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V for Vendetta

vieome

be careful

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The big coperation have no time for the little guys...
There is a good article writing by Paul Graham which talks
about how much Ideas are worth... I think you should read
it.... I cant find the link but the one below will take you to it

catb.org...

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Deeindamatrix

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hmm didnt you post link before

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th3 p4th

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vieome wrote:

The big coperation have no time for the little guys...
There is a good article writing by Paul Graham which talks
about how much Ideas are worth... I think you should read
it.... I cant find the link but the one below will take you to it

catb.org...

I have read it a long time ago..

New Matrix Forum:

Code:

http://matrixfans2007.informe.com/

vieome

Re the link

I am starting to like this site
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okay I found the correct link

paulgraham.com...

Dee the article is really about computing, but I think the
advice is valuable for any line of work you hope to do.
Take whats there and translate it in terms of movies.

th3 p4th

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Deeindamatrix

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some more great pictures

th3 p4th

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Deeindamatrix wrote:

some more great pictures

Thank you! Cool

Inevitability

Remember the 5th November!

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Hey, you have to think that Revolutions was released worldwide on the 5th November. Knowing now what we do about the Wachowski’s previous interests/intentions regarding Guy Fawkes etc, it makes sense that their vision is more deeply ingrained and rooted to grow and have more significant effect than maybe yet perceived.

I had known back then the link to Guy Fawkes (5th Nov) intended in ‘Revolutions’ and have often since pondered upon the words on the back of the Rev DVD cover… "The Revolution has now become the Matrix revolutions".

Something of which is further mentioned and iterated in the Architects later announcements that Neo’s Anomalous Code inhabits Red Pill’s.

Role on the Vendetta!

It’s about time… I’ve had enough!

Mercy…

~not tonight~

th3 p4th

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psikeyhackr

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We need a computer virus to put parliament blowing up as wallpaper on every screen in England. Whitelaugh

psikey

ps - but not until November 5th.

Kill an economist for Karl

Neo1

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psikeyhackr wrote:

We need a computer virus to put parliament blowing up as wallpaper on every screen in England. Whitelaugh

psikey

ps - but not until November 5th.

that sounds good, but not just for england. we should do it for all parliments around the world.

"Too know the truth, you must first look past the lie."

Neo1

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Deeindamatrix wrote:

oh right - cheers!

Your welcome.

th3 p4th

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psikeyhackr wrote:

We need a computer virus to put parliament blowing up as wallpaper on every screen in England. Whitelaugh

psikey

ps - but not until November 5th.

LOL do you have the email adress of Trinity? I think she was quite good at hacking! Gumpred

Red Ghost

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Now some young kid sent me a message and I am offering
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message:

How about I give you the Vinger?

GhostTrax

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I though this was a rather interesting interpretation of the film -

wingtv.net...

V is of course a muti-layered film and, at one of the important levels, it has a historical story which most people do not know. Guy Fawkes was a Jesuit Roman/Vatican agent who, along with some other conspirators (in the true sense of the word), intended to blow up the English Parliament on its opening session (Nov. 5th), when the king would be present along with the rest of the members of parliament.

This is the famous Gundpowder Plot.

Fawkes was caught and executed. The intention of this plot was to bring England back into the fold of Rome, from which it had departed beginning with Henry VIII. This rift with Rome had grown greater under the reign of Elizabeth I--against whose life many attempts had been made by Jesuit/Roman agents. This continued under James I, who suceeded Elizabeth I in 1603, and was the king whose life had also been targeted by Fawkes and his associates.

In reality, Fawkes was anything but a victim: He had committed treason and suffered the consequences under English law. The movie paints his counterpart, V as a victim, which is not historically accurate regarding Fawkes.

But the real powerful symbolism in this movie is found in the two buildings that are blown up: the Old Bailey and the English Parliament. The Old Bailey represents conmon law, the very foundation of democracy and the freedoms that we enjoy today in western countries (especially those nations whose laws are based on English common law, i.e., England, Canada, the U.S., Australia and New Zealand in particular, but including as well all the commonwealth countries such as India).

Common law gave us two very important and foundational principles without which it is not possible to have a free society: 1) trial by jury; 2) innocent until proven guilty. The opposite of common law is canon law--the law of the Roman Catholic institution. This law is not religious but, rather, the constitution upon which all laws were formed in Catholic countries.

Under canon law no one except the pope has any rights, and this is as true today as it was in the middle ages. All rights are vested in the pope (more accurately in the men who control the office of the papacy), and it is the pope who distributes any and all rights as he pleases.

Thus under Canon law no one except the pope has any inherent rights. What Guy Fawkes had been contracted to do was to eliminate the protestant king and parliament thus paving the way for a Catholic, Rome-controlled monarch to be installed in the place of James I, thus replacing common law in England with canon law once again.

We are all too aware how fast our rights are eroding, and this movie sends the coded message (whether as a warning or a sign of the triumph of Rome) that common law has been blown away (the Old Bailey being blown up), exactly that which Guy Fawkes set out to do. And what will be left is canon law: all power and rights vested in a very few men who control government leaving the rest of us as serfs.

Even more troubling is the blowing up of the English Parliament, which brought us modern democracy and gave rights to common people, a concept that was pretty much unknown in the medieval world.

Three important freedoms that were granted to all people were freedom of the press; freedom of conscience; freedom of thought. Believe it or not, under canon law all three of these freedoms are anathemized, that is, they are cursed by canon law even today.

