»The reason why Matrix 3.x works for 99%«

I finally have a complete theory on this...

With the first two versions they completely failed. They feeded the program to the humans as the truth. It was forced upon the humans, but a little voice (the intuition) kept nagging about the hunch that there is something wrong with the world.

In the third version they simply offered the truth! When someone's intuition begins to nag about the world (the so called 'splinter in the mind'), the machines offer the truth about both worlds. How this would happen I don't know, but the best way would be in a dream or something.

Anyway, the story will be like this:
you either stay in this world you know, with the everyday comfort that you are used to or you go to the desert of the real where there is no nature and where there is no luxery and where you might even drown and suffer from pain when you leave your pod.

Most humans will choose for the easy life from that point on and their intuition will probably stop nagging, because (subconsiously) the human now knows the truth.

But the question that remains is why do the humans forget about the truth when they made their choice?

Well I think this goes automaticly on a subconsious level.

I will elaborate on this with an example:

Most of us enjoy meat very much. You must read meat as the Matrix.

Alot of us are also aware of the fact that some animals are treated very badly before they become our meat (read: used as batteries in a fake world). So some of us are thinking to become a vegaterian (a Zionite), but in the end we will not go through with this because we simply enjoy eating meat (the Matrix) too much. Now what happens with most people is that they suppress the image of animals being treated badly in order to justify the need that their ego has for the taste of meat. Only a minorty (1%?) truly starts off being a noble vegetarian (Zionite).

I understand, that meaty example was good engough for me to explain it

Mobil, that was a totally awesome post! I believe you really captured the spirit of what the Wachowski Brothers intended to illustrate, and that is the idea that even though humanity may be aware on some level of the realities of what’s going on, they’ll still deceive themselves into believing a lie because it’s more comfortable. Cypher is a great example of someone who went with the truth for a while, but then decided that the 99% had the right idea all along. Not wanting to deal with pain or suffering is a natural human tendency, and Matrix 3.0 takes full advantage of that. Now if they could just convince the rest of the 1% how great the Matrix is…

Wow, very awesome example! I agree with the meat metaphor, it IMO tells exactly why 99% of humans accept the Matrix, because like Cypher they enjoy the easy laid-back life instead of fighting for your life in the desert of the real.

You're very good at explaining things Mobil Ave Neo! Go man!

Yes great post, and the metaphor rocked, but i have a query, you said and i quote:

mobil_ave_neo wrote:

Only a minorty (1%?) truly starts off being a noble vegetarian (Zionite).

but what if someone who eats meat, still has these intuitions, but there still part of the system of eating meat,

After you know the truth, the intuition is satisfied, because you are now aware of what was bugging you before.

What you do with the truth is another thing: will you accept the truth or will you deny it because of your ego doesn't want it?

If you deny it, then the ego will make sure that the truth is being supressed deeply into your subconsious mind.

I think you mean this: people who made the choice of staying inside the Matrix and later on they still have doubts about their choice?

Then I think they still have the opportunity to deny the Matrix and make the choice again. Only choosing to not accept the Matrix is harmfull for the equation, which means there is no turning back: the damage to the equation will be permanently. So choosing to leave the Matrix can only be done once, choosing to stay inside the Matrix can be done more times because this choice doesn't do harm to the equation/program.

This doesn't include the situation in which Cypher wanted to go back. That's a whole other story, because I think he becomes an entire new variable, a 'new life' when he would have been put back inside the Matrix.

But I think the choice only occurs once, at a time when your 'intuition' is mature enough to know the truth. That's why it mostly happens to the young people who begin to question the meaning of life and the world around them.

Thank you mobil_ave, once again you have help me understand the question. . i think you should change you screen name and avatar to morpheus oh wise one

This really is a very good explanation. And a good example.

The only thing I do not understand about these discussions is why people always say that life inside the Matrix is easy. I belive the Matrix is just like our world (and not just one MegaCity). And of course there would be war, poverty, rape, murder, pain, suffering and everything we have in our world. And many people's lifes would be hard, on a day-by-day basis... just take a look to Afrika or Asia.

