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Don't want to get off topic too much, but I just wanted to interject on the subject of Trinity and Neo's state of mind at death.

Although I do agree with Mobil's theories regarding Neo's materialistic attachment to Trinity, there is something else I would like to comment on.

In another thread (I believe it was the "God! God! God!" thread), Mobil_Ave_Neo said something to the effect that we, ourselves, are God.

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"The point is that you are god yourself. You make your own choices that affect other people and other people make choices that affect you. So we are all god."


This is not to be taken as an egotistical statement. Rather, what Mobil was saying was that the idea of God is perpectival in nature. What a God is and how a God affects our lives is consequentially connected to what we believe a God to be, personally.

I had theorized with Tozy the possibility of Trinity being, in some ways, Neo's idea or archetype for God. Neo himself doesn't seem to be very religious. Actually, he's very much the scientist...always rational and questioning his every move (until, of course, he finally believes in and knows himself).

In the back of my mind, I had always felt Trinity might be some sort of divine figure in Neo's eyes. First of all, there's the name. Second, she brings him back from the dead in M1.

In M2, he puts his faith in her, saving her life at the possible cost of sacrificing the world.

There is also the sex scene and location of said sex scene (in conjunction with the Zion rave). That pretty much explains that.

However, the biggest kicker for me, personally, is Trinity's death in M3. Neo must continue his journey to enlightenment without attachments. This isn't just material attachments, but ideas, or figures, of faith. Anything which would hold or influence Neo's ability to act by will alone (and to finally know himself) had to be sacrificed. I always compared this to Jesus, while on the cross, asking God why he was being forsaken. Neo, on the other hand, tells Trinity that he cannot save Zion without her. He doesn't know what to do without her.

The final sacrifice, Neo's choice to die, must be done by oneself and without the aid of outside forces. So when Neo is copied by Smith, I do not feel it is because he has "nothing left to live for" or is "depressed and wants to die". When Smith copies over Neo, it is virtually Neo copying himself. As Brian Takle said in his Reloaded essay, Smith could be looked at as the splinter of Neo's mind, trying to truly know himself. And hearing Smith utter the Oracle's words gives Neo that "satori" moment, understanding the interconnectedness in both machine and man. In that moment, Neo understands himself, his choice, and ultimately his death.

So that's how I see things. Not disagreeing with anyone. Just throwing out my own ideas.


And in regards to the golden code (and to make myself feel better about completely going off-topic earlier Smile)....

Question regarding the golden code. It seems as if everything which is wired into the machine world comes up golden in the real world. As the script states, it's like being wired into a circuit board. I always found this interesting. Neo can see Smith, and yet in the Matrix Smith is green-coded. Yet, within the Matrix, Seraph has golden code! See where I'm getting at here? Seraph can exist within the Matrix (within the mind) as a golden-coded being. And yet Smith is depicted as two different codes in two different worlds. I just dont' get it.

In Ken Wilber's commentary, he says gold color is the color of Spirit, and yet Neo can only see the "spirit" of Smith, but not Trinity. Anyone find this odd? To this day, I haven't come up with a good explanation as to why which really satisfies me.

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I still see Seraph as a "source" powered program. Unlike Neo however, his power is regulated, Neo channels the source through thought. When you take his name, and his abilities, he is basically a fire wall, protecting God. Which most likely started with the archy, then Satan (the merv) became god for a short while, and then the Oracle became "that which matters most".

Oh, van exel, the spirit thing is a metaphor(although a broad one), you can't just apply it to everything and expect it to make sense. Personally, I thought it was the "connection" between Neo and Smith that was created when Neo destroyed Smith in matrix 1 that is probably most responsible for Neo seeing Smith in particular. He isn't gold like the machines, their is no code stuff, he is fire. I suppose he could be currupted spirit, but still, the source which represents spirit, only flows through machines, which is why trinity is not gold. Except for when Neo "sources" himself to death at the end of the films, then he turns gold too, and shoots white light out of his mouth... yea...

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