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DrFunkenstien
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NEW! Sophia Stewart Case Dismissed
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I am starting to like this site
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Hey Folks,
It seems the Sophia Stewart case was dismissed!
slccglobelink.com...
I found this link from Google News. Apparently she was dismissed from court because she "had not been diligent either in pursuing or in responding to discovery...".
NOTE: You'll have to sign up with them to view any of their news articles.
I also got a screenshot of the news article -- if you want me to send it just post your email address.
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The Therion
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The link worked for me the 1st time i clicked it. Then it asked for registration in order to go to page of the article.
Anyway, I read some parts :
"The facts of the case were not heard at all in the proceedings that led to the dismissal. Rather, the court based its decision for dismissal on the fact that Stewart and her attorneys "had not been diligent either in pursuing or in responding to discovery. Despite the fact that the action had been on file for almost two years, she made no effort to propound any discovery to defendants until the fact discovery cut-off date set by the court. Nor did she respond in timely fashion to discovery propounded by defendants. This was consistent with the overall manner in which plaintiff has prosecuted the action, missing deadlines, seeking extensions, and generally ignoring the Federal Rules of Civil Procedures and court orders."
"Whether or not she could have substantiated her allegations that "The Third Eye" was in fact the original creative concept behind the multi-billion dollar group of films will probably never be known since Stewart's attorney's did not prove the allegations through the court process. "
The judge was a woman also (so please, lets dont hear about "sex racism" as well...i mean we've heard it all in here...)
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If the news are correct (i just say that cause i couldnt find them in yahoo yet), then the fact that Sophia was HOT about getting justice etc, going to court, going online, doing interviews, tapes, selling stuff etc, ...in relation with the fact that, where it MATTERED (in court), she (and her lawyers) couldnt/didnt show ANY of that determination and willpower....seems supsicious to me.
But i'll wait for some more news.
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allone
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Power Poster
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DrFunkenstien wrote: | I wonder what kind of a lawyer/attorney she would have been capable of hiring -- I doubt she has pockets of money.
If it had been a good one, they would have helped her prepare all of her evidence within the deadline and advised her not to spread the word so much in the local media. |
she apparently didnt have enough money to hire a good attorney, i seem to remember an article about her opening a bank account to accept donations to help her pay for her court costs/lawyer fees.
but then again, if she has this "rock hard evidence" that she kept saying she did, and she was due to receive as much money as she says ($2.5 BILLION), all she would have to do is speak with a good attorney, show him/her the evidence, tell the lawyer the amount she is wanting and they would probably take the case...i mean, think of how much the lawyers share in it would be...oh wait...with all that money, the lawyers would become greedy and corrupt:
July 1, 2005
"It seemz there are corrupt parties not only in Hell-y-wood, but in the judicial system. Because of this, Sophia has fired 2 of her lawyerz with the 3rd claiming to have withdrawn in the court system. Sophia is rallying for honest lawyerz to come to her aid who will not sell out on her. She stated in our phone interview, "...because with a 2.5 billion lawsuit, who can you trust but God?" She added, “every man for himself and God for us all.”"
(i also remember reading that she had johnny cochran...but he died)
but if you listen to her interview, she says that she doesnt even need proof...because employees at warner bors saw her script on the set of the movie...she also said that she is a prophet from god and he told her that she would win this case...hmm...i guess since god told her she would win, she thought that she didnt need to gather any evidence or get her paperwork or whatever in order in the six years that she waited on this to go to trial....i dont know, just a thought.
anyway, she has a lot of money to pay back now, her lawyers fees, court costs, and the defendants court costs and lawyers fees...that is, if the source is reliable, that is the same website that reported that she had already won the case a while back.
oh well, maybe she will still release her book and we can read it for ourselves to see if there are any more similarities besides "one" and black clothes. but at $100 a copy...i wont be buying one anytime soon (ever)...perhaps its so expensive so that she can pay all that money that she owes?
anyway, so, whos buying the first copy?
...but on second thought...maybe the judge and jury were paid off also!
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The Therion
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Quote: | | but then again, if she has this "rock hard evidence" that she kept saying she did, and she was due to receive as much money as she says ($2.5 BILLION), all she would have to do is speak with a good attorney, show him/her the evidence, tell the lawyer the amount she is wanting and they would probably take the case...i mean, think of how much the lawyers share in it would be. | Exactly.
