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Hmm.. I Would Have Loved To Seen The Outcome Of That Case.. And I Want To See The Unedited Version Of The Matrix Which Is A 2hr 40min Long Movie..


And how do you know such a version exists?


she says it her self

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From the inner-view she said when she first saw the movie back in '99, she witnessed blatant theft and plagiarizm from her script, 'The Third Eye' written and copywritten back in 1983. Soon after, she contacted the Pirates informing them she was aware of the theft and a demand for credit and compensation for what soon became the most successfull movie franchise to date. Not too long after, Warner Bros. allegedly began released versionz of The Matrix edited from the 2 hour and 40 minute original.

My source has informed me Sophia is aggressively on the hunt for that original copy. I'm positive that version is out there somewhere. Some Matrix fan got a bootleg copy from a street vendor somewhere in the world; after all, there are Matrix fanz the world-over!

Apparently, there are various scenes that are different from the later released version(s) which will enable you to know you have the original release:

* In the beginning of the movie, there's an intro that scrolls up the screen just like in the movie Star Wars that layz out the plot. It speaks of a nuclear war that happened in the year 2110AD, where humanz were now used as fuel for the machines like batteries
* In the part where Neo barters for a stack of programz for programz of his. No money was exchanged like in the edited release(s)
* The girl in the beginning who came over Neo's had a rabbit on her arm. In the edited version(s), she's seen with the rabbit on her back shoulder blade



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Did it ever occur to you that it is strange that she is the only one who ever said to have seen that version? And that given the story that the story is 'stolen' from her, that she would be able to see that special version, but yet again, no-one else could ? Or is her response to that : 'they showed it to me because they knew it was stolen, and afterwards, they changed it so it doesn't resemble my concepts, so that I can't go to court' ?

Basicly, if, and I say if, there exist such a version as she claims there is, why on earth would she (be the only one to) have seen it ?

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Basicly, if, and I say if, there exist such a version as she claims there is, why on earth would she (be the only one to) have seen it ?


exactly, i mean, think about this...did she see it the day it was released? im sure that there were other people in the theater...why hasnt she asked the theater she saw it in where that version went, what happened with it, anything at all?...or maybe she has and either 1. they were paid off by hollywood to keep quiet (what she and all her supporter"z" would say) or 2. they would look at her like she is insane, then she would go on and on and threaten to sue them too for being part of the conspiracy and cover up and racketeering and all that other crap...

but if she did not see it on opening day (which is what im thinking) then there has to be a ton of people who saw the "original" version, because as she says...they didnt recall it and replace it until after she contacted them...right? (how long would that take?) but guess what? i saw it on opening day, back in 99...to a packed theater, and there was no star wars intro, there was no rabbit on the womans arm, there was money exchanged for programs...maybe just that one theater that she saw it in had that version...

the reason that i do not think that she saw it on opening day is because...she claims to be a sci-fi fan and all, but she never in her life had seen or heard anything about the terminator series until after the matrix...now, for being a big sci-fi fan, and being such an acclaimed author of prestigious sci-fi pieces, and being such a highly educated person in the areas of film production and literature...i mean...why would you not have seen one of the largest grossing sci-fi movies of all time? but instead rush to see the matrix on opening day...?

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Didn't I read that the studio that released Matrix was actually in negotiations with her but they couldn't come to an agreement on it and so it ended up in court?

Also, it seems as though she was really interested in seeing the studio people go to jail rather than make money so they ended up opposing her.

Again, I don't know how valid any of this is but I'm still really interested in finding out more about the FBI investigation.

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O.K someone said that the matrix was based off the third eye right?
This is what I don’t get I heard that the people who made the matrix or ripped it off used Sophia’s actual script and someone else said in the special features of the matrix you can see them using her script.
Then they knew Sophia would found out so they took out a full 30 minutes.
That makes sense but then why is the third eye so different. I have heard people say it was different and worst.
So did they based the matrix on her script and then change there script because it sounded to much like hers. I don’t get it could someone please explain.
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Basicly, if, and I say if, there exist such a version as she claims there is, why on earth would she (be the only one to) have seen it ?


exactly, i mean, think about this...did she see it the day it was released? im sure that there were other people in the theater...why hasnt she asked the theater she saw it in where that version went, what happened with it, anything at all?...or maybe she has and either 1. they were paid off by hollywood to keep quiet (what she and all her supporter"z" would say) or 2. they would look at her like she is insane, then she would go on and on and threaten to sue them too for being part of the conspiracy and cover up and racketeering and all that other crap...

but if she did not see it on opening day (which is what im thinking) then there has to be a ton of people who saw the "original" version, because as she says...they didnt recall it and replace it until after she contacted them...right? (how long would that take?) but guess what? i saw it on opening day, back in 99...to a packed theater, and there was no star wars intro, there was no rabbit on the womans arm, there was money exchanged for programs...maybe just that one theater that she saw it in had that version...

the reason that i do not think that she saw it on opening day is because...she claims to be a sci-fi fan and all, but she never in her life had seen or heard anything about the terminator series until after the matrix...now, for being a big sci-fi fan, and being such an acclaimed author of prestigious sci-fi pieces, and being such a highly educated person in the areas of film production and literature...i mean...why would you not have seen one of the largest grossing sci-fi movies of all time? but instead rush to see the matrix on opening day...?



i dont think thats what shes sayin

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I think she is saying that she is really a lemonade panther who has gotten lost, and now no one can save her but her friend, the laser sea otter Mark who by mistake made Mooga, the champion kung fu donkey, a little mad when he called Moogas friend the blind hamster Milkshake Bob, a loser. And now everything is messed up, so what has to happen is this, there has to be a party in Happy the blueberry seals apartment, everyone has to get really drunk, beat each other up, play cards, take off their socks and climb through the heavenly roof and then everything will be ok. I think that is what she is saying.

