»The secret name of neo..«

i believe very strongly that i have solved the mystery surrounding neos middle name initial..

it is no longer just Thomas A Anderson

I have worked it out to be Thomas Antonio Anderson

you will see the true meaning within the name that i present before you..

Now if you take the first and last letter from each of neos 3 names that i have stated, then you will gain this insight.

T for thomas then S for the last letter of thomas
then A for the first letter of antonio then o for the last letter of antonio. and so on.

you will get

t S a O a N

the word SON is formed within his name, for son of man..

also thomas has 6 letters followed by antonio which has 7 letters. followed by anderson which has 8 letters..

there is a sequence at work here..

so if you put this name together to make sense of it..

you will get.

twin, worthy of praise, son of man.

sounds very much like jesus huh?

as antonio means worthy of praise..

what are your thoughts?

thankyou

if you add those 3 numbers together that i gave you my above post.. 6 7 and 8 you will get 21

2+1 = 3

3 for the holy trinity

neos full name is also a trinity of words

also.. antonio ends with nio.. kind of like neo.

nio might mean new 1 forever

Unique observations, FIRST_ONE. You seem interested in numerology. Have you ever heard of theomatics? You should check out the website of one of the main proponents of this method:

i did have a quick look at that site feralboy. and i found that i dont agree with his methods..
but thanks for the insight..

i have actually figured something new out now..

it has to do with the name Antonio

as you may see the 3rd letter of this name looks like a cross
i believe that this states that neo is the trinity...

any thoughts?

This guy is ripe for the looney bin.

I mean, I am not against numerology, but stating that his middle name is Antonio just to suit your theory is truly gay.

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I didn't even have the strenght the finish reading your post.

I guess I am the One and THE_FIRST_ONE is the Anti One, assimilating you all.

The forum is heading towards a crash

It's time to refresh the looney bin!

Oh Great Architect where are Thou?

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THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

i believe very strongly that i have solved the mystery surrounding neos middle name initial.. it is no longer just Thomas A Anderson I have worked it out to be Thomas Antonio Anderson you will see the true meaning within the name that i present before you.. Now if you take the first and last letter from each of neos 3 names that i have stated, then you will gain this insight. T for thomas then S for the last letter of thomas then A for the first letter of antonio then o for the last letter of antonio. and so on. you will get t S a O a N the word SON is formed within his name, for son of man.. also thomas has 6 letters followed by antonio which has 7 letters. followed by anderson which has 8 letters.. there is a sequence at work here.. so if you put this name together to make sense of it.. you will get. twin, worthy of praise, son of man. sounds very much like jesus huh? as antonio means worthy of praise.. what are your thoughts? thankyou

You are ment for one thing... deletion

it seems that you fellas must be on some form of hullicinagenic drug..

mobil just because i can prove facts about something does not make me delusional. i also present them in a manner which dictates how they work

and who are you anyway?

all i hear from you is just some made up story you seem to think makes sense..

and i would also like to hear about your anti one theory that you just stated on the above post..

because it is actually the most intelligent thing i have ever heard you say

i dont get why people just dont understand..

I know 110% that neos middle name is antonio..

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

and who are you anyway?

I am a very frequent, mostly quality poster. I was made moderator in a very early stage because the administrator and some other fine people thought that my post were/are of high quality.

I have been around here since february 2004 and already then I had 'my Anti One theory' (almost sounds like one of those lame standard microsoft-folders).

This theory was hated by alot of people and that indicates to me that this theory might be indeed good, because denial is the most pertinant of all human responses!

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all i hear from you is just some made up story you seem to think makes sense..

My Anti One theory is not a fact, but the arguments I give are sane and logic. And that's where we differ from each other.

I also could believe that the Anti One just appeared in this sixth cycle, because there are logical arguments for this too.

The point is, that for me personally, there are more arguments which say that the Anti One happens each cycle than that there are arguments which say that he does not!

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and i would also like to hear about your anti one theory that you just stated on the above post..

Do a good search instead of wasting all that energy on typing bullshit!