All this stinks. I mean , if the judge and court was paid off, we wouldnt be hearing that Sophia DIDNT SHOW THE EVIDENCE SHE PROMISED IN THAT DEADLINE ! We would here something like : the court EXAMINED the evidence and found it incoclusive. Something like that.
But to hear that the evidence couldnt even be gathered....very suspicious. Several YEARS have passed. It dint start a few months ago...
I hadnt been on the gheto-thingy website. I went today. And what i saw ....i didnt like.
For a person who preaches god all the time, and wants to fight injustice, she goes a long way into selling stuff, i can tell you that ! And dont tell me that its for gathering money to pay the lawyers. If she has evidence so strong that the case will be won for sure, then the lawyers would kill each other to get ON the case. Not OUT of it ! So if i had unbeatable evidence, i would sell NOTHING. Right now, the website just looks like "people trying to sell stuff and get cash off of a famous movie". Sorry.
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El Escogido
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I am one of the fundaments of this forum
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I have to agree with a lot of the things that are being said. I think Therion brings up a couple of good points: 1) Why would lawyers leave the case if the evidence was so solid? Sounds like guaranteed money. 2) She has had about 6 years to gather all of her evidence and anything relavant to the case, and this couldn't get done on time.
I mean if she really was the creator or the inspiration for the trilogy then it's really sad but if not then oh well.
allone wrote: |
she apparently didnt have enough money to hire a good attorney, i seem to remember an article about her opening a bank account to accept donations to help her pay for her court costs/lawyer fees.
but then again, if she has this "rock hard evidence" that she kept saying she did, and she was due to receive as much money as she says ($2.5 BILLION), all she would have to do is speak with a good attorney, show him/her the evidence, tell the lawyer the amount she is wanting and they would probably take the case...i mean, think of how much the lawyers share in it would be...oh wait...with all that money, the lawyers would become greedy and corrupt:
but if you listen to her interview, she says that she doesnt even need proof...because employees at warner bors saw her script on the set of the movie...she also said that she is a prophet from god and he told her that she would win this case...hmm...i guess since god told her she would win, she thought that she didnt need to gather any evidence or get her paperwork or whatever in order in the six years that she waited on this to go to trial....i dont know, just a thought.
anyway, she has a lot of money to pay back now, her lawyers fees, court costs, and the defendants court costs and lawyers fees...that is, if the source is reliable, that is the same website that reported that she had already won the case a while back.
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I mean, these are real good points. It's crazy, but sometimes things happen for a reason, good or bad.
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DrFunkenstien
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Back again?....
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I am starting to like this site
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Location: Sydney, Australia
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God I am so fucking sick and tired of this case's inability to resolve itself.
Look! It's right back in court! ... Or is it? Who knows for sure?
prleap.com...
Holy shit! just don't lie to the public, that would add an additional layer of complexity to the whole thing. Stop fucking up Google News with all this bullshit! Please!
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Paladin
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Re: Back again?....
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More posts than most others
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DrFunkenstien wrote: | God I am so fucking sick and tired of this case's inability to resolve itself.
Look! It's right back in court! ... Or is it? Who knows for sure?
prleap.com...
Holy shit! just don't lie to the public, that would add an additional layer of complexity to the whole thing. Stop fucking up Google News with all this bullshit! Please! |
Hey, bro, i agree with you. But as I posted above, the last thing the Wacky Bros. and the rest of the industry wants is to make this simple and clear cut. I had a feeling that Stewart was going to run into a problem with her legal team because Hollywood is going to try every sleazy trick in their deranged playbook of cheating, raping artists, theft, plagiarism, fascism, communism, pedophilia, and Christophobic behavior.
There's no doubt that this case "crosses clearly into allegations of violating the federal RICO Act (Racketeer Influenced and Corrupt Organizations)".
If the F.B.I. gets into this, they will uncover one the biggest scams in the history of Hollywood. Only surpassed by the communist infiltration of the industry.
You have to keep in mind that we are dealing with a community of the biggest scumbags this side of the Atlantic. They are vermin of epic proportions and should be beaten in the only way they understand: take away all their profits.