I think that most people in the Matrix just don't have time to think about their subliminal doubts. They are totaly busy with keeping theimselves and their children alive. So they would acept the Matrix just because they cannot afford the luxury of doubt and thinking. They wouldn't even notice. They do not feel they have any choice in their lifes. They just try to survive.

starcrow wrote:

The only thing I do not understand about these discussions is why people always say that life inside the Matrix is easy.

If you look at life inside the matrix, without the knowledge of the life outside of it, this is indeed a weird statement (life is easy). But you cannot not compare it to the life outside the matrix, and that is when most/some (choose what you like) people will say life inside is easier, or maybe they think the chance of an easy life will be bigger. And that's why they would choose to stay/go back inside the matrix.

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I think that most people in the Matrix just don't have time to think about their subliminal doubts. They are totaly busy with keeping theimselves and their children alive. So they would acept the Matrix just because they cannot afford the luxury of doubt and thinking. They wouldn't even notice. They do not feel they have any choice in their lifes. They just try to survive.

That's the whole think about people thinking about the meaning of life, it's what seperates us from other animals : we have the luxury to distance ourself from our instincts, our 'need' to survive.
The ability to pounder over the meaning of life etc, that is the luxury of human life.
And you have many levels 'poundering'. Like the material luxuries that rich people cannot live without, and that poor people don't even think about.

Clockwork wrote:

But you cannot not compare it to the life outside the matrix, and that is when most/some (choose what you like) people will say life inside is easier, or maybe they think the chance of an easy life will be bigger. And that's why they would choose to stay/go back inside the matrix.

Just visit some real-world slums or some civil war region in Africa. Think about the people starving soemwhere... many of them (especially the starving ones) would welcome _any_change. But I think they have no time thinking about their subliminal doubts. This is not important to them. They may not even feel that doubt at all as their lives are so much focused on sheer survival.

starcrow wrote:

The only thing I do not understand about these discussions is why people always say that life inside the Matrix is easy. I belive the Matrix is just like our world (and not just one MegaCity). And of course there would be war, poverty, rape, murder, pain, suffering and everything we have in our world. And many people's lifes would be hard, on a day-by-day basis... just take a look to Afrika or Asia.

True. But the Matrix can provide so much more to the mind: good food and the experience of nature, which is almost entirely wiped out in the desert of the real. And let us not forget family and friends! The choice is individual so they cannot take any or all of their friends and family with them.

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I think that most people in the Matrix just don't have time to think about their subliminal doubts. They are totaly busy with keeping theimselves and their children alive. So they would acept the Matrix just because they cannot afford the luxury of doubt and thinking. They wouldn't even notice. They do not feel they have any choice in their lifes. They just try to survive.

Very good point! That is what the Architect means with "...even when they are only aware of the choice on a near unconscious level". As I said before, we can never know how the system is presenting the choice to the participants. Our strongest guess is that it's connected to intuition and the eager to know the purpose of life. How stronger both factors are present with a particular human, the more aware of the choice the human is.

Of course there's always an exception to the generalization. The meat example was great i agree. But let's look at the exception to that rule - what if you're the indigenous native to a undeveloped area. You eat meat because it is the most readily available food source. You hunt when you NEED to and kill what you HAVE to. nothing more nothing less.
as with indigenous tribes, there is a reverence and thanks they give for being ALLOWED to take the animal and eat.
Are these folks choosing to ignore anything? OR embracing the necessity? Are they rationalizing an indulgence or living reality?

Applying to this to the Matrix Analogy. Perhaps some of those blue pills the truth is too much for them to handle? Perhaps the the ignorance is built within their genes as is with our current day Reality-based Redneck cretans? Perhaps the resistence to ackowledge the truth is because of the effectively real surroundings and the fantastical alternative. Remember - none of these humans have ever existed outside of synthetic goo - let alone been conscious. The deception isn't as hard as it seems - especially with such a direct link as the insertion of the plug into the brain.