»The Architect's Speech fully translated/explained«

And that's just programs. I wonder if some machines themselves would become exiles (ie. diggers, sentinels, collectors, etc.)

I wish RainKing and Inev were at this thread.

I know if i were RK, i'd be drowning in displeasure over there at MXO. I've been peaking in from time to time and though the community is still conversing, there's a severe lack of .... higher thought expenditures. Hell today, there was a thread looking to establish once and for all if there was a Matrix within a Matrix. That's sooooo.... ancient to some of us. That was buried with the freakig dinosaurs.

Wait, there's a Matrix within a Matrix? Like...the Real World isn't really real...not really? And like...Neo was able to stop the Sentinels because he's still in the Matrix? Man, this is all starting to make sense! I just love how I learn something worthwhile every time I come to these forums!

Loctavious wrote:

I know if i were RK, i'd be drowning in displeasure over there at MXO. I've been peaking in from time to time and though the community is still conversing, there's a severe lack of .... higher thought expenditures.

Haha! That's similar to what he said.

Well, machines are programs, programs inside a machine instead of inside 01 (the mainframe) or inside the matrix. Rama may after all be a program that spends some of his time in a machine form for all we know. Or at the very least directing machines. There is no where to go for a "machine" that has freed itself. Eventually you will run out of power, and that will be it. The matrix is the only place you can hide, the only place you can go if you want to exist outside of direct machine control. Plus I think that some of the more basic machines aren't really givin free will really at all. Just enough subroutines to do their jobs. You don't need sentinals to over think, you need them to work together however, that and take out who you tell them to take out. To free them would probably literally require some tampering with them physically... not unlike matriculated. Which by the way I still think was really cool, even though alot of people thought it sucked the most out of all the animatrix shorts.

Anyways, to sum it up, the difference between "machines" and "programs" isn't really a difference at all. The only real difference is all the hardware in a machine is in the machine itself, where as the program in the matrix is using resources of the matrix proper. Basically you'd have to trash the whole matrix if you wanted to be sure to get rid of all exiles. So they just do what they can with the agents.

Hmm... maybe if a machine took off with a few pods lol...

Just boosting this one upstairs again to promote my hard work

but you have forgotten the most important ingredient within this conversation.

you seem to have forgotten the fact that if you can make a fully functioning human being, you have indeed mastered everything there is to know about him.
you tend to forget that a human wouldnt be able to function if everything was not right.
that includes the mind.

you would have to understand the human mind in order to create and design a matrix for them.

if humans were missing 1% of what is them.
then they wouldnt be human.

i believe that your beloved architect is having a dig at us.

and about the thing that the 5 previous ones couldnt love.

if you cant love then you wouldnt even be alive if you were any sort of animal.
everybody can love.

what is the architect saying?
1.the ones are machines.
2.or the previous ones are freaks.

Hey man don't pollute my thread.

i dont mean you any disrespect mobil.

i dont want to fight on this site..

heres the deal..

i wont post on your threads
and may you not post on mine

i just hate seeing people on the wrong path..

the one thing that you need to know is..

i am not really fighting you.
you are fighting me

No I am not fighting you.

I am telling the truth.

You never ever seriously responded to my (counter) arguments, so in that way you are wasting your time with me and my threads.

But you got yourself a deal. Let's leave each other alone: live and let live, blue pill and red pill (which one you are is entirely subjective offcourse )

If you are a good believer, then you must know that if a person cannot be convinced of a believe, you have to leave him alone. Ignorant people are responsible for their own believes and their own lifes.

But thanks for your concern!

Good luck!

Just boosting this one upstairs again to promote my hard work

well why not? I did study this while writing the scene of the translator into my movie. Tis a good post

Why thank you.

It's great to know that I inspire other people

Probably used it wrong though as no one is reading it anymore...

PIECE 1
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Architect: I am the architect; I created the matrix. I've been waiting for you. You have many questions and though the process has altered your consciousness, you remain irrevocably human .
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INDICATION: Neo was and continues to be HUMAN. He is not part-machine or total-code, only, his “consciousness” is “altered”----but, he IS human, and irrevocably so!


PIECE 2
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Architect: The first matrix I designed was quite naturally perfect, it was a work of art, flawless, sublime, a triumph equaled only by its monumental failure. The inevitability of its doom is apparent to me now as a consequence of the imperfection inherent in every human being, thus I redesigned it, based on your history to more accurately reflect the varying grotesqueries of your nature. However, I was again frustrated by failure. I have since come to understand that the answer eluded me because it required a lesser mind, or perhaps, a mind less bound by the parameters of perfection. Thus the answer was stumbled upon by another. An intuitive program, initially created to investigate certain aspects of the human psyche. If I am the father of the matrix, she would undoubtedly be its mother.