It would be a great injustice if the Feds turned a blind-eye to this case and didn't pursue the culprits in this sleazy affair that has so far screwed over one innocent Black woman.
I demand, and I hope other fair-minded people do as well, a full Federal investigation of the matter and that indictments be handed down as soon as the facts are bourne out.
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holy_of_holies
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Re: Back again?....
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I am starting to like this site
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Paladin wrote: |
I demand, and I hope other fair-minded people do as well, a full Federal investigation of the matter and that indictments be handed down as soon as the facts are bourne out. | '
You demand? Who are you, a federal prosecutor? Even if the ideas for the movies had been stolen, no one, including the Stewart cult, has presented any evidence to the public that this case falls under RICO...and Funkenstein, the site you link to is for a PR firm, i.e. a company that distributes press releases, not an independent media outlet...how I laughed when I read it though...Stewart bombed her own case by not cooperating with the court, and now she is blaming her lawyers!
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Paladin
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Re: Back again?....
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[quote="holy_of_holies"] Paladin wrote: |
You demand? Who are you, a federal prosecutor? Even if the ideas for the movies had been stolen, no one, including the Stewart cult, has presented any evidence to the public that this case falls under RICO...and Funkenstein, the site you link to is for a PR firm, i.e. a company that distributes press releases, not an independent media outlet...how I laughed when I read it though...Stewart bombed her own case by not cooperating with the court, and now she is blaming her lawyers! |
No, I'm a citizen of the U.S. and as such have a right to demand of my govt. to proceed on an investigation. That's one of my rights as an American. Besides, the Feds already seem to be investigating anyway.
Also, you don't seem to understand how the legal system works. When you hire an attorney to pursue a case, the attorney is responsible for making sure that certain timelines established by the court are met. When they are not met, it is the explicit fault of the attorney unless the attorney informs the court that the client is not cooperating. So, it's entirely the fault of Stewart's attorney not Stewart because the attorney never made such a declaration to the court.
Maybe it's time you did a little bit of legal homework before you make incorrect statements in the future.
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holy_of_holies
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Re: Back again?....
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I am starting to like this site
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Paladin wrote: |
No, I'm a citizen of the U.S. and as such have a right to demand of my govt. to proceed on an investigation. That's one of my rights as an American. Besides, the Feds already seem to be investigating anyway. |
You have a right to demand nothing! Where in the Constitution (the enumeration of your rights) does it say that you as a private citizen have a right to demand a federal investigation? And where is your evidence that the "Feds" are
engaged in any such investigation related to this matter anymore?
Paladin wrote: |
Also, you don't seem to understand how the legal system works. When you hire an attorney to pursue a case, the attorney is responsible for making sure that certain timelines established by the court are met. When they are not met, it is the explicit fault of the attorney unless the attorney informs the court that the client is not cooperating. So, it's entirely the fault of Stewart's attorney not Stewart because the attorney never made such a declaration to the court.
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No, you are wrong. You are thinking as if Stewart were a defendant in a criminal case; in fact she is a plaintiff in a civil case...Stewart's attorney has no such obligation to inform the court of anything! Stewart and her attorneys have only to comply with the indicated legal procedures - if they don't, their case will be thrown out. Since when does she have to "cooperate" in a case she herself has brought? In fact, if a plaintiff's attorney made such a declaration (that the client is uncooperative somehow), it would be a violation of attorney/client privelege. Paladin wrote: |
Maybe it's time you did a little bit of legal homework before you make incorrect statements in the future. |
Right back atcha!
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SPDTE
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Any new updates?
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Bleeding newbie poster
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something is missing on the 13th floor.
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Paladin
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More posts than most others
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Quote: | | You have a right to demand nothing! Where in the Constitution (the enumeration of your rights) does it say that you as a private citizen have a right to demand a federal investigation? And where is your evidence that the "Feds" are engaged in any such investigation related to this matter anymore? |
You know, I started to laugh until I realized you were serious. Dude, forget about looking in the Constitution. Have you ever heard of U.S. Statutes? There are laws that go beyond the Constitution, including State and local laws. Please tell me you knew that. Anyway, yes, as a citizen, I have a right to demand an investigation. That does not mean that the F.B.I. has to undertake an investigation. Tell me you actually knew that because if you didn't, let me be the first to welcome you to the United States. Enjoy your stay.
