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[before Revolutions] More Matrix theories, More Matrix explanations [closed]

 

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OK, AGES ago I was reading a comic on the official site and something bugged me about it.
It was about a guy who was on a train and then he left the matrix to find someone talking to him about the system going down with a few pods and maintenace had to occur. And then he was put back in and his life went on. And then, something like 10 years later he came out for no apparent reason and some one (a machine) said something like: 'oh, you're that guy who we saw a few minutes ago'. So, does that mean that Matrix time is faster than real time? If so, the whole thing doesn't make sense. How could you control your movements if you where doing it from a time that was slower? And how could the operators track the people on the monitors, and how could the code be read, it would be moving x10000 faster than you could read.
If anyone else had read this, it would be good. But please try and find it.
This was about a year ago, but i've just ignored it as an unofficial work, but it is aproved by larry and andy.
oh, i've just found what it was called
Goliath by Neil Gaiman
Go have a look

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whatisthematrix.warnerbros.com...

is the link
also, it says at the start 1977
this means that, unlike an earlier post, the matrix time wasn't always 199_.
But, my argument is that if the matrix 're-loadeds' because of the anomolies then mabey the loop goes from, lets say, 1960 to 2000 (when the Matrix trilogy is set) where upon an anomoly gets through and resets the matrix. This fits in well, 40 seems to be a reocuring theme and 40 years for every revolution. AND Neo gets through in the same year as when the loop should end.

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that dude is a genius. seriously.

But I dont sit idly by, I'm planning a big surprise, I'm gonna fight for what I want to be
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Please read:

matrix-exoplained.com...

-> "counter-argument for the ever-cycle"

in-my-opinion.org...

ebooks-download.com...
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if you have yet to already, you should read my post on this topic in the
Timeline thread...
[url]http://matrix-explained.com/php/viewtopic.php?p=1056#1056
[/url]

nobody has replied to my post on this subject but you should read it

it has to do with time inside the matrix, time in dreaming, a possible timeline of the matrix and neo or the one's timeline

i haven't read it in a while but i think that most everything is covered in that post

and maybe someone will reply or i should put it as a new topic


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matrix-explained.com...

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but if that comic is real, it is the final proof of the matrix-within-a-matrix Zion theory.
if time runs at different speeds, then how could the operators track people and stuff. So, it must be that Zion/realworld time runs at the same speed as Matrix time, so ZION MUST BE A COMPUTER SYSTEM IN SYNC WITH THE MATRIX!! Can anyone but me see this?
also, my 40 year cycle thing makes sense because they had phones in the sixties and I bet people would actually believe back then.

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no, you are wrong. zion runs in real time, actual 24 hours day = 24 hours day

nobody said there were rebels inside the matrix at that time, if there were, they either: a) got to an exit; b) lived 10 years inside the matrix because their operator could not find them and only 15 or 30 minutes went by to the operator

they had phones before the 60s

have you ever played the game on the pc The Sims?
think of it in these terms. you have a family and you play the sims, there are 3 modes of time: normal, double speed and really fast.
you are sitting there eating a sandwich watching your sims run around and do stuff and go to work and sleep, you have set the time on the fastest possible. a whole week goes by inside the sims and you finish your sandwich and put the game on normal speed. 10 minutes may have went by for you but an entire week for your sims. you lost no time, you did not age a week, did you?

the operator would see things going really fast just like you see the sims going really fast. he may get a bunch of calls in a half hour

after the machines fix their problem with the matrix in the real world, they can go back to 1970 or whatever year it was and put everybody pack 'in time' as it were to where they were 8 or 11 or whatever, in the real world they only aged an half hour, their memories were either wiped clean or they will go through life feeling as if they had already lived that part of their life before but only in a half remembered dream state... have you ever felt that you have lived a part of your life before?

how do you know that we, now, are not running in an accelerated rate?

this does not prove a matrix within a matrix, on the contrary, it adds more to the fact that zion is in the real world

the machines above zion on the surface of the earth run at the same time that zion does, do you honestly think they would say "only 30 minutes has gone by, but you have lived for 10 years" and have all zionites live for ten years too?

you may need time to think over this, in order to assimilate these postulates if you have never played the sims and are not familiar with time differentials, i am sure that another allegory could be made apparent to you



to bake your noodle even further, zion may indeed be an illusion, but of an completely different nature than the matrix, while zion may be an illusion it most definately is not a computer 'dreamworld' such as the matrix is. but do not worry over these things.

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I see what you are saying but...
if you physically control yourself from the real world and when you die in the matrix you die in the real world then if you died and you where in a ship (and there was accelarated time) then you would look like you died REALLY fast. And also, because you are controlled by your brain in the matrix, your brain would have to process things at colossal speeds which I don't think could be actually possible (i don't know, so please tell me if I am wrong).

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you use your mind in the matrix, not your brain, the brain can be considered the 'cpu' of the 'computer' human body. the user is you, your mind.

no, it would not look like a case of drinking from the wrong grail vis-a-vis Indiana Jones and the Last Crusade

you would die as you would normally die, but living inside the matrix for 10 years while only 30 minutes is actually taking place would be a real test of somebodies abilities. you would have to live and hide and do stuff inside the matrix for what seems to you 10 years, because you have lost your 'link' to the real world

the mind can process things at a very extreme rate, do not underestimate your mind. you may be thinking and typing down what you are thinking and you are able to type at say, 100 words a minute. but your mind is processing your current thread of thought at a much faster rate at which you type, so your physical body cannot keep up with your mind.
and as i hear it, the inventor of the keyboard did not arrange the keys for maximum proficiency which he said, i do not know in what way they may be arranged in order for you to be able to type faster than your top speed, but it would be damn cool to do it, unless you were an android vis-a-vis Ghost in the Shell with multiple 'fingers' popping out of the ends of your fingers and you are able to type extremely fucking fast, in which case, i am sure they would win in a typing contest

there is more interesting things to think about with this 'time' topic than the death of a character trapped inside the matrix. do you think he would be persued for 10 years by agents or would the agents be preoccupied with the war with the 'aliens' from space
i would like to know who the aliens are

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architect talks so damn swell...


another change??!!?? the architect of this site must be busy or something

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