Now doesen't that sound just as credible as her being the creator of the Matrix and the Terminator.

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that sounds great...i'm a film producer...send the details of that story to me...then i'll make something completely different...then you can sue me cause i read it...deal?

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~_A Splinter In Your Mind wrote:

i dont think thats what shes sayin


thats was what i am saying...things to think about.

(although some of the things that were in my last post were things that she or her supporters have said: about being better educated, a big sci-fi fan and so on...)

anyway, i just wanted to say...i just read this:

asp.african-institute.org...

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Stewart told me that the judge is going to hear the motion on Sept 26, 2005
at 10 am and Sophia will have the boot-leg copy of the "Matrix" movie to
show the court and the media how the defendants defrauded the world into
believing their lies! Stewart will also hold a brief meeting at the court
that morning at 8.am.


i also read a while back that she is offering a $1,000,000.00 bounty to anyone who can provide her with the "original"/bootleg copy of the matrix with the "missing" scenes in it...

just another thought but...how easy would it be for someone with some experience to say...i dont know, add a scrolling text/star wars like intro to the matrix, and also maybe...erase the rabbit off the girls shoulder and put it on her arm...among other things, then burn it onto a DVD? especially if you had some time to work on it...

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that sounds great...i'm a film producer...send the details of that story to me...then i'll make something completely different...then you can sue me cause i read it...deal?


SHH! dont tell them that you are a producer! tell them that you are simply a comic book author looking for some ideas, they wont suspect a thing!

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I would like to see you guys stop focusing on making fun of Stewart and instead address the issue of the FBI investigation.

There must be something to this if they are spending time looking into this matter.

Thoughts?

Also, if Stewart thinks she's going to find someone who saw the unedited version of the Matrix, she's dreaming. The version she wants was only shown to a limited audience as part of a test screening. Only a handful of people saw it and no one would have been able to make a copy of it. Plus, these people would have been forced to sign a non-disclosure agreement so that would further complicate the matter.

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I'm not so sure that noone would have been able to copy a screening of a film. It happens several times on other movies.

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Each day I became more and more convinced that W. Bro is messing with our heads. Maybe what the others said were right. Sophia really didn’t write matrix W. Bro wants to say it. Why? Because the third eye is a real soon to be released and Sophia is being paid to make it popular even before it is advised. Well maybe. Hey Anomaly can I sue you to? Please!

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I'm not so sure that noone would have been able to copy a screening of a film. It happens several times on other movies.


If the security surrounding the film was as intense as has been suggested, I'm not sure anyone could have made a bootleg of the screening.

I'm surprised no one is addressing the FBI investigation. Doesn't anyone have any thoughts about it?

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Can anybody give a link to some proof that the FBI has been involved?

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If the security surrounding the film was as intense as has been suggested, I'm not sure anyone could have made a bootleg of the screening.
Security has been tight in many other films as well. Still we saw bootlegs out. We cant be sure.

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If the security surrounding the film was as intense as has been suggested, I'm not sure anyone could have made a bootleg of the screening.
Security has been tight in many other films as well. Still we saw bootlegs out. We cant be sure.


I think the best thing to do is assume that this version actually existed and then make a fake copy and give it to Stewart in exchange for $1 million. How else are we going to be compensated for wasting all our time in this forum? :p

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I have an early pre-DVD DivX enconded AVI version where the rabbit is displayed on the left shoulder, and not on the arm.... but as for the other two claims, they don't comply.

I'm not even sure if it's different from anything else, I just checked it now, and happened to notice.

I received this copy about 6 months before the movie was released in Sweden, and I'm not sure how that compares to the original US release date. I think (but I'm not sure), I actually had it before it was released in the theathres period. Regardless, since it was before the DVD was launched, the source must have been from some insider that had access to the film. The ripper has tagged this version with a floating Z, that shows up every now and then, and slides along the side while the movie is playing.

BTW, I took some screenshots and sent them to Stewart. Let's see how she responds. I'll keep you updated.

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* The girl in the beginning who came over Neo's had a rabbit on her arm. In the edited version(s), she's seen with the rabbit on her back shoulder blade

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Well done.

If your copy is real then this goes to support one aspect of Stewart's claim. It's getting interesting. Thumbup

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I heard Sophia is trying to sue another movie called "Pitch black" Has anyone heard about this or was it just a rumour?

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don't know if that's true, but I blieve pitch black is in the chronicles of Riddick series, I think animanted but not sure. Anyways, she seems to think she has a monopoly on sci fi, except for I, Robot since it's title comes from a book with a known author.

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don't know if that's true, but I blieve pitch black is in the chronicles of Riddick series, I think animanted but not sure. Anyways, she seems to think she has a monopoly on sci fi, except for I, Robot since it's title comes from a book with a known author.


No, just the ones that were stolen from her by the Wacky Bros. and James Cameron.

Cameron himself is a known thief because he stole most of the script for "Titanic" from the film, "A night to remember".

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Cameron himself is a known thief because he stole most of the script for "Titanic" from the film, "A night to remember".


also,dont forget, that his script for the terminator was from stories/scripts written by Harlan Ellison...

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Cameron himself is a known thief because he stole most of the script for "Titanic" from the film, "A night to remember".


& James Cameron is a director, not a writer. If she can't tell the difference, I wouldn't admit it in public if I were her.

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