As for the Fed involvement, check out:
Do me a favor and actually read the article so I don't have to explain that to you as well.
Quote: | | No, you are wrong. You are thinking as if Stewart were a defendant in a criminal case; in fact she is a plaintiff in a civil case...Stewart's attorney has no such obligation to inform the court of anything! Stewart and her attorneys have only to comply with the indicated legal procedures - if they don't, their case will be thrown out. Since when does she have to "cooperate" in a case she herself has brought? In fact, if a plaintiff's attorney made such a declaration (that the client is uncooperative somehow), it would be a violation of attorney/client privelege. |
Wrong again. When an attorney takes on a case, the agreement with his client is to take certain actions as requested by the court. If the attorney fails to file appropriate motions and present discovery when in fact the client has done as prescribed by the attorney/client agreement, then it is the fault of the attorney and, that attorney can be liable for damages.
I bet you knew that as well but are merely joking with me. Right?
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holy_of_holies
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Duh
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I am starting to like this site
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Paladin wrote: |
You know, I started to laugh until I realized you were serious. Dude, forget about looking in the Constitution. Have you ever heard of U.S. Statutes? There are laws that go beyond the Constitution, including State and local laws. Please tell me you knew that. Anyway, yes, as a citizen, I have a right to demand an investigation. That does not mean that the F.B.I. has to undertake an investigation. |
Demand away! Nothing's going to happen! I assumed you meant that you could actually cause an investigation to happen. If I demand that the admin of this site ban you because I disagree with you, I look like a fool because knn is not going to ban someone for that reason. Well, take that foolishness and quintuple it, put it in the mouth of a Sophia Stewart cultist, and you get Paladin's "demand" for an investigation. It doesn't mean anything except that you have demanded something! Paladin wrote: |
As for the Fed involvement, check out:
Do me a favor and actually read the article so I don't have to explain that to you as well. |
I read it before and it's not an article it's a press release.
Why don't you verify your sources before you cite them?
The site states the following disclaimer right next to the "article" in question:
Quote: | About This Release
If you have any questions regarding information in these press releases please contact the organization listed in the press release. Issuers of press releases and not PR Leap are solely responsible for the accuracy of the content. |
You seem to be unaware of the meaning of these sentences. Anyone who wants to can pay this site to post their announcements, regardless of their content. Therefore I have no more reason to trust this site than I do to help you in your "demand" for a federal investigation!
Paladin wrote: | When an attorney takes on a case, the agreement with his client is to take certain actions as requested by the court. If the attorney fails to file appropriate motions and present discovery when in fact the client has done as prescribed by the attorney/client agreement, then it is the fault of the attorney and, that attorney can be liable for damages.
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But who is to say that these attorneys did what you suppose they did? You? If the attorneys killed somebody during the trial, they can go to jail; however there is no evidence to support such a charge. Stewart's charge that her attorneys have violated the terms of their agreement is similarly unsupported. Except by you! Just because your cult leader Sophia Stewart insists in her demented mind that these lawyers have mishandled her case doesn't mean I have to think there's a lick of truth to it. And the burden of proof is on her to support the charge of legal malpractice, not on me or anyone else to defend these lawyers.
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Paladin
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More posts than most others
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holy_of_holies, do you realize that you actually didn't say one thing of any relevance in your last post? I mean, seriously, why quote something and then not have anything to say? Besides, I did once contact the FBI and asked that they investigate a matter (something I won't get into here) and based upon my request, they started an investigation and with my testimony, put the scam artist in jail. So, there you go. A demand from a citizen does get action.
As for the press release, who cares? It's still news and the fact that an FBI investigation is going on with regard to this matter makes it a relevant issue. There are a number of sources on the internet that talk about this case. Here's one: And this one is the online encyclopedia, "Wikipedia":
And, since Stewart hired lawyers to take care of this matter, the first question is, why didn't the lawyers do their work? If Stewart didn't provide the lawyers with the documents, that's one thing but at this point we have to ask why the lawyers didn't do their job?
Lastly, just because I'm willing to keep an open mind to Stewart's charges, doesn't mean that she's a cult leader. But since you're willing to defend the scumbags in Hollywood who are noted for stealing ideas and stories, it must mean that you support this kind of psychotic behavior. Have you no shame? At long last, have you no shame?
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