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

i believe very strongly that i have solved the mystery surrounding neos middle name initial.. it is no longer just Thomas A Anderson I have worked it out to be Thomas Antonio Anderson you will see the true meaning within the name that i present before you.. Now if you take the first and last letter from each of neos 3 names that i have stated, then you will gain this insight. T for thomas then S for the last letter of thomas then A for the first letter of antonio then o for the last letter of antonio. and so on. you will get t S a O a N the word SON is formed within his name, for son of man.. also thomas has 6 letters followed by antonio which has 7 letters. followed by anderson which has 8 letters.. there is a sequence at work here.. so if you put this name together to make sense of it.. you will get. twin, worthy of praise, son of man. sounds very much like jesus huh? as antonio means worthy of praise.. what are your thoughts? thankyou

Your mind must be a glorious place to walk around in indeed. I shall have to visit someday.

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@THE_FIRST_ONE: You did not prove anything here. You base your theory on assuptions, just like we all do. And like most of us, you believe in your own theories.

I respect the work you did and the explanation you provide. it's really a nice idea you have here. But that does not prove anything and noone is ignorant or sth. just because he/she does not believe what you believe. So don't be unhappy about that. Why is it bothering you so much that not everyone agrees? Don't be too tense...

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Mobil_Ave_Neo can come off a bit authoritarian in his posts at times. But the difference between his posts and yours is that even when he wants to take us way out into totall speculation, he does so with a grounding in the films and the discussions. I don't always agree with his opinions, but I rarely feel completely unable to understand the context in which he is speculating.

Thanks CaptPostMod!

Authoritive? well, I have some dominant character traits, but if someone kicks away my arguments with stunning good counter arguments, I would be the first to admit it.

I just critisize people who come walk in here with theories that make no sense and are highly assumptive and then refuse to swallow any counter arguments.

Agreed.

But the "anti-One"? Please!

What?

An "anti-One" in each cycle. You know, the thing that is not even hinted upon. This is part of the Path of Neo, not the Path of the One (Prime Program). The Smith had started his own Path, anyway.

Highly assumptive!

The path of the One is not the prime program, it is a result of the prime program running.

I have good arguments for the Anti One being there each cycle...

In short:

-Every main agent of a threesome seems to take things personally and is quickly frustrated which makes him suited to be the Anti One. The reason why he takes things personally is because he is the leader and the leader carries the responsibility in the battle against the anomaly/anomalies.

-It's a very natural thing in the equation: the 1% versus the 99% battling it out. It's the equation trying to balance itself out.

-Agents have been fighting the systemic anomaly all of their lives. So it's a natural thing that the most driven agent of them all will take on the emerged super anomaly.

-It's the coming crash in a controlled embodyment. The anomaly has been transformed into a variable and it has a purpose.

-Every human and I mean every human has a darker side or ego side. You can either close your eyes for this side and suprress it --> reloading to a new cycle. Or you can face your darker side --> super burly brawl!

-Why isn't the Architect worried about Smith? Why would he 'promise' Neo that a new cycle and a new Zion will begin when he chooses to return to the Source? This indicates to me that the Anti One is not a rare occasion and that the reload will neutralize the Anti One.

The Architect knew that the Anti One was dangerous: "you played a very dangerous game", so this indicates that the Anti One is part of the meisure of control which the Architect was never able to look past.

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-Every human and I mean every human has a darker side or ego side. You can either close your eyes for this side and suprress it --> reloading to a new cycle. Or you can face your darker side --> super burly brawl!

You got that from the Matrix or Star Wars? And you say my words are "highly assumptive".

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-Every main agent of a threesome seems to take things personally and is quickly frustrated which makes him suited to be the Anti One. The reason why he takes things personally is because he is the leader and the leader carries the responsibility in the battle against the anomaly/anomalies.

Now, that is a stretch.

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-It's a very natural thing in the equation: the 1% versus the 99% battling it out. It's the equation trying to balance itself out.

What equation are you talking about?

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So it's a natural thing that the most driven agent of them all will take on the emerged super anomaly.

What made him "super"? And what assumptions are you making about what purpose the Smith serves?

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This indicates to me that the Anti One is not a rare occasion and that the reload will neutralize the Anti One.

This answer doesn't take into consideration what Smith thinks he's doing. He says, "Well, not exactly."

And last but not least, whose Purpose do you think an "Anti-One" serves? Re-explain the trilogy, will ya.

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You got that from the Matrix or Star Wars? And you say my words are "highly assumptive".

I got that from general philosophy and more specificly from the esoteric teachings, which are highly present in the movies. In the satori-thing the Wachowski brothers suggest indeed that Smith is the ego-side of Neo.

It's the side in us that wants to rationally define the world as without purpose so that we can party ourselfs into damnation.

Neo chooses for his ego. He is so much in love that he prefers his individual need for his connection with Trinity above the entire human race.