Yes, under canon law a man is not free to think for himself or to follow the dictates of his own conscience, but must bow to the will of the church. He is not free to think what is right or wrong, but must accept as right or wrong that which the church tells him is right or wrong.

Since England split from Rome in the 1500s, it has been the stated goal of Rome to bring England back to the fold. By blowing up her parliament, the most important symbol of freedom in the world (not the Statue of Liberty), the message is being conveyed that the experiment of parliamentary self-governance has come to an end.

It is important that, in the movie, this event takes place after Guy Fawkes dies. The message, however, is that what Guy Fawkes died for has at last been accomplished 400 years after his death. Rome never forgets and Rome at last has its vendetta.

More foreboding messages in the movie are the destruction of the United States (and Canada by extension) through biowarfare and civil war, both distinct possibilities as many researchers have warned us. The movie on the surface may seem to be promoting freedom in the face of totalitarianism, but its symbols foreshadow a completely totalitarian world that will be brought about through disease, warfare, and "natural" disasters.

To those who believe that Rome is ancient history, keep these facts in mind: for the past 1000-plus years, all secret societies have directly or indirectly originated from within the Roman Catholic church. The Knights Templar, from whom came the Knights of Malta and Knights of Columbus, are all Catholic; the Jesuits, the Priory of Sion and, in more modern times, Opus Dei have all had their genesis in the Roman religion.

Freemasons are also an offshoot of the Knights Templar and very much in bed with the Vatican. The CIA was originally formed mostly by Nazi Germans who escaped Europe on Vatican passports. From its very beginning, the CIA and all other secret agencies (which is a more accurate term than intelligence agencies) have been tied to the Vatican.

So is the Vatican a spent force?

Hardly. And it is my assessment that V might even stand for VATICAN and, on a deeper level, shows the triumph of Rome and Roman canon law. V truly foreshadows the coming dark ages: rampant disease, civil wars, rioting, curfews, govenment agents everywhere, listening in on us, watching us, instilling fear everywhere, exactly as it happened all over Europe for 600-plus years of The Inquistion.

The first Matrix was a very intelligent movie, more so than V in my opinion, but I believe both movies are agenda movies. They seem to promise hope and freedom, but if we dissect them, the message both these movies convey is the opposite of hope and freedom.

Major Hollywood motion pictures always have an agenda. Movies such as V show us the problem, then offer a solution which furthers the agenda of the very totalitarianism they supposedly oppose.

History repeats itself because people do not know real history. Guy Fawkes was an enemy of free thought, and he represented the most totalitarian form of government ever conceived by man.

By having people wearing Guy Fawkes masks at the end of the movie, the movie makers make a mockery out of history and present the enslavers as the emancipators.

"There are none so hopelessly enslaved as those who think that they are free."

I know many folks might disagree with my interpretation of this film, but from a historical point of view, I think my conclusions are correct. I used to be accused of being some right wing Protestant. I was born and raised in India as a Sikh. I have no affiliation with any organized religion, but I am an avid student of history and call it the way I see it and, historically speaking, Guy Fawkes was no friend of the people.

Those who give up their freedom for security will lose both and deserve neither...

7one

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demifey

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vieome wrote:

This was the subtle advertisment for V but given my affinety for disobiedence I had to put a spray can to work

Really? Oh, but look here: matrixcommunity.org... and here: matrixcommunity.org....

Why don't you try being original?

Red Ghost

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Dont hate the player
Hate the game...

demifey

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And you like playing games, don't you Red Ghost/Vieome/alyce/Clinton?

Just curious, have you told the fine people here the one about you being arrested and interrogated by the police, yet? And how you kept referring to the police as "Smith"? Don't hold back, people here might get a real chuckle out of it.

Or have you spammed this board the way you did Simulacra and Simulation?

For the record, I don't hate the game or the player. But what I do hate are low-lifes who steal other people's work and pretend it's their own, like you did with that 'Myth and Religion in the Matrix Trilogy' essay you posted in agame's 'is the matrix real' thread. That's pathetic.

Deeindamatrix

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Something i cant belive about V for Vendetta...it only made $69,739,359 at the box office

th3 p4th

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Deeindamatrix wrote:

Something i cant belive about V for Vendetta...it only made $69,739,359 at the box office

From wikipedia:

The Matrix earned $171 million in the USA and $460 million worldwide.

The Matrix Reloaded earned $281 million in the US and $735 million worldwide.

The Matrix Revolutions ultimately grossed $140 million at the US box office altogether and $456 million worldwide. This is roughly half of The Matrix Reloaded box-office total. The Matrix Revolutions did extremely well in DVD and VHS rentals and sales when it was released in April of 2004.

As of May 2006, V for Vendetta has grossed (USD) $69,563,652 in the United States and $57,800,000 elsewhere, for a worldwide gross of $127,363,652. The film led the United States box office on its opening day, taking in an estimated $8,350,000 and remained the number one film for the remainder of the weekend, taking in an estimated total of $25,642,340.

I thought that more people have seen it..

Deeindamatrix

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ok i retract my eariler statement

th3 p4th

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No, I agree with you! I also thought that it went better than nearly 70,000,000 $

djlartzu

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$$$$$$$$$$$ i guess its all about the $£

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djlartzu

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I dnt have the link but SEARCH ON GOOGLE for knox the matrix parody, neo says:

"eating money money money he gave me money money mon...." xD

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