the problem.

To proof that I am not against 'newcomers' at all, I will recommend two new moderators to Knn. It's time for some new good moderators on this block. I will suggest Neo1 and Deeindamatrix to Knn for the job.

Maybe you should suggest a guy like THE_FIRST_ONE who you really seem to symphatize

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

Here you go attacking me again, while you are a collegue moderator. In the past you attacked me too. And then I asked, and also the forum user "intell" did, to deliver me the links to your so called ancient post where you claim I never answered you. And what did you do? You never ever responded to it again. I am not keeping newcomers away. I just critisize them if I think their ideas are not sane. It was madmax's choice to stay away. He is free to come here whenever he wants. He just has to bare my opinion when needed just as I have to bare his opinion. So I don't see the problem. To proof that I am not against 'newcomers' at all, I will recommend two new moderators to Knn. It's time for some new good moderators on this block. I will suggest Neo1 and Deeindamatrix to Knn for the job. Maybe you should suggest a guy like THE_FIRST_ONE who you really seem to symphatize

You recommend people who most of the time agree with you and you're creating a merovingian-like network of friends here.

The newcomers have the right to be wrong or to disagree with you, but you must express your opinion politly, is that so hard to understand ?

Respect is a virtue you lack and I noticed that for a long time now.

Hmm

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You recommend people who most of the time agree with you and you're creating a merovingian-like network of friends here.

Clever move!

Who ARE the mods now and what happened to Akshat Gupta? Is he still around?

Apocryphe wrote:

You recommend people who most of the time agree with you and you're creating a merovingian-like network of friends here. The newcomers have the right to be wrong or to disagree with you, but you must express your opinion politly, is that so hard to understand ? Respect is a virtue you lack and I noticed that for a long time now.

i call dibs on being one of the silver twins

im the other one!

That's ok. I'll be the TrainMan and control the flow of information muahahaha!

Apocryphe wrote:

You recommend people who most of the time agree with you and you're creating a merovingian-like network of friends here.

So what...I have power here...more than you! Nah nah nah nah!

But...

I don't abuse this power. I choose these guys because they are sane in their way of discussing. They never get personal like you do.

Wasn't it you who declared my thoughts about "machines do never lie" insane and stupid? And you dare say to me that I get personal with newbies? Come on!

And again you viciously avoid to deliver the proof from the so called ancient discussions I had with you. Come on, be a man and deliver the links.

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The newcomers have the right to be wrong or to disagree with you, but you must express your opinion politly, is that so hard to understand ?

As far as I know I never really shout at people. My opinion can be blunt sometimes yes, but that's me. If you deserve credit, I will also give it to you directly.

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Respect is a virtue you lack and I noticed that for a long time now.

You are hardly ever here. So do more research before you say such things.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

So what...I have power here...more than you! Nah nah nah nah!

You can't do anything to me, just wasting your time here and writting nonsense that looks more credible because you have 3 pets following you in your nonsense.
Truth is not about how many believe you, it's about facts.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

I don't abuse this power. I choose these guys because they are sane in their way of discussing. They never get personal like you do.

You insulted me of being racist because I dared to use french words on my personal MSN (wich is none of your business), then said you hate all the guys speaking french and then you blocked me on msn (how mature)
Ok, you're not personal at all Mobil, you're just a pathetic hypocrite.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

Wasn't it you who declared my thoughts about "machines do never lie" insane and stupid? And you dare say to me that I get personal with newbies? Come on!

You did the same several times to me and other people, I did that to treat you the same way you treat the others. And I specified that, and yet you come back here pretending you don't know that.
Again, an hypocrite.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

And again you viciously avoid to deliver the proof from the so called ancient discussions I had with you. Come on, be a man and deliver the links.

You have not answered my posts, you said you don't want to talk with me again. Again an hypocrite.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

As far as I know I never really shout at people. My opinion can be blunt sometimes yes, but that's me. If you deserve credit, I will also give it to you directly.

You are harsh, often impolite and use a ton that is belittling people, and then 3 of your little pets starving for becoming a moderator here, come and agree on whatever you say. This topic a proof that what I say it true.