Neo: The Oracle.

Architect: Please, as I was saying, she stumbled upon a solution, whereby nearly 99 percent of all test subjects accepted the program, as long as they were given a choice, even if they were only aware of the choice at a near unconscious level. While this answer functioned, it was obviously, fundamentally flawed, thus creating the otherwise contradictory systemic anomaly, that if left unchecked might threaten the system itself. Ergo, those that refused the program, while a minority if unchecked would constitute an escalading probability of disaster.
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Consider the above in conjunction with what the Architect said initially: “ You are the eventuality of an anomaly which despite my sincerest efforts, I have been unable to eliminate…”

Also, recall from M-1 what Smith told Morpheus: “Did you know that the first Matrix was designed to be a perfect human world. Where none suffered. Where everyone would be happy. It was a disaster. No one would accept the program. Entire crops were lost. Some believed that we lacked the programming language to describe your perfect world.”

INDICATIONS:

1. The first two versions of the matrix were “monumental failures.” However, in their failures, there was no role of the Oracle or of any anomaly. The “plugged” people (the initial “crops”) simply “rejected” the “perfection of no suffering”—all of them died or had to be killed…”entire crops were lost”

2. The Oracle was not active in the first two versions of the matrix. It was not until the third version that she became involved and proposed an “almost perfect solution” where “99%” of all people tested “accepted” the matrix program. Though the Oracle’s solution helped avoid the “mass rejection” by the “plugged/grown humans” (“crops”) that happened in the first two versions, the solution was “fundamentally flawed” and this “flaw” or “anomaly” resulted in a “minority” of the crops (plugged and cultivated humans) continuing to reject the matrix program. This also means that NEO or THE ONE or THE ANOMALY appeared for the first time in the third version of the matrix.

CHEAT NOTE: Recall the Architect’s dialog: ” The matrix is older than you know. I prefer to count from the emergence of one integral anomaly to emergence of the next, in which case, this is the 6th version.” <-- Clearly, the architect prefers to count the versions from since when Neo or the anomaly appeared the first time---this is not a count of the actual version (which is more likely the 8th) but the number of times the anomaly has appeared (6th).


PIECE 3
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Architect: …The function of the One is now to return to the source allowing a temporary dissemination of the code you carry, reinserting the prime program, after which you will be required to select from the matrix 23 individuals, 16 female, 7 male to rebuild Zion…”
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INDICATION: The third version onwards (the same as the “first version featuring an anomaly”), the source code of the matrix is appended with the code carried by THE ONE, and this cumulative new source code is recompiled and run again---resulting in probably a more stable matrix. During such a process, the crops (plugged humans) do not get killed, only that 23 of these plugged humans are chosen for rebuilding Zion.

Why the recompilation?

There are two strong possibilities:

1. It could be that because the architect has not been able to get rid of the anomaly that is part-and-parcel of the Oracle’s solution, he prefers to simply get rid of the running “object” code (by guiding the One back to the source) at the time he feels the “minority” population rejecting the matrix is growing strong in numbers … and, after the recompilation of the source, things calm down in the matrix, the rebellion dies down till it starts again (when again the architect “guides” the One to the source for yet another new “run” of the program).

OR

2. It could be that the One keeps bringing “feedback” in codelet-form to the source that must be appended to the source and the source compiled and run again… a process of upgrading in an effort to eventually rid the system of the anomaly---in an effort to create a matrix that no plugged human would ever reject---all crop would be totally productive.


Also, after every recompilation of the source, the matrix program “blossoms” the same way, because, other than the small “upgrade code” or “patch” or “feedback” carried by the One AND other than the rogue programs “hiding,” everything is the same. So the agents (including Smith) whose codelets are already written in the source code, birds, cats, people’s projections, everything will load up like every time…

What was different this time is probably for the first time Smith “smithed” everything---including the exiles, the rogues, and all plugged humans and agents… everything… Probably in doing so, Smith brought every rogue, every exile back into a “connection” (not necessarily with the SOURCE though, only that now there was a definite connection existing amongst all in the matrix, which probably previously was not there)…

Very interesting read.

at first i didnt get at what you ment and thought it was floundering in the puddle. Then piece3 kicked though and made a good yet informative read