Neo already made the choice. That's why he said to the Oracle that he can't and won't make the decision about if Trinity lives or dies. In other words: the chemical substances in Neo's body/mind are still in control of Neo. Neo chooses for Trinity, Neo chooses for his material need, Neo chooses for his ego --> Smith grows exponantial from that point on.

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Quote: -Every main agent of a threesome seems to take things personally and is quickly frustrated which makes him suited to be the Anti One. The reason why he takes things personally is because he is the leader and the leader carries the responsibility in the battle against the anomaly/anomalies. Now, that is a stretch.

Why? The Wachowski's are very precise in the actors they pick and how the actors should do a scene.

It's for a fact that the new middle agent from the upgraded bunch is the only one with frustrated and sadistical facial expressions.

Just look at him at the scene when the trucks are going to collide. His face utters joy and sadism to the coming event, while the other agent just looks neutral like Jones and Brown always did in M1.

Add to this that there was a new sadistical agent introduced in the game "Path of Neo", who seems to be a vague replacement for Smith until the upgraded bunch arrives and then I really think that they are trying to tell us something.

I agree with you that my argument could still be seen as assumptive, but it's hardly a stretch. Just good observation.

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What equation are you talking about?

Well this argument is a fact because the Oracle tells us this exactly.

I am not a mathematician but I see the equation like this...

The main equation is linked to the prime program. 99% of the people want to accept all the rules of the Matrix; they want to move on with their lives. But the equation is stuck; there is no harmony. 1% of the participants is blocking progress because they form a remainder in the equation.

Now because this 1% (now in the ultimate sum as Neo) has spiritually freed their minds, they are much more powerfull than the 'mechanical' ignorant 99%-bunch.

While Neo is powerfull because he has enlightened himself, Smith is only powerfull because he drains energy from blue pills and other programs.

So this makes them an equal opposite in the equation.

Neo is the ultimate expression of the remainder.

Smith is the ultimate expression of the 99% blue pills wanting this remainder to vanish.

There is no 'winning' situation for Neo/the One/the remainder. The remainder must either be resolved (which Neo did) or the prime program must be 'refreshed' by the surrender of the remainder itself.

If one of these options do not happen, then the remainder stays present and the Matrix will be crashed.

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Quote: So it's a natural thing that the most driven agent of them all will take on the emerged super anomaly. What made him "super"? And what assumptions are you making about what purpose the Smith serves?

With the super anomaly I did not mean Smith but the emergence of Neo.

agents <---> systemic anomaly

sum of the systemic anomaly = integral anomaly

most dedicated agent <----> integral anomaly

Smith's purpose is to make life end.

If the One does not comply to the reload, then the Matrix no longer has a rational relationship with the connected humanity and Smith will 'rationally' slaughter the entire Matrix.

If the One does comply to the reload then the resistance dies off and both the Matrix and the resistance start a new life/loop. Before a rebirth, there must be a death. So the Anti One is 'forcing' the One to choose for a reload.

So Smith's purpose is to make the life of the resistance end or the life of the entire human race. In both cases: human life.

That's why Smith says:

"We're here because of you, Mister Anderson, we're here to take from you what you tried to take from us. Purpose."

He is saying that he wants to get rid of the resistance. He wants to get rid of the remainder. Why does he say 'us', while he is still one personality? I think he is (subconsiously) speaking for all the blue pills that want to move on and get rid of the anomaly.

This links up with the words from Morpheus in M1; that the blue pills would be willing to fight and even die for the Matrix.

I am not sure if Smith does have specifically super powers. When he was a normal agent he did the same thing as he does now: using blue pills by moving his code inside of their shell.

The only difference is now that he does it in multiple form. At first he was restricted by a network protocol. He could only move in and out of software that was hardwired to the integral blue-pill-network. It is obvious that he now set himself loose from this network protocol and with a little twist he can easily copy his code instead of moving it (in fact it is almost the same process).

So in short:

His copying is not really special. The only really special thing is that Smith set himself free from the system/network protocol he was attached to and he did this with the help of Neo.

Smith's real special powers come only later when he assimilates more and more humans and programs.

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This answer doesn't take into consideration what Smith thinks he's doing. He says, "Well, not exactly."

Yes I have been breaking my brains on that one for a long time. You can find alot about it on the forum if you would do a search

Anyway, I think now that he is just referring to the fight --> "That (fight) went as expected?"