Mobil_Ave_Neo wrote:

You are hardly ever here. So do more research before you say such things.

The fact that I don't post does not mean that I don't read.
I have read like 3 posts in 2 days calling you arrogant. You know you are0

You really need to question yourself, this forum is driving you crazy man, that's just a forum and you're just a small moderator like me. All I'm telling you, is to be more polite with people or else the only guys coming here soon, will be the moderators... and if it comes to that, I prefere to leave then.

Apocryphe wrote:

You insulted me of being racist because I dared to use french words on my personal MSN (wich is none of your business), then said you hate all the guys speaking french and then you blocked me on msn (how mature) Ok, you're not personal at all Mobil, you're just a pathetic hypocrite.

No not a racist, I was just complaining that I couln't understand the words. My french is very bad; I cannot read or write it at all (you see I am not arrogant, I do admit that I am not good in certain things).

But I already was guessing that this is about me dumping you on the chat.

You are heart-broken that I rejected you on MSN.

Yes I dumped you! Get over it sissy boy (ahum, to my opinion offcourse, let's stay polite!)

Apocryphe wrote:

then 3 of your little pets starving for becoming a moderator here, come and agree on whatever you say

I dont come on this site just to be a moderator, one as soon as I found out the admin was gone why would i stay? and two I thought moderation only went to people worthy of it.

You both realize you're both respectively right, because you're standing on the same defensive ground. It's time to get over it -- neither of you will ever stop the other from retorting, and neither will ever win. It gives us all a moderate laugh to read your bantering, but there comes a point where you should get over it. There are more interesting topics worth discussing.

The latest idea here behind Trin's name is interesting. Makes me wish I knew more Buddhist philosophy.

Funny that all this should happen on a Seraph thread. "You do not truly know someone until you fight them."

edit: Boy does this post not make sense now that all these posts have been moved to a new thread!

You know you guys are right...

This fighting will get us nowhere.

Apocryphe, now that we have both uttered our 'frustrations' against each other, I think it's time to burry the hatchett.

This situation is nowhere near productive for the forum.

You have made your point. You don't like the way I communicate and I don't like the way you communicate. Well, I can live with that, can you?

I am not going to apolagies to some of the newbies I might have insulted. There are also alot of newbies which I warmly welcomed to the forum and...no!...they did not first had to agree with me before I loved them

But, offcourse, this remains a free forum, also for the moderators. So you defended the newbies, good for you! Point taken. Shall we get back to bussiness now?

Only some of your theories I don't like. You also have brilliant theories out there, like the theory that all the programs use human brains to run on. I have some (personal) doubts with this theory, but the fact remains that your suggestion is a good one!
And please do not talk too much about facts. I mean, there are facts within the trilogy but alot is tied to assumptions and believes. We need to respect that from each other.

Peace?

Apocryphe wrote:

then 3 of your little pets starving for becoming a moderator here, come and agree on whatever you say

if i do or i dont (and i know your talking about me), i would have earned it not given it.

I have been seeing more personal arguments on these threads, Instead of Agreeing to Disagree. Pride is a Powerful tool of Destruction, were way off topic here.

The way I see the Trilogy in my own opinion is, most of every Symbol, reference, and meaning is left open for your own Interpetation.

( I need to buy " The Matrix Online " )

I don't see the relation between my theories and the fact that you (Mobil) make the newbies go away.

Also, I'm tired of the way you keep twisting the truth, "you didn't dump me, I dumped you first nanana"... pffff, seriously, I have no time for that. You are a big hypocrite racist and I don't care about your childish behavior, I care about respecting people's opinion here, no matter how you try to make it look otherwise.

As for the moderators who says they deserved it, I remind to everyone that Aksha and the other one idiot (forgot his name) were moderators, and yet they were deleting posts of people proving them wrong, insulting anyone who would not lick their boots. Worst mods I have ever seen.

I can perfectly live with your two-faced personality Mobil, just don't wonder why people call you arrogant and why they go away and why we get less and less people.