"It's happening exactly like before (Neo beating the crap out of the authorities without getting a scratch)"

"Well, not exactly (because I am going to copy myself and get him this time)"

Why else did Smith observe first and let the normal agents fight Neo? If he knew exactly what might have happened compared to the previous cycle, wouldn't he have attacked Neo personally?

It cannot even be that Smith knows about the previous cycle(s), because then he wouldn't chase the Zion access codes like crazy. Because the Zion access codes are an illusion to keep him busy.

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And last but not least, whose Purpose do you think an "Anti-One" serves? Re-explain the trilogy, will ya.

Philosophically he is serving a purpose for Neo. He is crucial in Neo's path of "Know Thyself". That's the Oracle's implementation of the Prophecy.

Technically he is serving a purpose for the meisure of control: making the One choose a reload. At least that's the Architect implementation of the Prophecy. He thinks it's unfailable, unless the One is an anomaly in an anomaly

yes i do understand where you guys are coming from.
and i can see all your sides of the story..

i know that most peoples theories on the matrix do make a lot of sense..
but if you took a bit of time and listen to what i say. then you will see that i make a lot of sense too.

yes i have been where you guys are at with your theories.
yes i do understand the cycles.
yes i do understand smiths relationship with neo.
yes i do understand the purpose of each character.

but not to be overbearing here, i am way ahead of you in regards to the secrets of the matrix..

this might sound crazy, but i do know how the symbols and the coding works.

i know that i seem very idiotic when i go against the finalised story of the trilogy. but i am on here to help you guys figure out the puzzle..

as i do hate seeing people taken in by the games that these movies play. i am simply trying to open your minds a little more.

there is more to the matrix than people think. and i believe that if you are on a matrix forum you would want to know more about the truth to it..

i will let you in on a secret..

the wachowskis are either lying about the way you should take the matrix. or they have no idea of it at all.

as i can explain the depth of all of what i say. somebody is not telling the entire truth..

now mobil i know that you make total sense..
but it is only to a shallow degree. and i am in no way attacking your intelligence with that statement.

i am also not trying to destroy the whole matrix experience. i am only trying to get you to see what is going on within it.

i have always known that i would come up against some opposition on this forum. and i am not here for a popularity contest..

it may seem that i have no idea about the matrix, but believe me when i say that i totally understand it..

now with the secret name of neo i have used code to to decipher it.. i just didnt make it up and suit it to what i wanted it to be.

i did research and math to get to that conclusion..
i have also found another symbol within the name that will solidify my idea.

also antonio can mean another thing..

the last 5 letters in antonio if read backwards you will get

oinot

it is my theory that the i in this word can mean 1

so what you get is

01 NOT

thankyou for reading

THE_FIRST_ONE wrote:

but not to be overbearing here, i am way ahead of you in regards to the secrets of the matrix..

Jezus, not that's the ultimate expression of arrogance. Arrogance that is based on nothing but air.

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this might sound crazy, but i do know how the symbols and the coding works.

LOL do you realize how stupid you make yourself sound?

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i know that i seem very idiotic when i go against the finalised story of the trilogy. but i am on here to help you guys figure out the puzzle..

What if we don't need your help? Maybe we are your subjective blue pills and we don't want to be saved by you. You have to respect that!

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the wachowskis are either lying about the way you should take the matrix. or they have no idea of it at all.

The Wachowski's never said us how we should take the Matrix. We have to make up our own damn minds on that.

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now mobil i know that you make total sense.. but it is only to a shallow degree. and i am in no way attacking your intelligence with that statement.

Hmm first you say I make up stories and now you say I am intelligent. What's it gonna be? The problem is choice!

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i have always known that i would come up against some opposition on this forum. and i am not here for a popularity contest..

Apparently you are contesting, because you post the same shit over and over again like a damn commercial. If you are so sure about yourself, you would only post it once.

You know -hint hint-, spam is not allowed on this forum!

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it may seem that i have no idea about the matrix, but believe me when i say that i totally understand it..

You have been listening to Morpheus too much?

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also antonio can mean another thing.. the last 5 letters in antonio if read backwards you will get oinot it is my theory that the i in this word can mean 1 so what you get is 01 NOT

There a good medicines out there! Try contacting a docter sometime, it's for our benefit

your'e a smart guy mobil.

but if you dont like it, dont look or respond to it.

an idea mobil.

if you know so much about the matrix..why is this forum called the what it is?